Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black vultures

[anneb . clark]

I know where the farm stand is. Within walking distance. Will check it out. AnneSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2024, at 10:33 AM, t...@ottcmail.com wrote:

  

  
  
Could be these are bonded birds hanging out together but actual
courtship seems to be more active and to involve display, or at
least the male lifting & holding his wings over his head - see Birds
  by Bent.  (Note that the months given in that account might
not apply now - at the time it was written, Black Vultures were only
in the south, plus and it was colder everywhere in February and
March than it is now.)

On 3/7/2024 10:20 AM, Dave Nutter
  wrote:


  
  I just spent a little over an hour watching a pair of Black
  Vultures atop the concrete smokestack low on South Hill in the
  City of Ithaca. That’s at the old Morse Chain / Emerson Power
  Transmission factory. I can scope it from my house, and it’s
  probably visible from numerous locations around the City. I use
  the term “pair” intentionally, because they seemed very
  comfortable and friendly with each other, each almost touching the
  other with its bill on several occasions, although most of the
  time there was very little happening. I don’t know what
  constitutes courtship among Black Vultures, but this seemed to be
  more than the coincidental convenience of a place to rest. When
  they took flight, they flew together, mostly staying within the
  same scope view. Unlike last fall when I often saw Black Vultures
  fly well above downtown on their way NE toward trees in
  Collegetown, today they glided N, descending slowly, in front of
  the taller buildings near the Commons (i.e. lower than them) and
  down toward treetop level. When I lost view of them due to closer
  obstructions, they were due E of me, which is the latitude of
  Cascadilla St & Farm St. I don’t know whether there is some
  food source or nest site in the N half of downtown Ithaca, but
  that would be my guess, unless they have some other destination
  and it’s worth flying so low just to avoid fighting today’s 10mph
  NW wind. Anyway, for those interested in where the Black Vultures
  nest this year, I think we have a pair in the City of Ithaca, it
  wouldn’t surprise me if they nest here, and it wouldn’t surprise
  me if their courtship is carried out on top of that smokestack. 
  
  - - Dave Nutter
  
On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:53 AM, Dave Nutter 
wrote:

  
  

  
  
  

The barn is between Freeville & McLean, more
specifically along the SE side of Fall Creek Rd between Red
Mill Rd & Malloryville Rd. Google maps shows a building
complex associated with a closed farm stand. Below is the
eBird rare bird report which I saved. The record doesn’t
show up in the eBird database if you search Black Vulture,
but I am still able to access it from this link, so it
hasn’t been deleted, revised, or hidden, I guess just not
confirmed. 


  
Black Vulture (Coragyps atratus) (2)
- Reported Feb 16, 2024 11:34 by Paul Rodewald
- 340–350 Fall Creek Rd, Freeville US-NY
(42.5289,-76.3158), Tompkins, New York
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.528927,-76.315839=42.528927,-76.315839
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S162563609
- Comments: "Two BLVUs flying from barn at this
location.  Seems early for northern limit of
breeding range, but appeared to be inspecting a
potential or prior nest location."
  
  

- - Dave Nutter

  On Mar 5, 2024, at 10:53 PM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  


  

Seems to me unlikely that many black vultures are
nesting north of us. We should see more incl juveniles
in fall.  Maybe I haven’t been on top of the
observations, but doesn’t match my memory. So migrating
through

  
  
  Where’s this barn?  Near McLean  or Lime Hollow?
 
  
  
  I will say that I haven’t seen them overhead here
just outside of Freeville but I am completely
capable of missing birds, even big black ones I
should be noticing. 
  
  
  Anne
 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bluebirds

[anneb . clark]

On Tuesday, our bluebirds were also checking boxes. But the family ( pair and 3 
juveniles, maybe an extra) have been with us all winter. Foraging in curious 
ways down in the field that has now been unmowed for three years. That standing 
vegetation seems to offer more to more species in winter than I ever 
considered. 

Anne
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[cayugabirds-l] FOY Eastern Meadowlark

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I visited the grasslands this afternoon at the Finger Lakes National Forest
in hopes of getting at least 1 new “FOY” species, and as soon as I started
walking into the field, I heard that sweet meadowlark song! I enjoyed
watching him fly around landing in the grass, and fluttering to treetops
for about an hour. At one point I thought I heard a response song, but it
was a group of starlings!

I was in the field just at the crest of Searsburg Rd, on the right heading
west. There’s a gate into the field where Interloken Trail crosses.

Also heard many Robins singing, a pair of bluebirds canoodling, and even a
Raven carrying sticks.

Another “FOY” was finding an Eastern Spotted Newt in our Pond.

Such a beautiful afternoon!

Searsburg, Tburg

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[cayugabirds-l] Bluebirds

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First of year bluebirds spotted at Caroline Elementary and seemed interested in 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black vultures

[tess]

Could be these are bonded birds hanging out together but actual 
courtship seems to be more active and to involve display, or at least 
the male lifting & holding his wings over his head - see Birds by Bent 
.  (Note that 
the months given in that account might not apply now - at the time it 
was written, Black Vultures were only in the south, plus and it was 
colder everywhere in February and March than it is now.)

