Re:[cayugabirds-l] cayugabirds-l digest: August 17, 2017

[Beth Paris]

Anyone have favorite accommodations or recommendations for birding on block 
island? Much appreciated.

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> On Aug 17, 2017, at 12:05 AM, Upstate NY Birding digest 
>  wrote:
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> CAYUGABIRDS-L Digest for Thursday, August 17, 2017.
> 
> 1. When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> 2. Re: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management 
> Plan
> 3. FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management Plan
> 4. RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> 5. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> 6. RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles - clarification
> 7. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> 8. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> 9. other food for birds
> 10. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> 11. RE: other food for birds
> 12. Re: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife 
> Management Plan
> 13. RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> 14. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> 15. RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
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> Subject: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles
> From: Peter 
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:02:18 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 1
> 
> 
> Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar 
> water and orioles jelly?
> Thanks
> Pete Sar
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> Subject: Re: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife 
> Management Plan
> From: Dave Gislason 
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:10:54 + (UTC)
> X-Message-Number: 2
> 
> They're just telling us about this now, but they've been working at it for a 
> couple of years at least. Living close by, I've seen 3 areas turned into YFIs 
> (one a camping area), and 3 areas of clear-cutting. There other areas with 
> the telltale Blue paint marks indicating "treatments" to come. I would say 
> that communication with the public has been quite poor so far. Only recently 
> did they construct a couple of message boards with a flyer on the Young 
> forest Initiatives -after they had cut down many trees. Maybe they've been 
> barraged with questions and/or complaints.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017, 9:03:46 AM EDT, Martha Fischer 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here’s an FYI…
> There's a new post at TownOfEnfield.org. Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife 
> Management Plan
> Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management Plan
> Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 6:00 p.m.
> Newfield Fire Dept., 77 Main St. Newfield, NY
> NYSDEC will host an open house to provide information on a recently finalized 
> habitat management plan for Connecticut hill Wildlife Management Area located 
> in the Towns of Catherine, Cayuta and Hector, ...
> You may view the latest post at 
> http://townofenfield.org/meeting-on-connecticut-hill-wildlife-management-plan/
> You received this e-mail because you asked to be notified when new updates 
> are posted.
> 
> Thank you.
> Town of Enfield
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> Subject: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife 
> Management Plan
> From: John Confer 
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:25:37 +
> X-Message-Number: 3
> 
> The DEC periodically updates management plans for each forest unit. I don’t 
> know the details of Connecticut Hill, but I did become involved with the 
> Hammond Hill plans. I met with DEC personnel to suggest some alterations in 
> their plans for successional habitat. On balance I strongly support them. The 
> intention is to create habitat that supports a greater diversity of wildlife. 
> In particular, for Hammond Hill State Forest there is a conscious attempt to 
> create more early succession habitat by forest cutting. The background is 
> that in New York most forest species are increasing while most successional 
> species are declining. Even so called forest species frequently use or even 
> require successional habitat for part of the annual diet. Bear fatten on 
> berries, turkey feed their poults on seeds of successional plants, tanagers 
> feed on berries, and deer browse on small woody stems as an important and 
> perhaps critical winter food. etc. Of course, early successional habitat 
> supports a variety of early successional species, but it also provides forage 
> for deer and many other forest species for parts of their annual life. I 
> offer these thoughts after 35 years of research on successional species. I 
> wouldn’t throw out the baby with the bath water on this effort.
> 
> John Confer
> 
> From: bounce-121728155-25065...@list.cornell.edu

[cayugabirds-l] Kestrel, Barn Swallows and Crow (OOB)

[AB Clark]

I watched an interesting sequence around 7 am and got some of it in some really 
bad pictures.  For Basin lovers, all birds in question also use the part of Ed 
Hill Road that is within the Basin.  Indeed the Kestrel may be one of the young 
ones raised in house eaves on Ed Hill Road, and if not, a parent.  (I have to 
see the pictures on my laptop before deciding)

A Kestrel was perched atop a sunning-favored dead tree.  This tree is used by 
multiple species, from Mourning Doves to Redtail Hawks—early am and late pm.  
Good view of sun in both directions?

It was being dive bombed by two very aggressive Barn Swallows and was raising 
its wings repeatedly to protect its head.  (Empathy…our barn door in my 
childhood was guarded by defensive Barn Swallows)   But it refused to leave 
between attacks.  I don’t know that I have ever seen Barn Swallows swooping a 
falcon or hawk.

Then an American Crow arrived, swooped down and that was too much.  The Kestrel 
left.   The crow didn’t even land, but apparently drove off the Kestrel on 
general principles, and continued on toward the field, barely getting off 
course.

I guess young Barn Swallows in particular might make occasional Kestrel prey?  
I watched a Kestrel the other evening capturing something high in the air 
column, perhaps Green Darner dragonflies.

Anne

Anne B Clark
147 Hile School Rd
Freeville, NY 13068
607-222-0905
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[cayugabirds-l] Volunteer for Migration Celebration, September 16th at Cornell Lab of Ornithology in Ithaca

[Lee Ann van Leer]

VOLUNTEERS NEEDED for Migration Celebration!

Migration Celebration at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Saturday, September 16
Join our team of volunteers in the week before the event and from 9:00 am - 
4:00 pm on Saturday.

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At the event:
* Interactive tables featuring Lab programs
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Full-day volunteers receive lunch and a free t-shirt. Be part of a fun 
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You can also find more information on our website at 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Terns

[Geo Kloppel]

Like at Myers, Caspian Terns are hanging out on the mud bars and driftwood at 
the mouth of Owasco Inlet, as Patricia and I found while kayaking in the swamps 
yesterday evening.

Saw an adult Smooth Green Snake in our yard this afternoon. They've been 
breeding here for some years, but we don't see them every day.

-Geo


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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Terns /snake & sparrows

[Donna Lee Scott]

Today, I rescued a little Garter Snake from the middle of my road. It was 
having a rather hard time moving on the smooth surface. Lucky I did. Right 
after that, several cars and trucks went by. 
Yesterday, I found two tiny red efts dead in different parts of the road. Tsk.

After I helped the snake across road, I saw a stripey-breasted baby Chipping 
Sparrow begging near its parents! Charming. Also saw 2 young, spotty Robins.

Donna L. Scott
535 Lansing Station Road
Lansing, NY 14882

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[mailto:bounce-121732046-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:17 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Terns

Like at Myers, Caspian Terns are hanging out on the mud bars and driftwood at 
the mouth of Owasco Inlet, as Patricia and I found while kayaking in the swamps 
yesterday evening.

Saw an adult Smooth Green Snake in our yard this afternoon. They've been 
breeding here for some years, but we don't see them every day.

-Geo


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Re:[cayugabirds-l] FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management Plan

[Dave Gislason]

I respect that you obviously have much more experience and knowledge in this 
area, and that maybe in the long term it is good and necessary, and everything 
will be alright. But, this is a huge project that over the 10 years will 
greatly change the experience of this 11, 237 acres of land.  The State 
proposes to cut down the trees on 1,192  of them. 41 will become grassland, 154 
will become shrub land, and 993 will eventually become young forest (trees cut 
and left, allowing saplings to grow). 
They've been doing this right along - clear-cuts of red pine in 3 places I've 
seen in the last 2-3 years (50 acres?). Two fresh ones show up quite nicely on 
Google Earth on Ct Hill Rd 3#. This year I've seen 3 new YFIs- one was a a 
campground area turned into one, done this year, but not on the plan. Two 
others, on the plan, already finished. Coming upon these is quite a shock when 
you've been hiking these woods for many years. They accomplish these 
"treatments" very quickly with tracked vehicles equipped with grinders to get 
rid of the little stuff, and chainsaws. This is what I have seen so far, before 
the announcement of this plan - the clear-cuts of red pine, and the first YFIs. 
Many much-loved unofficial trails (often the result of previous State 
extractions and maintained by local users) will also be lost, or if they 
survive will have new views of a tortured landscape - vast areas with stumps, 
half-ground trees and the ruts of large tracked vehicles (see proposed fate of 
D21, or the Fingerfields area of B49.2, B53, and B55).Field views if lucky, but 
these apparently require Roundup applications, as we've seen in recent 
yearsapplied to older fields.

Will the thinned areas be a subtler treatment, or will we have new wide access 
roads to these for extraction purposes? What will Lloyd Stark Rd look like 
after they do thinning on F8? Will the patch clear-cuts have a more pleasant 
aspect? Maybe you know more about the details of the various treatments 
mentioned. Maybe it won't end up looking ugly and ravished, like some kind of 
visual equivalent to a big box game store.
Dave



On Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 1:25:40 PM EDT, John Confer  
wrote:


The DEC periodically updates management plans for each forest unit. I don’t 
know the details of Connecticut Hill, but I did become involved with the 
Hammond Hill plans. I met with DEC personnel to suggest some alterations in 
their plans for successional habitat. On balance I strongly support them. The 
intention is to create habitat that supports a greater diversity of wildlife. 
In particular, for Hammond Hill State Forest there is a conscious attempt to 
create more early succession habitat by forest cutting. The background is that 
in New York most forest species are increasing while most successional species 
are declining. Even so called forest species frequently use or even require 
successional habitat for part of the annual diet. Bear fatten on berries, 
turkey feed their poults on seeds of successional plants, tanagers feed on 
berries, and deer browse on small woody stems as an important and perhaps 
critical winter food. etc. Of course, early successional habitat supports a 
variety of early successional species, but it also provides forage for deer and 
many other forest species for parts of their annual life. I offer these 
thoughts after 35 years of research on successional species. I wouldn’t throw 
out the baby with the bath water on this effort.
 
  
 
John Confer
 
  
 
From: bounce-121728155-25065...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121728155-25065...@list.cornell.edu]On Behalf Of Dave Gislason
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:11 PM
To: Martha Fischer ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 

Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill 
Wildlife Management Plan
 
  
 
They're just telling us about this now, but they've been working at it for a 
couple of years at least. Living close by, I've seen 3 areas turned into YFIs 
(one a camping area), and 3 areas of clear-cutting. There other areas with the 
telltale Blue paint marks indicating "treatments" to come. I would say that 
communication with the public has been quite poor so far. Only recently did 
they construct a couple of message boards with a flyer on the Young forest 
Initiatives -after they had cut down many trees. Maybe they've been barraged 
with questions and/or complaints.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017, 9:03:46 AM EDT, Martha Fischer  
wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
Here’s an FYI…
 
  
 
There's a new post at TownOfEnfield.org. Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife 
Management Plan
Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management Plan
Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 6:00 p.m.
Newfield Fire Dept., 77 Main St. Newfield, NY
NYSDEC will host an open house to provide information on a recently finalized 
habitat management plan for Connecticut hill Wildlife Management Area located 
in the Towns of Catherine, Cayuta and Hector, ...
You may view the latest