Re: [cayugabirds-l] [nysbirds-l] Port Authority backs off Snowy Owl killings
Great Work everyone! On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Corinne Morton renecorinne...@hotmail.comwrote: Awesome! Our voices were heard. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see this go to Cayugabirds so I am resending. This is great news and I am proud of us all!! Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Christina Wilkinson nutrich...@rcn.com wrote: Looks like the activism worked: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE December 9, 2013 CONTACT: Port Authority of New York and New Jersey 212-435- STATEMENT FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY ON SNOWY OWLS “The Port Authority is working with the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation to move immediately toward implementing a program to trap and relocate snowy owls that pose a threat to aircraft at JFK and LaGuardia airports. The Port Authority’s goal is to strike a balance in humanely controlling bird populations at and around the agency’s airports to safeguard passengers on thousands of aircrafts each day. Over the past two weeks, five planes at JFK, Newark Liberty and LaGuardia airports were struck by snowy owls that have been migrating to our region in far higher than typical numbers this year.” Great work, everyone! Christina -- *NYSbirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html *Please submit your observations to **eBird*http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ *!* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] House Finch behavior question
I'm not familiar enough with trees and their seeds; I never would have thought of that, so I thank you! Mona Bearor From: Dave Nutter [mailto:nutter.d...@me.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:53 PM To: Mona Bearor Cc: 'cayugabirds-l' Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] House Finch behavior question That looks to me like a samara type seed from an ash tree or tulip tree, in which case it could be a food item. --Dave Nutter On Dec 09, 2013, at 08:33 PM, Mona Bearor conservebi...@gmail.com wrote: Please check the photo on this webpage: http://dogsfirstclass.com/mona/hofibehavior.html It appears to be a male House Finch passing a non-food item (a leaf?) to a female. I have never seen a bird do this, unless it was material brought to a nest site. Any thoughts on this behavior? Mona Bearor S Glens Falls -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html The Mail Archive http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Surfbirds http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ ! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at Target, Ithaca Mall, Wed Dec 11
Found by Perri McGowan, I believe. Mark Chao --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Ithaca/Lansing Snowy Owl -- not refound so far
At least three parties have spent the last half-hour or so looking for the Snowy Owl at the Ithaca Mall, I believe without success so far. I also drove along Burdick Hill Road (north of the mall) and through Kendal (expansive retirement community not far to the south of the mall) but did not find any owl in any obvious spots. Kevin McGowan confirmed with me that Perri did indeed find the owl. She said that the owl was on a truck in the parking lot by Target. (Of course in my earlier post I meant Tuesday, December 10.) Mark Chao --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Eagles and Wind Industry
You may have heard the recent media reports about the feds issuing 30 year take permits for wind farms. This is from a current NAS Action Alert https://secure3.convio.net/nasaud/site/Advocacy;jsessionid=93A828DA34981EB5C99FD958732790DA.app304a?pagename=homepagepage=UserActionid=1549autologin=true /We must act quickly to urge Interior Secretary Jewell to reverse a recent decision to grant 30-year eagle permits to the wind industry. Newer technology and siting information is available that could pose less risk to birds, but the Interior's action has put Bald and Golden Eagles at risk/. I hope you will take the time to click on the link and send a letter to the Interior Secretary. As you may know, Delaware-Otsego Audubon Society recently stalled (or halted) a wind project in Walton, NY. For risk to eagles, we consider the site one of the worst places in New York to build such a project. During discussions with regulators, I was told USFWS was considering issuing a take permit for Bald Eagles for this project based on a fatally flawed eagle risk assessment. I urge people to use the NAS action alert and/or send personalized comments. You can use the information on the South Mountain Wind Project below to personalize your letter. If you would like detailed information about the egregious problems with the South Mountain Project in Walton risk assessment, feel free to contact me off the list. Tom Salo -- Tom Salo 5145 State Highway 51 West Burlington, NY 13482 607-965-8232 salotho...@gmail.com * The NYS GUIDELINES for CONDUCTING BIRD and BAT STUDIES at COMMERCIAL WIND ENERGY PROJECTS were ignored, e.g. local bird clubs and hawk watches were not contacted as required. * Local hawk watch data - readily available on both local and national hawk count web sites - were ignored. * Golden Eagle was not included in the Environmental Assessment Form even though the project is in a fall and spring concentration area, and wintering birds are regular. * Bald Eagles nest very close to the project and concentrate around the adjacent Cannonsville Reservoir in winter. * After being directed by regulators to contact DOAS, the Franklin Mountain Hawk Watch, and Golden Eagle researchers tracking telemetered eagles, the developers failed to do so. * 40% of the GPS tracked Golden Eagles in eastern North America spent time within 10 miles of the project area. * The developer hired incompetent surveyors to record raptors. No Broad-winged Hawks were recorded in September when they are the most numerous and visible raptor in the sky. Broad-winged Hawks were recorded in early March a month before they arrived in New York. These are not the only troubling data. * The developer failed to adequately survey peaks of the spring and fall Golden Eagle migration. Only 4 days were covered in November 2012, and only one of those days had NW winds. Only 2 days were covered during the first 2 weeks of March - a spring migration peak. * No winter surveys were done. Winter risk assessment was based upon their faulty migration data. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at Target, Ithaca Mall, Wed Dec 11
Doing a little holiday shopping, no doubt! They actually only come south for the bargains. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-23248-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-23248-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Mark Chao [markc...@imt.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:45 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at Target, Ithaca Mall, Wed Dec 11 Found by Perri McGowan, I believe… Mark Chao [http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png] http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirushttp://www.avast.com/ protection is active. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Snowy owl refound. Lansing Fire Dept
On roof. Visible from road. Don't block fire dept driveway in case that isn't obvious. :-). 120 oakcrest dr. Sent from my iPhone -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Eagles and Wind Industry
Let's keep up our activist momentum!! This is an extremely important issue for eagles and for the desired direction of wind energy. See below. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY -- Forwarded message -- From: Thomas Salo salotho...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:38 AM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Eagles and Wind Industry To: nysbird...@cornell.edu nysbird...@cornell.edu You may have heard the recent media reports about the feds issuing 30 year take permits for wind farms. This is from a current NAS Action Alerthttps://secure3.convio.net/nasaud/site/Advocacy;jsessionid=93A828DA34981EB5C99FD958732790DA.app304a?pagename=homepagepage=UserActionid=1549autologin=true *We must act quickly to urge Interior Secretary Jewell to reverse a recent decision to grant 30-year eagle permits to the wind industry. Newer technology and siting information is available that could pose less risk to birds, but the Interior’s action has put Bald and Golden Eagles at risk*. I hope you will take the time to click on the link and send a letter to the Interior Secretary. As you may know, Delaware-Otsego Audubon Society recently stalled (or halted) a wind project in Walton, NY. For risk to eagles, we consider the site one of the worst places in New York to build such a project. During discussions with regulators, I was told USFWS was considering issuing a take permit for Bald Eagles for this project based on a fatally flawed eagle risk assessment. I urge people to use the NAS action alert and/or send personalized comments. You can use the information on the South Mountain Wind Project below to personalize your letter. If you would like detailed information about the egregious problems with the South Mountain Project in Walton risk assessment, feel free to contact me off the list. Tom Salo -- Tom Salo 5145 State Highway 51 West Burlington, NY 13482607-965-8232salotho...@gmail.com - The NYS GUIDELINES for CONDUCTING BIRD and BAT STUDIES at COMMERCIAL WIND ENERGY PROJECTS were ignored, e.g. local bird clubs and hawk watches were not contacted as required. - Local hawk watch data - readily available on both local and national hawk count web sites - were ignored. - Golden Eagle was not included in the Environmental Assessment Form even though the project is in a fall and spring concentration area, and wintering birds are regular. - Bald Eagles nest very close to the project and concentrate around the adjacent Cannonsville Reservoir in winter. - After being directed by regulators to contact DOAS, the Franklin Mountain Hawk Watch, and Golden Eagle researchers tracking telemetered eagles, the developers failed to do so. - 40% of the GPS tracked Golden Eagles in eastern North America spent time within 10 miles of the project area. - The developer hired incompetent surveyors to record raptors. No Broad-winged Hawks were recorded in September when they are the most numerous and visible raptor in the sky. Broad-winged Hawks were recorded in early March a month before they arrived in New York. These are not the only troubling data. - The developer failed to adequately survey peaks of the spring and fall Golden Eagle migration. Only 4 days were covered in November 2012, and only one of those days had NW winds. Only 2 days were covered during the first 2 weeks of March - a spring migration peak. - No winter surveys were done. Winter risk assessment was based upon their faulty migration data. -- *NYSbirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html *Please submit your observations to **eBird*http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ *!* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[cayugabirds-l] Snowy owl Ithaca Mall found gloves
After about 15-20 minutes the owl flew off the roof of the Lansing Fire Dept. towards the woods behind BJ's Whole Sale. About 10 people got to see it. Lifers for some. Kevin (McGowan) got a good shot of the tail bands and thinks it may be a young male. If you lost a pair of black gloves near Fire Station I found them. Sent from my iPhone -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Reminder! Science Cabaret tonight, 7 PM
Science Cabaret Presents: *Three Climate Change Stories: Mine, Yours, and the Birds'* When: *7 PM, Tuesday, December 10, 2013 * Where: *Lot 10 Lounge, 106 S. Cayuga Street* *FREE!! * Join Scientist/Ornithologist Kim Bostwick for a lively Science Cabaret at the intersection of Climate Change and You! Kim will relate her love of science, nature, and birds to the current climate crisis and its implications for biodiversity. She'll share her personal response to the climate crisis from her perspective as a parent, a bird-watcher, and a professional scientist/ornithologist. During this talk Kim will describe a simple plan you can use in your own response to climate change. Following her talk join in a lively discussion. The implications of climate change are huge! For more information, visit http://www.sciencecabaret.org/. Join the conversation on facebook: http://facebook.com/sciencecabaret Science Cabaret is presented with support from the Downtown Ithaca Alliance. Lot 10 features awesome cocktails, beer, and wine. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at the mall in Lansing
I have posted a few photos of the Target Snowy Owl at http://picasaweb.google.com/101683745969614096883/Winter20132014. Note, the good photos at the top of that page are from the Syracuse airport two weekends ago. The local bird is in the poor photos at the bottom. Kevin -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at the mall in Lansing
Cool pictures, both sets. Had the local owl caught something there? Linda Orkin On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: I have posted a few photos of the Target Snowy Owl at http://picasaweb.google.com/101683745969614096883/Winter20132014. Note, the good photos at the top of that page are from the Syracuse airport two weekends ago. The local bird is in the poor photos at the bottom. Kevin -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at the mall in Lansing
No, it was just having a hard time walking on the slippery roof. Eventually it tried to jump up on the top of the building to perch, but is slipped off backwards down the other side. I got that on video. Kevin From: Linda Orkin [mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:34 PM To: Kevin J. McGowan Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L; CLO-CASUAL-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at the mall in Lansing Cool pictures, both sets. Had the local owl caught something there? Linda Orkin On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu wrote: I have posted a few photos of the Target Snowy Owl at http://picasaweb.google.com/101683745969614096883/Winter20132014. Note, the good photos at the top of that page are from the Syracuse airport two weekends ago. The local bird is in the poor photos at the bottom. Kevin -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at the mall in Lansing
That's pretty humorous. Are you able to post that link? Thanks. Linda On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: No, it was just having a hard time walking on the slippery roof. Eventually it tried to jump up on the top of the building to perch, but is slipped off backwards down the other side. I got that on video. Kevin *From:* Linda Orkin [mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:34 PM *To:* Kevin J. McGowan *Cc:* CAYUGABIRDS-L; CLO-CASUAL-L *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at the mall in Lansing Cool pictures, both sets. Had the local owl caught something there? Linda Orkin On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: I have posted a few photos of the Target Snowy Owl at http://picasaweb.google.com/101683745969614096883/Winter20132014. Note, the good photos at the top of that page are from the Syracuse airport two weekends ago. The local bird is in the poor photos at the bottom. Kevin -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] FW: Snowy owl udpates
Here is a list of updates and links to further information about the Snowy Owls of New York airports. Check out the Today Show link, as well as the others. Great stuff! Thanks to Pat Leonard at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology for putting this information together and sharing it! Laura Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edumailto:l...@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM To: CLO-L Subject: [clo-l] Snowy owl udpates Hi all, You undoubtedly know we're in the middle of a massive influx of Snowy Owls and we wanted to get you up-to-date on some of the publicity surrounding it. --Fitz recorded an interview last night that was part of a larger news story that ran this morning on NBC's Today Show: http://www.today.com/video/today/53788217/#53788217 --We and the press office have sent out a Tip Sheet: http://eepurl.com/KsBTX --Kevin caught some video of a LOCAL Snowy Owl this afternoon, a young male hanging around the Lansing fire station. You can see it via Cornell Box here: https://cornell.box.com/s/uk9ftraxfbei8ipf9nmb --Of course we have the great 2011 material shot in the Washington State, where the bird lives. It's on our YouTube channel. http://youtu.be/Ufkcx-UqljM --Take a look at even more stunning Snowy Owl video in the Macaulay Library archive, including nesting owls feeding their young. Have a lookhttp://bit.ly/1bmf6Fv. --And don't forget to check the latest live eBird map to see where this beauty is showing up! http://ebird.org/ebird/map/snoowl1?neg=trueenv.minX=env.minY=env.maxX=env.maxY=zh=falsegp=falseev=Zmr=onbmo=11emo=12yr=cur Enjoy! Pat Leonard, Staff Writer/Media Relations Cornell Lab of Ornithology (607) 254-2137 pe...@cornell.edumailto:pe...@cornell.edu www.birds.cornell.eduhttp://www.birds.cornell.edu/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] FW: Snowy owl udpates
Can us regular people see Kevin's video? Or do you need to be in the internal listserv. Linda orkin. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edu wrote: Here is a list of updates and links to further information about the Snowy Owls of New York airports. Check out the Today Show link, as well as the others. Great stuff! Thanks to Pat Leonard at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology for putting this information together and sharing it! Laura Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM To: CLO-L Subject: [clo-l] Snowy owl udpates Hi all, You undoubtedly know we’re in the middle of a massive influx of Snowy Owls and we wanted to get you up-to-date on some of the publicity surrounding it. --Fitz recorded an interview last night that was part of a larger news story that ran this morning on NBC’s Today Show: http://www.today.com/video/today/53788217/#53788217 --We and the press office have sent out a Tip Sheet: http://eepurl.com/KsBTX --Kevin caught some video of a LOCAL Snowy Owl this afternoon, a young male hanging around the Lansing fire station. You can see it via Cornell Box here: https://cornell.box.com/s/uk9ftraxfbei8ipf9nmb --Of course we have the great 2011 material shot in the Washington State, where the bird lives. It’s on our YouTube channel. http://youtu.be/Ufkcx-UqljM --Take a look at even more stunning Snowy Owl video in the Macaulay Library archive, including nesting owls feeding their young. Have a look. --And don’t forget to check the latest live eBird map to see where this beauty is showing up! http://ebird.org/ebird/map/snoowl1?neg=trueenv.minX=env.minY=env.maxX=env.maxY=zh=falsegp=falseev=Zmr=onbmo=11emo=12yr=cur Enjoy! Pat Leonard, Staff Writer/Media Relations Cornell Lab of Ornithology (607) 254-2137 pe...@cornell.edu www.birds.cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] FW: Snowy owl udpates
You have the URLs, how could we stop you? ;^) Kevin From: bounce-25218-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-25218-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Orkin Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:55 PM To: Laura Stenzler Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] FW: Snowy owl udpates Can us regular people see Kevin's video? Or do you need to be in the internal listserv. Linda orkin. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edumailto:l...@cornell.edu wrote: Here is a list of updates and links to further information about the Snowy Owls of New York airports. Check out the Today Show link, as well as the others. Great stuff! Thanks to Pat Leonard at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology for putting this information together and sharing it! Laura Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edumailto:l...@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM To: CLO-L Subject: [clo-l] Snowy owl udpates Hi all, You undoubtedly know we’re in the middle of a massive influx of Snowy Owls and we wanted to get you up-to-date on some of the publicity surrounding it. --Fitz recorded an interview last night that was part of a larger news story that ran this morning on NBC’s Today Show: http://www.today.com/video/today/53788217/#53788217 --We and the press office have sent out a Tip Sheet: http://eepurl.com/KsBTX --Kevin caught some video of a LOCAL Snowy Owl this afternoon, a young male hanging around the Lansing fire station. You can see it via Cornell Box here: https://cornell.box.com/s/uk9ftraxfbei8ipf9nmb --Of course we have the great 2011 material shot in the Washington State, where the bird lives. It’s on our YouTube channel. http://youtu.be/Ufkcx-UqljM --Take a look at even more stunning Snowy Owl video in the Macaulay Library archive, including nesting owls feeding their young. Have a lookhttp://bit.ly/1bmf6Fv. --And don’t forget to check the latest live eBird map to see where this beauty is showing up! http://ebird.org/ebird/map/snoowl1?neg=trueenv.minX=env.minY=env.maxX=env.maxY=zh=falsegp=falseev=Zmr=onbmo=11emo=12yr=cur Enjoy! Pat Leonard, Staff Writer/Media Relations Cornell Lab of Ornithology (607) 254-2137 pe...@cornell.edumailto:pe...@cornell.edu www.birds.cornell.eduhttp://www.birds.cornell.edu/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] RBA alearts