On 3/7/2024 10:20 AM, Dave Nutter wrote:
> I just spent a little over an hour watching a pair of Black Vultures 
> atop the concrete smokestack low on South Hill in the City of Ithaca. 
> That’s at the old Morse Chain / Emerson Power Transmission factory. I 
> can scope it from my house, and it’s probably visible from numerous 
> locations around the City. I use the term “pair” intentionally, 
> because they seemed very comfortable and friendly with each other, 
> each almost touching the other with its bill on several occasions, 
> although most of the time there was very little happening. I don’t 
> know what constitutes courtship among Black Vultures, but this seemed 
> to be more than the coincidental convenience of a place to rest. When 
> they took flight, they flew together, mostly staying within the same 
> scope view. Unlike last fall when I often saw Black Vultures fly well 
> above downtown on their way NE toward trees in Collegetown, today they 
> glided N, descending slowly, in front of the taller buildings near the 
> Commons (i.e. lower than them) and down toward treetop level. When I 
> lost view of them due to closer obstructions, they were due E of me, 
> which is the latitude of Cascadilla St & Farm St. I don’t know whether 
> there is some food source or nest site in the N half of downtown 
> Ithaca, but that would be my guess, unless they have some other 
> destination and it’s worth flying so low just to avoid fighting 
> today’s 10mph NW wind. Anyway, for those interested in where the Black 
> Vultures nest this year, I think we have a pair in the City of Ithaca, 
> it wouldn’t surprise me if they nest here, and it wouldn’t surprise me 
> if their courtship is carried out on top of that smokestack.
>
> - - Dave Nutter
>
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:53 AM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>
>> The barn is between Freeville & McLean, more specifically along the 
>> SE side of Fall Creek Rd between Red Mill Rd & Malloryville Rd. 
>> Google maps shows a building complex associated with a closed farm 
>> stand. Below is the eBird rare bird report which I saved. The record 
>> doesn’t show up in the eBird database if you search Black Vulture, 
>> but I am still able to access it from this link, so it hasn’t been 
>> deleted, revised, or hidden, I guess just not confirmed.
>>
>>>
>>> Black Vulture (Coragyps atratus) (2)
>>> - Reported Feb 16, 2024 11:34 by Paul Rodewald
>>> - 340–350 Fall Creek Rd, Freeville US-NY (42.5289,-76.3158), 
>>> Tompkins, New York
>>> - Map: 
>>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.528927,-76.315839=42.528927,-76.315839
>>>  
>>> 
>>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S162563609
>>> - Comments: "Two BLVUs flying from barn at this location.  Seems 
>>> early for northern limit of breeding range, but appeared to be 
>>> inspecting a potential or prior nest location."
>>>
>> - - Dave Nutter
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2024, at 10:53 PM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Seems to me unlikely that many black vultures are nesting north of 
>>> us. We should see more incl juveniles in fall.  Maybe I haven’t been 
>>> on top of the observations, but doesn’t match my memory. So 
>>> migrating through
>>>
>>> Where’s this barn?  Near McLean  or Lime Hollow?
>>>
>>> I will say that I haven’t seen them overhead here just outside of 
>>> Freeville but I am completely capable of missing birds, even big 
>>> black ones I should be noticing. 
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Mar 5, 2024, at 12:14 AM, Dave Nutter  wrote:

  Paul Rodewald said a pair of Black Vultures seemed to be 
 prospecting a barn recently between Freeville & Cortland.

 Last year the number of sightings over downtown Ithaca & lower S 
 Hill, & near Titus Flats/ Wegmans/ the Elmira Rd strip seemed like 
 some affinity - maybe nesting nearby? Or is it just that there are 
 lots of potential observers, and they are conspicuous so they get 
 reported more here even though they travel widely? Anyway it seems 
 to be continuing. Is there a food source for them in the 
 neighborhood? Or did they nest here?

 I wonder how many pairs we are dealing with, how many birds are 
 local, and how many of the birds seen recently have been migrating 
 through.

 - - Dave Nutter

 On Mar 4, 2024, at 5:07 PM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

> Let’s try to figure out where they nest this 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black vultures

[Dave Nutter]

I just spent a little over an hour watching a pair of Black Vultures atop the 
concrete smokestack low on South Hill in the City of Ithaca. That’s at the old 
Morse Chain / Emerson Power Transmission factory. I can scope it from my house, 
and it’s probably visible from numerous locations around the City. I use the 
term “pair” intentionally, because they seemed very comfortable and friendly 
with each other, each almost touching the other with its bill on several 
occasions, although most of the time there was very little happening. I don’t 
know what constitutes courtship among Black Vultures, but this seemed to be 
more than the coincidental convenience of a place to rest. When they took 
flight, they flew together, mostly staying within the same scope view. Unlike 
last fall when I often saw Black Vultures fly well above downtown on their way 
NE toward trees in Collegetown, today they glided N, descending slowly, in 
front of the taller buildings near the Commons (i.e. lower than them) and down 
toward treetop level. When I lost view of them due to closer obstructions, they 
were due E of me, which is the latitude of Cascadilla St & Farm St. I don’t 
know whether there is some food source or nest site in the N half of downtown 
Ithaca, but that would be my guess, unless they have some other destination and 
it’s worth flying so low just to avoid fighting today’s 10mph NW wind. Anyway, 
for those interested in where the Black Vultures nest this year, I think we 
have a pair in the City of Ithaca, it wouldn’t surprise me if they nest here, 
and it wouldn’t surprise me if their courtship is carried out on top of that 
smokestack. 

