Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures
Great interview re Christmas Bird Count , Paul! Thanks for doing it. Donna Scott Lansing Count region 9; + collecting feeder count #s Jan 1, 4 -6 PM, 254-2473 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Paul Anderson <p...@grammatech.com<mailto:p...@grammatech.com>> wrote: If the Black Vultures hang around until tomorrow (Friday), they will be a new species for the Christmas Bird Count. My interview about the count (recorded Tuesday) was aired on WCHU today: http://whcuradio.com/morning-newswatch/new-years-day-with-cayuga-bird-club/. In it I mentioned vultures. Before 2004 we had never recorded a Turkey Vulture, but they've been seen every year since but one. Vultures moving their winter range north appears to be a trend. -Paul On 12/28/2017 10:18 AM, AB Clark wrote: I too went back through Bluewing as well as CBL, and repeat sightings of 2 BLVU in Broome followed the 7, as were sightings of 2 in Cayuga Basin, several times through March and early April. Then I can find no sightings (although I didn’t check ebird) until late summer, when they started being seen around the Compost (1 and 2 at a time). Wonder if some tracking through lists and eBird could suggest where a pair could have bred not far from the purview of both lists and within a day’s sail of the compost. I COULD check the Breeding Bird Altas…if I weren’t going to sail down to Binghamton for a few hours. anne Anne B Clark 147 Hile School Rd Freeville, NY 13068 607-222-0905 anneb.cl...@gmail.com<mailto:anneb.cl...@gmail.com> On Dec 28, 2017, at 9:59 AM, David Nicosia <daven102...@gmail.com<mailto:daven102...@gmail.com>> wrote: We had 7 Black Vultures in Vestal NY last spring just south of Binghamton which was a record high for Broome County. We also had another bird reported in the spring in Chenango Bridge NY. I also heard from the Chemung Valley folks that they had 8 BVs this spring a new record for them as well. Who knows in 10 years they may be regular in central NY. TVs were rare at one point many decades ago and they have made a remarkable expansion north. It would be cool to see both regularly up here! On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu<mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote: Maybe. They do breed in the state and have become more common over the last few years. Kevin From: bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu> <bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of psaracin <psara...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 5:24 PM To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures Hi Kevin. Is the vultures' presence a sign of their creeping advance into the state? Thanks. Pete Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: "Kevin J. McGowan" <k...@cornell.edu<mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> Date: 12/27/17 3:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures Yesterday I got a good look at the four Black Vultures that have been hanging around. They were sitting together on one of the compost piles at the Cornell facility on Stevenson Road. Two of the four had very black faces and feathers higher up on the back of the head, indicating that they are young birds hatched this year. The other two had gray, wrinkled faces of adults. I saw both juveniles interact with an adult, pecking at each other’s bill in what looked like an “affectionate” way. (We use the term “affiliative behavior” for things like grooming and other positive interactions.) They may have done some brief allopreening, but I couldn’t tell for sure. Black Vultures are known to have a complex social system where they associate and cooperate with kin. Young Black Vultures are known to hang out with their parents up until the next breeding season. I suspect this group is a mated pair with two offspring. That would explain why we always see the four together. Also present was the leucistic Turkey Vulture that has been seen off and on for a number of years. I have photos at http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S41325840. Kevin Do you know about our other distance-learning opportunities? Visit Bird Academy<https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/>, https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/ to see our list of courses. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsS
Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures
If the Black Vultures hang around until tomorrow (Friday), they will be a new species for the Christmas Bird Count. My interview about the count (recorded Tuesday) was aired on WCHU today: http://whcuradio.com/morning-newswatch/new-years-day-with-cayuga-bird-club/. In it I mentioned vultures. Before 2004 we had never recorded a Turkey Vulture, but they've been seen every year since but one. Vultures moving their winter range north appears to be a trend. -Paul On 12/28/2017 10:18 AM, AB Clark wrote: > I too went back through Bluewing as well as CBL, and repeat sightings > of 2 BLVU in Broome followed the 7, as were sightings of 2 in Cayuga > Basin, several times through March and early April. Then I can find > no sightings (although I didn’t check ebird) until late summer, when > they started being seen around the Compost (1 and 2 at a time). > > Wonder if some tracking through lists and eBird could suggest where a > pair could have bred not far from the purview of both lists and within > a day’s sail of the compost. I COULD check the Breeding Bird Altas…if > I weren’t going to sail down to Binghamton for a few hours. > > anne > > Anne B Clark > 147 Hile School Rd > Freeville, NY 13068 > 607-222-0905 > anneb.cl...@gmail.com <mailto:anneb.cl...@gmail.com> > > > > > >> On Dec 28, 2017, at 9:59 AM, David Nicosia <daven102...@gmail.com >> <mailto:daven102...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> We had 7 Black Vultures in Vestal NY last spring just south of >> Binghamton which was a record high for Broome County. We also had >> another bird reported in the spring in Chenango Bridge NY. >> I also heard from the Chemung Valley folks that they had 8 BVs this >> spring a new record for them as well. Who knows in 10 years they may >> be regular in central NY. TVs were rare at one point many decades ago >> and they have made a remarkable expansion north. It would be cool to >> see both regularly up here! >> >> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu >> <mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote: >> >> Maybe. They do breed in the state and have become more common >> over the last few years. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu >> <mailto:bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu> >> <bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu >> <mailto:bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of >> psaracin <psara...@rochester.rr.com >> <mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 5:24 PM >> *To:* Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L >> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures >> Hi Kevin. Is the vultures' presence a sign of their creeping >> advance into the state? >> Thanks. >> Pete >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> >> Original message >> From: "Kevin J. McGowan" <k...@cornell.edu >> <mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> >> Date: 12/27/17 3:41 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu >> <mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>> >> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures >> >> Yesterday I got a good look at the four Black Vultures that have >> been hanging around. They were sitting together on one of the >> compost piles at the Cornell facility on Stevenson Road. Two of >> the four had very black faces and feathers higher up on the back >> of the head, indicating that they are young birds hatched this >> year. The other two had gray, wrinkled faces of adults. >> >> >> I saw both juveniles interact with an adult, pecking at each >> other’s bill in what looked like an “affectionate” way. (We use >> the term “affiliative behavior” for things like grooming and >> other positive interactions.) They may have done some brief >> allopreening, but I couldn’t tell for sure. >> >> >> Black Vultures are known to have a complex social system where >> they associate and cooperate with kin. Young Black Vultures are >> known to hang out with their parents up until the next breeding >> season. >> >> >> I suspect this group is a mated pair with two offspring. That >> would explain why we always see the four together. >> >&
Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures
I too went back through Bluewing as well as CBL, and repeat sightings of 2 BLVU in Broome followed the 7, as were sightings of 2 in Cayuga Basin, several times through March and early April. Then I can find no sightings (although I didn’t check ebird) until late summer, when they started being seen around the Compost (1 and 2 at a time). Wonder if some tracking through lists and eBird could suggest where a pair could have bred not far from the purview of both lists and within a day’s sail of the compost. I COULD check the Breeding Bird Altas…if I weren’t going to sail down to Binghamton for a few hours. anne Anne B Clark 147 Hile School Rd Freeville, NY 13068 607-222-0905 anneb.cl...@gmail.com > On Dec 28, 2017, at 9:59 AM, David Nicosia <daven102...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We had 7 Black Vultures in Vestal NY last spring just south of Binghamton > which was a record high for Broome County. We also had another bird reported > in the spring in Chenango Bridge NY. > I also heard from the Chemung Valley folks that they had 8 BVs this spring a > new record for them as well. Who knows in 10 years they may be regular in > central NY. TVs were rare at one point many decades ago and they have made a > remarkable expansion north. It would be cool to see both regularly up here! > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu > <mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote: > Maybe. They do breed in the state and have become more common over the last > few years. > > Kevin > > > > > From: bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu > <mailto:bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu> > <bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu > <mailto:bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of psaracin > <psara...@rochester.rr.com <mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 5:24 PM > To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures > > Hi Kevin. Is the vultures' presence a sign of their creeping advance into the > state? > Thanks. > Pete > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > Original message > From: "Kevin J. McGowan" <k...@cornell.edu <mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> > Date: 12/27/17 3:41 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu > <mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>> > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures > > Yesterday I got a good look at the four Black Vultures that have been hanging > around. They were sitting together on one of the compost piles at the Cornell > facility on Stevenson Road. Two of the four had very black faces and feathers > higher up on the back of the head, indicating that they are young birds > hatched this year. The other two had gray, wrinkled faces of adults. > > > I saw both juveniles interact with an adult, pecking at each other’s bill in > what looked like an “affectionate” way. (We use the term “affiliative > behavior” for things like grooming and other positive interactions.) They may > have done some brief allopreening, but I couldn’t tell for sure. > > > Black Vultures are known to have a complex social system where they associate > and cooperate with kin. Young Black Vultures are known to hang out with their > parents up until the next breeding season. > > > I suspect this group is a mated pair with two offspring. That would explain > why we always see the four together. > > > Also present was the leucistic Turkey Vulture that has been seen off and on > for a number of years. > > > I have photos at http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S41325840 > <http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S41325840>. > > > Kevin > > > > Do you know about our other distance-learning opportunities? Visit Bird > Academy <https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/>, > https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/ > <https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/> to see our list of courses. > > > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail Archive > <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please subm
Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures
We had 7 Black Vultures in Vestal NY last spring just south of Binghamton which was a record high for Broome County. We also had another bird reported in the spring in Chenango Bridge NY. I also heard from the Chemung Valley folks that they had 8 BVs this spring a new record for them as well. Who knows in 10 years they may be regular in central NY. TVs were rare at one point many decades ago and they have made a remarkable expansion north. It would be cool to see both regularly up here! On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu> wrote: > Maybe. They do breed in the state and have become more common over the > last few years. > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > *From:* bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu < > bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of psaracin < > psara...@rochester.rr.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 5:24 PM > *To:* Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L > *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures > > Hi Kevin. Is the vultures' presence a sign of their creeping advance into > the state? > Thanks. > Pete > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > Original message > From: "Kevin J. McGowan" <k...@cornell.edu> > Date: 12/27/17 3:41 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures > > Yesterday I got a good look at the four Black Vultures that have been > hanging around. They were sitting together on one of the compost piles at > the Cornell facility on Stevenson Road. Two of the four had very black > faces and feathers higher up on the back of the head, indicating that they > are young birds hatched this year. The other two had gray, wrinkled faces > of adults. > > > > I saw both juveniles interact with an adult, pecking at each other’s bill > in what looked like an “affectionate” way. (We use the term “affiliative > behavior” for things like grooming and other positive interactions.) They > may have done some brief allopreening, but I couldn’t tell for sure. > > > > Black Vultures are known to have a complex social system where they > associate and cooperate with kin. Young Black Vultures are known to hang > out with their parents up until the next breeding season. > > > > I suspect this group is a mated pair with two offspring. That would > explain why we always see the four together. > > > > Also present was the leucistic Turkey Vulture that has been seen off and > on for a number of years. > > > > I have photos at http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S41325840. > > > > Kevin > > > > > *Do you know about our other distance-learning opportunities? Visit **Bird > Academy* <https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/>*, > **https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/ > <https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/> ** to see our list of > courses.* > > > -- > *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > *Please submit your observations to eBird > <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* > -- > -- > *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > *Please submit your observations to eBird > <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* > -- > -- > *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail Archi
Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures
Maybe. They do breed in the state and have become more common over the last few years. Kevin From: bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu <bounce-122158375-3493...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of psaracin <psara...@rochester.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 5:24 PM To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures Hi Kevin. Is the vultures' presence a sign of their creeping advance into the state? Thanks. Pete Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: "Kevin J. McGowan" <k...@cornell.edu> Date: 12/27/17 3:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures Yesterday I got a good look at the four Black Vultures that have been hanging around. They were sitting together on one of the compost piles at the Cornell facility on Stevenson Road. Two of the four had very black faces and feathers higher up on the back of the head, indicating that they are young birds hatched this year. The other two had gray, wrinkled faces of adults. I saw both juveniles interact with an adult, pecking at each other’s bill in what looked like an “affectionate” way. (We use the term “affiliative behavior” for things like grooming and other positive interactions.) They may have done some brief allopreening, but I couldn’t tell for sure. Black Vultures are known to have a complex social system where they associate and cooperate with kin. Young Black Vultures are known to hang out with their parents up until the next breeding season. I suspect this group is a mated pair with two offspring. That would explain why we always see the four together. Also present was the leucistic Turkey Vulture that has been seen off and on for a number of years. I have photos at http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S41325840. Kevin Do you know about our other distance-learning opportunities? Visit Bird Academy<https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/>, https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/ to see our list of courses. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures
Hi Kevin. Is the vultures' presence a sign of their creeping advance into the state?Thanks.Pete Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: "Kevin J. McGowan"Date: 12/27/17 3:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] the four Black Vultures Yesterday I got a good look at the four Black Vultures that have been hanging around. They were sitting together on one of the compost piles at the Cornell facility on Stevenson Road. Two of the four had very black faces and feathers higher up on the back of the head, indicating that they are young birds hatched this year. The other two had gray, wrinkled faces of adults. I saw both juveniles interact with an adult, pecking at each other’s bill in what looked like an “affectionate” way. (We use the term “affiliative behavior” for things like grooming and other positive interactions.) They may have done some brief allopreening, but I couldn’t tell for sure. Black Vultures are known to have a complex social system where they associate and cooperate with kin. Young Black Vultures are known to hang out with their parents up until the next breeding season. I suspect this group is a mated pair with two offspring. That would explain why we always see the four together. Also present was the leucistic Turkey Vulture that has been seen off and on for a number of years. I have photos at http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S41325840. Kevin Do you know about our other distance-learning opportunities? Visit Bird Academy, https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/courses/ to see our list of courses. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --