[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Ok...what's theTFTP service called for CLI restart

2012-06-11 Thread rohith.ra
utils service restart Cisco Tftp


Thanks,
Rohith
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 5 new labs lab 1 - cue

2012-06-11 Thread Randall Crumm
looking at it over I think it was i did not include:
voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to sip
etc
etc
etc
 
Cheers,
Randall




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To: Randall Crumm rrcr...@yahoo.com 
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Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 5 new labs lab 1 - cue
 

The troubleshooting methodology has to be to eliminate various items involved 
in the call.

Change region between br2 and HQ to g711- does that work?

Can you call direct to the cue pilot number from HQ/br1 or is this isolated to 
call forward?

Can you call the cue pilot from br2 phones?

Remove any location cac to eliminate an ouf bandwidth flag

Does the cue have an mrgl to see the Xcoder at br2?

Is the Xcoder in right dpool?

Are you using RSVP? Is there above an overlapping codec in the mtp and Xcoder?


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On Jun 9, 2012, at 12:04, Randall Crumm rrcr...@yahoo.com wrote:


Hi,
I am starting up again.


I am trying to leave a message for branch 2 user.  Branch 2 has CUE.


I configured CTI PR, CTI ports,VM pilot,applied VM pilot to br2ph2 line. 
configured transcoder on br2 gw, registered br2 transcoder to CUCM. applied 
transcoder to a MRG


When I call from br1 I get a fast busy


Any thoughts?


 
Cheers,
Randall

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Blueprint Updates

2012-06-11 Thread Funso Awojoodu
Hello Vik,

Good to know we still have some time to go with the V3 blueprint



 
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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:23:04 -0700
From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Blueprint update
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The message from CIsco Live is 

Dont expect an announcement any time soon re: the blueprint change for CCIE-V. 
My interpretation is this means you have the rest of this year and fairly deep 
into 2013 before a blueprint change.

Understandably not much information is being given but I will share my thoughts 
on our blog next week.

If you are mid way through your studies then you have ample time- I would 
encourage you to not get distracted and get it done on this version.




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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:13:27 -0700
From: Rrcrumm rrcr...@yahoo.com
To: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Last Chance to Register for IPexpert?s
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Lol Vik

You are the Man!!!

Randall

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 Yes I can confirm I am alive and well and am at IPX. I was worried there for 
 a while that you guys on the list had heard something so it is a relief to 
 hear Wayne say that:-)
 
 
 
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 Is vik not with ipx anymore? Sorry not following list for while.
 
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  Kevin Wallace and Anthony Sequeira are both very good and 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq

2012-06-11 Thread Krishna
Hi folks,

I couldn't understand the call flow between HQ and BR1 which are 
provisioned/registed in the cucm. here is the detail structure:

HQ-phone1 -5002     
css-hq-international
pt-pt-internal

BR1-phone1-1002
css-br1-ld
pt-pt-internal

Both phones are residing in the partition pt-internal, and br1 is a mgcp site 
and whereas the hq is the h323 site. when i call 1002 from 5002 or vice versa 
the call works fine, but when i enable deb isdn q931 or deb voip dialp, i dont 
see anything. Whereas when i enable RSVP based CAC, i can see the traces with 
the show sccp connections. 

could any one help me out how the calls are working in between these two. is it 
because the phones are registered to cucm, but logically in a different device 
pool and therefore it routes directly on cucm your help is much appreciated.

Thank you.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 5 new labs lab 1 - cue

2012-06-11 Thread Vik Malhi
You don't need allow connections since it is a cti integration not sip.

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On Jun 10, 2012, at 22:14, Randall Crumm rrcr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 looking at it over I think it was i did not include:
 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to sip
 etc
 etc
 etc
  
 Cheers,
 Randall
 
 From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com
 To: Randall Crumm rrcr...@yahoo.com 
 Cc: Online Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 5 new labs lab 1 - cue
 
 The troubleshooting methodology has to be to eliminate various items involved 
 in the call.
 
 Change region between br2 and HQ to g711- does that work?
 
 Can you call direct to the cue pilot number from HQ/br1 or is this isolated 
 to call forward?
 
 Can you call the cue pilot from br2 phones?
 
 Remove any location cac to eliminate an ouf bandwidth flag
 
 Does the cue have an mrgl to see the Xcoder at br2?
 
 Is the Xcoder in right dpool?
 
 Are you using RSVP? Is there above an overlapping codec in the mtp and Xcoder?
 
 -- 
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 Managing Partner / Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 ext 420
 Fax: +1.810.454.0130 
 
 On Jun 9, 2012, at 12:04, Randall Crumm rrcr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am starting up again.
 
 I am trying to leave a message for branch 2 user.  Branch 2 has CUE.
 
 I configured CTI PR, CTI ports,VM pilot,applied VM pilot to br2ph2 line. 
 configured transcoder on br2 gw, registered br2 transcoder to CUCM. applied 
 transcoder to a MRG
 
 When I call from br1 I get a fast busy
 
 Any thoughts?
 
  
 Cheers,
 Randall
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] UCCX - Do CTI Ports in Partition work ?

2012-06-11 Thread Pavan K
With UCCX, did anybody get calls to work when the CTI ports are in a
partition ?
If so what CSS did you have to configure ?

I have created a RoutePoint in the NULL Partition and CTI ports in a UCCX
partition
Added a CSS for the RoutePoint that includes the UCCX partition (on both
the line  device) but the call doesn't connect.

If i take the CTI ports out of the partition, everything works perfectly.

TIA
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq

2012-06-11 Thread Dan Quinlan (daquinla)
You answered your own question. Both DNs are registered to CUCM and are in 
partitions that the other's CSS can see. The signaling is between each phone 
and UCM. The media is built directly phone to phone. If CAC failed the call 
setup, then AAR could be invoked to use the PSTN. Since CAC allows the call, 
the gateways aren't involved in the call (other than providing IP network 
connectivity.)

DQ
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 I couldn't understand the call flow between HQ and BR1 which are 
 provisioned/registed in the cucm. here is the detail structure:
 
 HQ-phone1 -5002 
 css-hq-international
 pt-pt-internal
 
 BR1-phone1-1002
 css-br1-ld
 pt-pt-internal
 
 Both phones are residing in the partition pt-internal, and br1 is a mgcp site 
 and whereas the hq is the h323 site. when i call 1002 from 5002 or vice versa 
 the call works fine, but when i enable deb isdn q931 or deb voip dialp, i 
 dont see anything. Whereas when i enable RSVP based CAC, i can see the traces 
 with the show sccp connections. 
 
 could any one help me out how the calls are working in between these two. is 
 it because the phones are registered to cucm, but logically in a different 
 device pool and therefore it routes directly on cucm your help is much 
 appreciated.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Krishna.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] using own lab equipment (servers) andtroubleshooting exercises

2012-06-11 Thread Dan Quinlan (daquinla)
You could create intentionally flawed base configs and use DRS to backup / 
restore them. Really though, you'll learn more by just making mistakes, 
troubleshooting your mistakes, and fixing those mistakes. 

DQ
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Steve Nicklas steve.nickl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
  
 When using your own servers, is it still possible to fully experience the 
 troubleshooting sections in the labs?
  
 With IOS devices, of course it is easy to load up the intentionally flawed 
 config file to the router to start troubleshooting.  But with a CUCM for 
 example, how can this be done?  Or is this a concern?
  
 Thanks,
  
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq

2012-06-11 Thread Pavan K
Krishna,

When dialing from station to station and both stations are registered to
UCM,
the call does not normally traverse through the PSTN (no AAR case).
The signaling  media flows over voip directly which is why you dont see
any gateway / q931 debugs being active.

 However for a Voip flow to maintain proper quality, CAC/RSVP is used to
ensure sufficient bandwidth being used which is why you see the RSVP debug
active.

Media flows from endpoint to endpoint directly through the RSVP agents
which is what you see in sh sccp connections

Signaling flows from endpoint to UCM direct. Remember the gateway is not in
the signaling path which is why you do not see anything on the gw.



On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I couldn't understand the call flow between HQ and BR1 which are
 provisioned/registed in the cucm. here is the detail structure:

 HQ-phone1 -5002
 css-hq-international
 pt-pt-internal

 BR1-phone1-1002
 css-br1-ld
 pt-pt-internal

 Both phones are residing in the partition pt-internal, and br1 is a mgcp
 site and whereas the hq is the h323 site. when i call 1002 from 5002 or
 vice versa the call works fine, but when i enable deb isdn q931 or deb voip
 dialp, i dont see anything. Whereas when i enable RSVP based CAC, i can see
 the traces with the show sccp connections.

 could any one help me out how the calls are working in between these two.
 is it because the phones are registered to cucm, but logically in a
 different device pool and therefore it routes directly on cucm your
 help is much appreciated.

 Thank you.

 Krishna.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] UCCX - Do CTI Ports in Partition work ?

2012-06-11 Thread Gurpreet Singh Kukreja
Hi Pavan,

We've seen this behavior with UCCX.

Logically, the calls should work w/ or w/o partition applied on the CTI
Port Group, keeping in mind the CSS applied on the CTI Route Point.

Few things to keep in mind:

1) Always apply the changes on these Triggers/ Port Groups from the CCX and
never from the CM.
2) If you apply the correct CSS on the Trigger which includes the partition
of the Port group, the calls should work.
3) Even after applying the changes if the calls do not work, it could be
very possible that the changes you're making from the CCX are not getting
updated on the CM. In this case, first run the Data Resync from the CCX and
make sure there are no exceptions in the output. Then, restart the CTI
Manager on all CM servers and then restart the CCX Engine.


- Gurpreet


On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 With UCCX, did anybody get calls to work when the CTI ports are in a
 partition ?
 If so what CSS did you have to configure ?

 I have created a RoutePoint in the NULL Partition and CTI ports in a UCCX
 partition
 Added a CSS for the RoutePoint that includes the UCCX partition (on both
 the line  device) but the call doesn't connect.

 If i take the CTI ports out of the partition, everything works perfectly.

 TIA
 --
 - Pavan

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] UCCX - Do CTI Ports in Partition work ?

2012-06-11 Thread Dan Quinlan (daquinla)
I would think that the inbound caller (ip phone or gw) would need the CSS to 
access the CTI ports. 

DQ
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 With UCCX, did anybody get calls to work when the CTI ports are in a 
 partition ?
 If so what CSS did you have to configure ?
 
 I have created a RoutePoint in the NULL Partition and CTI ports in a UCCX 
 partition
 Added a CSS for the RoutePoint that includes the UCCX partition (on both the 
 line  device) but the call doesn't connect.
 
 If i take the CTI ports out of the partition, everything works perfectly.
 
 TIA
 -- 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq

2012-06-11 Thread Krishna
Thank you Dan for providing me the detail info. I assumed the same but not sure 
with my hypothesis. I am wondering if this is the case, then wan qos will not 
be able to do much isn't it... for instance yesterday i configured llq-cbfwq 
with bandwidth of 28 for rtp traffic between hq and br1. And, when i called the 
5002 from 1002 the call went thru, and this call put on hold and placed another 
call and it works fine as well. So, from this analysis can i come to conclusion 
that only location based cac, or rsvp cac can only the number of calls between 
these two sites???

Thank you
Krishna.



 From: Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.com
To: Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com 
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq
 

You answered your own question. Both DNs are registered to CUCM and are in 
partitions that the other's CSS can see. The signaling is between each phone 
and UCM. The media is built directly phone to phone. If CAC failed the call 
setup, then AAR could be invoked to use the PSTN. Since CAC allows the call, 
the gateways aren't involved in the call (other than providing IP network 
connectivity.)


DQ
d...@cisco.com
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Hi folks,


I couldn't understand the call flow between HQ and BR1 which are 
provisioned/registed in the cucm. here is the detail structure:


HQ-phone1 -5002     
css-hq-international
pt-pt-internal


BR1-phone1-1002
css-br1-ld
pt-pt-internal


Both phones are residing in the partition pt-internal, and br1 is a mgcp site 
and whereas the hq is the h323 site. when i call 1002 from 5002 or vice versa 
the call works fine, but when i enable deb isdn q931 or deb voip dialp, i dont 
see anything. Whereas when i enable RSVP based CAC, i can see the traces with 
the show sccp connections. 


could any one help me out how the calls are working in between these two. is 
it because the phones are registered to cucm, but logically in a different 
device pool and therefore it routes directly on cucm your help is much 
appreciated.


Thank you.


Krishna.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 76, Issue 32

2012-06-11 Thread Justin McIntyre
I have been using my own equipment for the labs and practice and have not found 
this to be a detrimental issue.  The only problem with it is this

When you are looking at the initial configs to format them to work on your 
equipment , it's hard not to accidentally spot the purposefully entered 
configuration commands that create the troubleshooting aspect of the labs.  
Thus you must learn from those situations at different times than intended.  As 
far as with the applications, I haven't really noticed anything that I would 
have done to create issues.  UCCX issues are loaded for you in the Volume 2 
labs so you can just load those up into your UCCX server to replicate the 
troubleshooting scenario.  I haven't had any labs (that I can recall) that I 
would have had to create issues in the applications(UCM,CME,UCXn,CUE and CUPS) 
with.  I hope I clearly wrote that.