OK I have got the GroupMe app on my phone. I have gone on line and get the messages, but not on my phone. Am I supposed to get some sort of alert tone? Am I supposed to get some sort of message? All I get is nothing. I don't want to chat, I don;t want Facebook, all I want are RBA alerts. Can someone PM me and tell me how to get RBAs? Thanks Carl Steckler -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy owl Ithaca mall
Flew off just as we arrived. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Kenneth V. Rosenberg k...@cornell.edu wrote: On light post in nw corner of parking lot behind target and across fr BJs. 4:45 pm Sent from my iPhone -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Lansing Short-eared
Greetings, At 4:45 there was a Short-eared Owl perched on the utility pole at the north end of Scofield Rd where it ends at Buck Rd. It took off and flew south across the field on the east side of Scofield Rd. Ken Smith Pleasant Valley Rd Groton, NY -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Snowy owl udpates
Thank-you, everyone, for compiling the information (making) videos, and helping the Port Authority mend their ways. I was "struck" by one irony in the newscast, however. I'm familiar with the term "bird-strike," and I had always considered it as shorthand for the pilot saying, "We've struck a bird." Yet the news reporters and even Fitz talked about birds striking airplanes. Let's be clear about the relationship. When the airplane is sitting still, the bird does not slam into it the way a confused bird hits a reflective window while fleeing a predator or hits a building or tower while migrating and confused by the lights at night. An idling airplane might actively suck a passing bird into its propellers or jet engine, I suppose, but I doubt birds would often fly that close to a stationary but noisy airplane. When these collisions take place, they are really pretty one-sided. A bird is moving at tens of miles per hour at most, and although birds are very maneuverable, it seems some of them don't get out of the way quickly enough or properly assess the speed, path and danger of moving airplanes. The airplanes, on the other hand, are traveling several times as fast as the birds, perhaps a hundred MPH on the runway and a couple times more than that as they take off and climb. The airplanes are not very maneuverable, although I have been on a small plane whose pilot decided to go around and make a second landing attempt because of a flock of gulls on or near the runway. What happens, occasionally, is that an airplane strikes a bird. The result destroys the bird pretty much every time, I'm guessing. I know that the species of bird is sometimes identified using bits of feathers remaining inside the engine. Airplane windshields are designed to withstand bird strikes. Testing is done by loading dead poultry into a cannon and firing it at the airplane windshield. My guess (correct me if I'm wrong, everybody) is that many bird strikes are on the nose, wings, or tail of the airplane, not the engine, and therefore do not do noteworthy damage to the airplane, although the engines probably take more than their share, based on their size, because they are actively sucking air in. Yes, it's a big problem for an airplane when anything as large, massive, and more-or-less solid as a bird goes through a turbine. And we want to keep the people on that airplane safe. But let's keep it straight: The airplane strikes the bird. A Snowy Owl or (far more dangerous) a flock of hundreds of Canada Geese may be dumb about how to deal with airplanes, but it's not their fault.--Dave NutterOn Dec 10, 2013, at 03:25 PM, Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edu wrote:Here is a list of updates and links to further information about the Snowy Owls of New York airports. Check out the Today Show link, as well as the others. Great stuff! Thanks to Pat Leonard at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology for putting this information together and sharing it!LauraLaura Stenzlerl...@cornell.eduSent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM To: CLO-L Subject: [clo-l] Snowy owl udpatesHi all,You undoubtedly know we’re in the middle of a massive influx of Snowy Owls and we wanted to get you up-to-date on some of the publicity surrounding it.--Fitz recorded an interview last night that was part of a larger news story that ran this morning on NBC’s Today Show: http://www.today.com/video/today/53788217/#53788217--We and the press office have sent out a Tip Sheet: http://eepurl.com/KsBTX--Kevin caught some video of a LOCAL Snowy Owl this afternoon, a young male hanging around the Lansing fire station. You can see it via Cornell Box here: https://cornell.box.com/s/uk9ftraxfbei8ipf9nmb--Of course we have the great 2011 material shot in the Washington State, where the bird lives. It’s on ourYouTube channel. http://youtu.be/Ufkcx-UqljM --Take a look at even more stunning Snowy Owl video in the Macaulay Library archive, including nesting owls feeding their young.Have a look.--And don’t forget to check the latest live eBird map to see where this beauty is showing up! http://ebird.org/ebird/map/snoowl1?neg=trueenv.minX=env.minY=env.maxX=env.maxY=zh=falsegp=falseev=Zmr=onbmo=11emo=12yr=curEnjoy!Pat Leonard, Staff Writer/Media Relations Cornell Lab of Ornithology (607) 254-2137 pe...@cornell.eduwww.birds.cornell.edu--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy owl udpates
The other thing that I was thinking about this is that they said planes were struck by migrating owls. I couldn't imagine how killing owls that had already arrived could ever solve that problem. Linda Orkin Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: Thank-you, everyone, for compiling the information (making) videos, and helping the Port Authority mend their ways. I was struck by one irony in the newscast, however. I'm familiar with the term bird-strike, and I had always considered it as shorthand for the pilot saying, We've struck a bird. Yet the news reporters and even Fitz talked about birds striking airplanes. Let's be clear about the relationship. When the airplane is sitting still, the bird does not slam into it the way a confused bird hits a reflective window while fleeing a predator or hits a building or tower while migrating and confused by the lights at night. An idling airplane might actively suck a passing bird into its propellers or jet engine, I suppose, but I doubt birds would often fly that close to a stationary but noisy airplane. When these collisions take place, they are really pretty one-sided. A bird is moving at tens of miles per hour at most, and although birds are very maneuverable, it seems some of them don't get out of the way quickly enough or properly assess the speed, path and danger of moving airplanes. The airplanes, on the other hand, are traveling several times as fast as the birds, perhaps a hundred MPH on the runway and a couple times more than that as they take off and climb. The airplanes are not very maneuverable, although I have been on a small plane whose pilot decided to go around and make a second landing attempt because of a flock of gulls on or near the runway. What happens, occasionally, is that an airplane strikes a bird. The result destroys the bird pretty much every time, I'm guessing. I know that the species of bird is sometimes identified using bits of feathers remaining inside the engine. Airplane windshields are designed to withstand bird strikes. Testing is done by loading dead poultry into a cannon and firing it at the airplane windshield. My guess (correct me if I'm wrong, everybody) is that many bird strikes are on the nose, wings, or tail of the airplane, not the engine, and therefore do not do noteworthy damage to the airplane, although the engines probably take more than their share, based on their size, because they are actively sucking air in. Yes, it's a big problem for an airplane when anything as large, massive, and more-or-less solid as a bird goes through a turbine. And we want to keep the people on that airplane safe. But let's keep it straight: The airplane strikes the bird. A Snowy Owl or (far more dangerous) a flock of hundreds of Canada Geese may be dumb about how to deal with airplanes, but it's not their fault. --Dave Nutter On Dec 10, 2013, at 03:25 PM, Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edu wrote: Here is a list of updates and links to further information about the Snowy Owls of New York airports. Check out the Today Show link, as well as the others. Great stuff! Thanks to Pat Leonard at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology for putting this information together and sharing it! Laura Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM To: CLO-L Subject: [clo-l] Snowy owl udpates Hi all, You undoubtedly know we’re in the middle of a massive influx of Snowy Owls and we wanted to get you up-to-date on some of the publicity surrounding it. --Fitz recorded an interview last night that was part of a larger news story that ran this morning on NBC’s Today Show: http://www.today.com/video/today/53788217/#53788217 --We and the press office have sent out a Tip Sheet: http://eepurl.com/KsBTX --Kevin caught some video of a LOCAL Snowy Owl this afternoon, a young male hanging around the Lansing fire station. You can see it via Cornell Box here: https://cornell.box.com/s/uk9ftraxfbei8ipf9nmb --Of course we have the great 2011 material shot in the Washington State, where the bird lives. It’s on ourYouTube channel. http://youtu.be/Ufkcx-UqljM --Take a look at even more stunning Snowy Owl video in the Macaulay Library archive, including nesting owls feeding their young. Have a look. --And don’t forget to check the latest live eBird map to see where this beauty is showing up! http://ebird.org/ebird/map/snoowl1?neg=trueenv.minX=env.minY=env.maxX=env.maxY=zh=falsegp=falseev=Zmr=onbmo=11emo=12yr=cur Enjoy! Pat Leonard, Staff Writer/Media Relations Cornell Lab of Ornithology (607) 254-2137 pe...@cornell.edu www.birds.cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds
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I to applaud the quick activism, but I want to point out that the Port Authority's responsibility is safety for planes and passengers. I doubt anyone losing a loved one in a plane crash would be comforted knowing it was caused by a cute Snowy Owl instead of the more common Canada Goose. Boston and New York have two different responses to the same situation, but the motivations are the same. I will hazard a guess that the Port Authority felt a time constraint as they may not have had a trapping / relocating program in place and the hazard is immediate. I don't think anybody is calling for a relocating program for Canada Geese. JFK airport is also much busier than Logan, 7th vs 19th on the airport list. I'm glad they will change their response in the future. Everyone should cut them just a little slack as the term bird strike is really shorthand for holy sh** if that bird had gone in the turbine we're toast ! Jet turbines will and do suck in anything close, just ask the deck crew of any aircraft carrier. The engine may not explode into bits with a bird intake, but it will be wrecked. With any aircraft takeoff or landing is the most hazardous time and that's not when the pilot wants to lose one or more engines. Happy Owl watching, Gary On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Dave Nutter wrote: Thank-you, everyone, for compiling the information (making) videos, and helping the Port Authority mend their ways. I was struck by one irony in the newscast, however. I'm familiar with the term bird-strike, and I had always considered it as shorthand for the pilot saying, We've struck a bird. Yet the news reporters and even Fitz talked about birds striking airplanes. Let's be clear about the relationship. When the airplane is sitting still, the bird does not slam into it the way a confused bird hits a reflective window while fleeing a predator or hits a building or tower while migrating and confused by the lights at night. An idling airplane might actively suck a passing bird into its propellers or jet engine, I suppose, but I doubt birds would often fly that close to a stationary but noisy airplane. When these collisions take place, they are really pretty one-sided. A bird is moving at tens of miles per hour at most, and although birds are very maneuverable, it seems some of them don't get out of the way quickly enough or properly assess the speed, path and danger of moving airplanes. The airplanes, on the other hand, are traveling several times as fast as the birds, perhaps a hundred MPH on the runway and a couple times more than that as they take off and climb. The airplanes are not very maneuverable, although I have been on a small plane whose pilot decided to go around and make a second landing attempt because of a flock of gulls on or near the runway. What happens, occasionally, is that an airplane strikes a bird. The result destroys the bird pretty much every time, I'm guessing. I know that the species of bird is sometimes identified using bits of feathers remaining inside the engine. Airplane windshields are designed to withstand bird strikes. Testing is done by loading dead poultry into a cannon and firing it at the airplane windshield. My guess (correct me if I'm wrong, everybody) is that many bird strikes are on the nose, wings, or tail of the airplane, not the engine, and therefore do not do noteworthy damage to the airplane, although the engines probably take more than their share, based on their size, because they are actively sucking air in. Yes, it's a big problem for an airplane when anything as large, massive, and more-or-less solid as a bird goes through a turbine. And we want to keep the people on that airplane safe. But let's keep it straight: The airplane strikes the bird. A Snowy Owl or (far more dangerous) a flock of hundreds of Canada Geese may be dumb about how to deal with airplanes, but it's not their fault. --Dave Nutter On Dec 10, 2013, at 03:25 PM, Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edumailto:l...@cornell.edu wrote: Here is a list of updates and links to further information about the Snowy Owls of New York airports. Check out the Today Show link, as well as the others. Great stuff! Thanks to Pat Leonard at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology for putting this information together and sharing it! Laura Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edumailto:l...@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM To: CLO-L Subject: [clo-l] Snowy owl udpates Hi all, You undoubtedly know we’re in the middle of a massive influx of Snowy Owls and we wanted to get you up-to-date on some of the publicity surrounding it. --Fitz recorded an interview last night that was part of a larger news story that ran this morning on NBC’s Today Show: http://www.today.com/video/today/53788217/#53788217 --We and the press office have sent out a Tip Sheet: http://eepurl.com/KsBTX --Kevin caught some video of a LOCAL Snowy Owl this afternoon, a young male hanging around
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[image.png] Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Gary Kohlenberg jg...@cornell.edumailto:jg...@cornell.edu wrote: I to applaud the quick activism, but I want to point out that the Port Authority's responsibility is safety for planes and passengers. I doubt anyone losing a loved one in a plane crash would be comforted knowing it was caused by a cute Snowy Owl instead of the more common Canada Goose. Boston and New York have two different responses to the same situation, but the motivations are the same. I will hazard a guess that the Port Authority felt a time constraint as they may not have had a trapping / relocating program in place and the hazard is immediate. I don't think anybody is calling for a relocating program for Canada Geese. JFK airport is also much busier than Logan, 7th vs 19th on the airport list. I'm glad they will change their response in the future. Everyone should cut them just a little slack as the term bird strike is really shorthand for holy sh** if that bird had gone in the turbine we're toast ! Jet turbines will and do suck in anything close, just ask the deck crew of any aircraft carrier. The engine may not explode into bits with a bird intake, but it will be wrecked. With any aircraft takeoff or landing is the most hazardous time and that's not when the pilot wants to lose one or more engines. Happy Owl watching, Gary On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Dave Nutter wrote: Thank-you, everyone, for compiling the information (making) videos, and helping the Port Authority mend their ways. I was struck by one irony in the newscast, however. I'm familiar with the term bird-strike, and I had always considered it as shorthand for the pilot saying, We've struck a bird. Yet the news reporters and even Fitz talked about birds striking airplanes. Let's be clear about the relationship. When the airplane is sitting still, the bird does not slam into it the way a confused bird hits a reflective window while fleeing a predator or hits a building or tower while migrating and confused by the lights at night. An idling airplane might actively suck a passing bird into its propellers or jet engine, I suppose, but I doubt birds would often fly that close to a stationary but noisy airplane. When these collisions take place, they are really pretty one-sided. A bird is moving at tens of miles per hour at most, and although birds are very maneuverable, it seems some of them don't get out of the way quickly enough or properly assess the speed, path and danger of moving airplanes. The airplanes, on the other hand, are traveling several times as fast as the birds, perhaps a hundred MPH on the runway and a couple times more than that as they take off and climb. The airplanes are not very maneuverable, although I have been on a small plane whose pilot decided to go around and make a second landing attempt because of a flock of gulls on or near the runway. What happens, occasionally, is that an airplane strikes a bird. The result destroys the bird pretty much every time, I'm guessing. I know that the species of bird is sometimes identified using bits of feathers remaining inside the engine. Airplane windshields are designed to withstand bird strikes. Testing is done by loading dead poultry into a cannon and firing it at the airplane windshield. My guess (correct me if I'm wrong, everybody) is that many bird strikes are on the nose, wings, or tail of the airplane, not the engine, and therefore do not do noteworthy damage to the airplane, although the engines probably take more than their share, based on their size, because they are actively sucking air in. Yes, it's a big problem for an airplane when anything as large, massive, and more-or-less solid as a bird goes through a turbine. And we want to keep the people on that airplane safe. But let's keep it straight: The airplane strikes the bird. A Snowy Owl or (far more dangerous) a flock of hundreds of Canada Geese may be dumb about how to deal with airplanes, but it's not their fault. --Dave Nutter On Dec 10, 2013, at 03:25 PM, Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edumailto:l...@cornell.edu wrote: Here is a list of updates and links to further information about the Snowy Owls of New York airports. Check out the Today Show link, as well as the others. Great stuff! Thanks to Pat Leonard at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology for putting this information together and sharing it! Laura Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edumailto:l...@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM To: CLO-L Subject: [clo-l] Snowy owl udpates Hi all, You undoubtedly know we’re in the middle of a massive influx of Snowy Owls and we wanted to get you up-to-date on some of the publicity surrounding it. --Fitz recorded an interview last night that was part of a larger news story that ran this morning on NBC’s Today Show: http://www.today.com/video/today/53788217/#53788217 --We and the press
[cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl at the mall
Whitney and Tractor saw the owl at 8:40 this evening at the Target and YMCA. The bird was last seen heading towards BJs. Hopefully it'll still be in the area tomorrow morning, Jeff -- Jeff Gerbracht Lead Application Developer Neotropical Birds, Breeding Bird Atlas, eBird Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2117 -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