- - Dave Nutter

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:53 AM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
> 
> The barn is between Freeville & McLean, more specifically along the SE side 
> of Fall Creek Rd between Red Mill Rd & Malloryville Rd. Google maps shows a 
> building complex associated with a closed farm stand. Below is the eBird rare 
> bird report which I saved. The record doesn’t show up in the eBird database 
> if you search Black Vulture, but I am still able to access it from this link, 
> so it hasn’t been deleted, revised, or hidden, I guess just not confirmed. 
> 
>> 
>> Black Vulture (Coragyps atratus) (2)
>> - Reported Feb 16, 2024 11:34 by Paul Rodewald
>> - 340–350 Fall Creek Rd, Freeville US-NY (42.5289,-76.3158), Tompkins, New 
>> York
>> - Map: 
>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.528927,-76.315839=42.528927,-76.315839
>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S162563609
>> - Comments: "Two BLVUs flying from barn at this location.  Seems early for 
>> northern limit of breeding range, but appeared to be inspecting a potential 
>> or prior nest location."
>> 
> - - Dave Nutter
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2024, at 10:53 PM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Seems to me unlikely that many black vultures are nesting north of us. We 
>> should see more incl juveniles in fall.  Maybe I haven’t been on top of the 
>> observations, but doesn’t match my memory. So migrating through
>> 
>> Where’s this barn?  Near McLean  or Lime Hollow?  
>> 
>> I will say that I haven’t seen them overhead here just outside of Freeville 
>> but I am completely capable of missing birds, even big black ones I should 
>> be noticing. 
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2024, at 12:14 AM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Paul Rodewald said a pair of Black Vultures seemed to be prospecting a 
>>> barn recently between Freeville & Cortland. 
>>> 
>>> Last year the number of sightings over downtown Ithaca & lower S Hill, & 
>>> near Titus Flats/ Wegmans/ the Elmira Rd strip seemed like some affinity - 
>>> maybe nesting nearby? Or is it just that there are lots of potential 
>>> observers, and they are conspicuous so they get reported more here even 
>>> though they travel widely? Anyway it seems to be continuing. Is there a 
>>> food source for them in the neighborhood? Or did they nest here?
>>> 
>>> I wonder how many pairs we are dealing with, how many birds are local, and 
>>> how many of the birds seen recently have been migrating through.
>>> 
>>> - - Dave Nutter
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2024, at 5:07 PM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Let’s try to figure out where they nest this year!!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 4, 2024, at 12:04 PM, Laura Stenzler  wrote:
> 
> A new yard bird this morning over Hunt Hill Road. Two black vultures 
> circling each other just flew over.
> Laura
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] cayugabirds-l digest: March 07, 2024

[Allison Myers]

 Just in case anyone were interested in visiting the area to look for the Black 
Vultures:  the farm stand (Fall Creek Farm Market) is only closed for the 
winter, the owners live nearby, and they have posted their property and 
confirmed in person that they don't appreciate trespassers, even for such 
seemingly harmless pursuits as cross-country skiing across fallow winter fields 
(which is, of course, completely within their rights).  However, the barn is 
very near the road and easily visible from it.
- Allison Myers

=Subject: Re: Black vulturesFrom: Dave Nutter 
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:53:24 -0500X-Message-Number: 3
The barn is between Freeville & McLean, more specifically along the SE side of 
Fall Creek Rd between Red Mill Rd & Malloryville Rd. Google maps shows a 
building complex associated with a closed farm stand. Below is the eBird rare 
bird report which I saved. The record doesn’t show up in the eBird database 
if you search Black Vulture, but I am still able to access it from this link, 
so it hasn’t been deleted, revised, or hidden, I guess just not confirmed.
>> Black Vulture (Coragyps atratus) (2)> - Reported Feb 16, 2024 11:34 by Paul 
>> Rodewald> - 340–350 Fall Creek Rd, Freeville US-NY (42.5289,-76.3158), 
>> Tompkins, New York> - Map: 
>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.528927,-76.315839=42.528927,-76.315839>
>>  - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S162563609> - Comments: "Two BLVUs 
>> flying from barn at this location.  Seems early for northern limit of 
>> breeding range, but appeared to be inspecting a potential or prior nest 
>> location.">- - Dave Nutter


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