Re: [cayugabirds-l] Question about Merlin behavior (the falcon, not the app)

2023-07-24 Thread John Gregoire
During my banding years at Cape May, we loved Merlin time. The birds love
to have fun and play with any creature available. What you describe is
often seen. Our frustration was with the ones that seemed to know our
catch tactics and would tease to the point of getting caught and then slip
away with a howdy-har-har type vocalization, Finally developed a
technique that fooled some but overall feeling they enjoyed playing with us.
Perhaps John Confer who has been studying them these last few years can
speak to territorial defense. My birds were all migrants.
John

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 11:54 AM  wrote:

> On Saturday in the early evening, at the gate of the Grassroots festival
> as crowds of people were streaming in, a Merlin started calling
> continuously for many seconds - 10? 15?  It came into view from the west
> and was chasing a crow and diving at it.  They were maybe 30' above the
> tree tops and I had no binoculars but they were easy to see, passing
> directly overhead.  The crow was twisting and dodging, flying evasively
> - one of the crow's tail feathers came loose & floated away so
> presumably the merlin was grabbing at it.  I don't remember hearing the
> crow vocalize but the merlin never stopped.  They passed over Smith
> Woods and then the merlin turned off to the north.  My impression was
> extreme aggression by the merlin and retreat by the crow but I only saw
> them for maybe 5 seconds, it was pretty quick.
>
> Anyone know if this is territorial defense or something else?  Does the
> merlin defend territory after its young have fledged?  Is it some form
> of very rough inter-species play?  I found this report in Bent:
>
> > ... Mr. Brewster (1925) witnessed the following peculiar behavior of a
> > pigeon hawk:
> >
> > He was either playing or fighting with a Crow, the former I thought,
> > for although the behavior of both birds was rough and aggressive, it
> > seemed to represent mutual participation in a sportive game curiously
> > regulated and much enjoyed. Thus the successive lungings and chasings
> > were not either one-sided or haphazard, but so conducted that each
> > bird alternately took the part of pursuer and pursued, and when
> > enacting the latter role gave way at once, or after the merest
> > pretense of restance, to flee as if for its life, dodging and
> > twisting; yet it was prompt enough to rejoin the other bird at the end
> > of such a bout, when the two would rest awhile on the same stub,
> > perching only a few feet apart and facing one another, perhaps not
> > without some mutual distrust. During these aerial evolutions the Hawk
> > screamed and the Crow uttered a rolling croak, almost incessantly.
> > They separated and flew off in different directions when my presence
> > was finally discovered.
> >
> Has anyone else witnessed 'play' like this?  Alternatively do merlins
> continue to attack crows after their young fledge?
>
> Alicia
>
>
>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Question about Merlin behavior (the falcon, not the app)

2023-07-24 Thread Tim Gallagher
Merlins are very aggressive if they have young and feel like they might be in 
danger—and there is a nest with already fledged young in Trumansburg. But 
actually, Merlins can be pretty aggressive anyway, with or without a nest. I've 
seen Merlins at migration hotpots like Hawk Mountain and Cape May come 
streaking across the sky, diving at every raptor in sight. They're one of my 
favorite birds.

Tim

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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Question about Merlin behavior (the falcon, not the 
app)

On Saturday in the early evening, at the gate of the Grassroots festival
as crowds of people were streaming in, a Merlin started calling
continuously for many seconds - 10? 15?  It came into view from the west
and was chasing a crow and diving at it.  They were maybe 30' above the
tree tops and I had no binoculars but they were easy to see, passing
directly overhead.  The crow was twisting and dodging, flying evasively
- one of the crow's tail feathers came loose & floated away so
presumably the merlin was grabbing at it.  I don't remember hearing the
crow vocalize but the merlin never stopped.  They passed over Smith
Woods and then the merlin turned off to the north.  My impression was
extreme aggression by the merlin and retreat by the crow but I only saw
them for maybe 5 seconds, it was pretty quick.

Anyone know if this is territorial defense or something else?  Does the
merlin defend territory after its young have fledged?  Is it some form
of very rough inter-species play?  I found this report in Bent:

> ... Mr. Brewster (1925) witnessed the following peculiar behavior of a
> pigeon hawk:
>
> He was either playing or fighting with a Crow, the former I thought,
> for although the behavior of both birds was rough and aggressive, it
> seemed to represent mutual participation in a sportive game curiously
> regulated and much enjoyed. Thus the successive lungings and chasings
> were not either one-sided or haphazard, but so conducted that each
> bird alternately took the part of pursuer and pursued, and when
> enacting the latter role gave way at once, or after the merest
> pretense of restance, to flee as if for its life, dodging and
> twisting; yet it was prompt enough to rejoin the other bird at the end
> of such a bout, when the two would rest awhile on the same stub,
> perching only a few feet apart and facing one another, perhaps not
> without some mutual distrust. During these aerial evolutions the Hawk
> screamed and the Crow uttered a rolling croak, almost incessantly.
> They separated and flew off in different directions when my presence
> was finally discovered.
>
Has anyone else witnessed 'play' like this?  Alternatively do merlins
continue to attack crows after their young fledge?

Alicia



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[cayugabirds-l] Question about Merlin behavior (the falcon, not the app)

2023-07-24 Thread tess
On Saturday in the early evening, at the gate of the Grassroots festival 
as crowds of people were streaming in, a Merlin started calling 
continuously for many seconds - 10? 15?  It came into view from the west 
and was chasing a crow and diving at it.  They were maybe 30' above the 
tree tops and I had no binoculars but they were easy to see, passing 
directly overhead.  The crow was twisting and dodging, flying evasively 
- one of the crow's tail feathers came loose & floated away so 
presumably the merlin was grabbing at it.  I don't remember hearing the 
crow vocalize but the merlin never stopped.  They passed over Smith 
Woods and then the merlin turned off to the north.  My impression was 
extreme aggression by the merlin and retreat by the crow but I only saw 
them for maybe 5 seconds, it was pretty quick.


Anyone know if this is territorial defense or something else?  Does the 
merlin defend territory after its young have fledged?  Is it some form 
of very rough inter-species play?  I found this report in Bent:


... Mr. Brewster (1925) witnessed the following peculiar behavior of a 
pigeon hawk:


He was either playing or fighting with a Crow, the former I thought, 
for although the behavior of both birds was rough and aggressive, it 
seemed to represent mutual participation in a sportive game curiously 
regulated and much enjoyed. Thus the successive lungings and chasings 
were not either one-sided or haphazard, but so conducted that each 
bird alternately took the part of pursuer and pursued, and when 
enacting the latter role gave way at once, or after the merest 
pretense of restance, to flee as if for its life, dodging and 
twisting; yet it was prompt enough to rejoin the other bird at the end 
of such a bout, when the two would rest awhile on the same stub, 
perching only a few feet apart and facing one another, perhaps not 
without some mutual distrust. During these aerial evolutions the Hawk 
screamed and the Crow uttered a rolling croak, almost incessantly. 
They separated and flew off in different directions when my presence 
was finally discovered.


Has anyone else witnessed 'play' like this?  Alternatively do merlins 
continue to attack crows after their young fledge?


Alicia



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