Anyways, my .02c is that you ultimately have to troubleshoot and account for 
more, thus gain a better understanding, when you use your own equipment.  I 
believe this is cause you have to look more closely at the configs to replicate 
the environment developed by IPE onto your POD.  There is give and take with 
this but I believe it is ultimately more complex and rewarding to use your own 
equipment.  Just make sure you get the benefit of spotting the configuration 
errors in the configs before they bite you...  You will ultimately experience 
more troubleshooting with the use of a diverse POD.  Jut my .02 like I said.  I 
think the Proctor lab PODS setup is awesome and thus I use both, but feel that 
if I had to choose one over the other I would definitely want my own POD.

Thanks,

Justin McIntyre




Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:16:38 -0500
From: Steve Nicklas steve.nickl...@gmail.com
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] using own lab equipment (servers) and
troubleshooting exercises
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Hello all,

When using your own servers, is it still possible to fully experience the 
troubleshooting sections in the labs?

With IOS devices, of course it is easy to load up the intentionally flawed 
config file to the router to start troubleshooting.  But with a CUCM for 
example, how can this be done?  Or is this a concern?

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq

2012-06-11 Thread Dan Quinlan (daquinla)
Qos doesn't stop calls from completing - it just impacts how packets are 
prioritized for sending / dropping / etc. CAC and qos work together. If you 
admit a call on a maxed-out link, all the calls will degrade not just the new 
call. QOS can help keep non-voice traffic from impacting voice traffic. CAC 
keeps voice traffic from impacting other voice traffic.  In your case, it 
depends where you press hold, if you're using MOH, and where the MOH source is. 
If you pressed hold on the branch phone, then the HQ phone connected to music 
at HQ. There was no media traversing the wan for the first call while held. 

DQ
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thank you Dan for providing me the detail info. I assumed the same but not 
 sure with my hypothesis. I am wondering if this is the case, then wan qos 
 will not be able to do much isn't it... for instance yesterday i configured 
 llq-cbfwq with bandwidth of 28 for rtp traffic between hq and br1. And, when 
 i called the 5002 from 1002 the call went thru, and this call put on hold and 
 placed another call and it works fine as well. So, from this analysis can i 
 come to conclusion that only location based cac, or rsvp cac can only the 
 number of calls between these two sites???
 
 Thank you
 Krishna.
 
 From: Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.com
 To: Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com 
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq
 
 You answered your own question. Both DNs are registered to CUCM and are in 
 partitions that the other's CSS can see. The signaling is between each phone 
 and UCM. The media is built directly phone to phone. If CAC failed the call 
 setup, then AAR could be invoked to use the PSTN. Since CAC allows the call, 
 the gateways aren't involved in the call (other than providing IP network 
 connectivity.)
 
 DQ
 d...@cisco.com
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 11, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I couldn't understand the call flow between HQ and BR1 which are 
 provisioned/registed in the cucm. here is the detail structure:
 
 HQ-phone1 -5002 
 css-hq-international
 pt-pt-internal
 
 BR1-phone1-1002
 css-br1-ld
 pt-pt-internal
 
 Both phones are residing in the partition pt-internal, and br1 is a mgcp 
 site and whereas the hq is the h323 site. when i call 1002 from 5002 or vice 
 versa the call works fine, but when i enable deb isdn q931 or deb voip 
 dialp, i dont see anything. Whereas when i enable RSVP based CAC, i can see 
 the traces with the show sccp connections. 
 
 could any one help me out how the calls are working in between these two. is 
 it because the phones are registered to cucm, but logically in a different 
 device pool and therefore it routes directly on cucm your help is much 
 appreciated.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Krishna.
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] [Resolved] UCCX - Do CTI Ports in Partition work ?

2012-06-11 Thread Pavan K
Thanks Gurpreet, Dan  Krishna.

This is now fixed. As Dan mentioned the CSS of caller matters.

==
When a CTI Route point, redirects the call to the CTI port, the CSS of
the device that calls the Route point is used to search for the CTI
Port.
==



From: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:33 PM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com


With UCCX, did anybody get calls to work when the CTI ports are in a
partition ?
If so what CSS did you have to configure ?

I have created a RoutePoint in the NULL Partition and CTI ports in a UCCX
partition
Added a CSS for the RoutePoint that includes the UCCX partition (on both the
line  device) but the call doesn't connect.

If i take the CTI ports out of the partition, everything works perfectly.

TIA
--
- Pavan

--
From: Gurpreet Singh Kukreja tycoononway1...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:27 PM
To: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com


Hi Pavan,

We've seen this behavior with UCCX.

Logically, the calls should work w/ or w/o partition applied on the CTI Port
Group, keeping in mind the CSS applied on the CTI Route Point.

Few things to keep in mind:

1) Always apply the changes on these Triggers/ Port Groups from the CCX and
never from the CM.
2) If you apply the correct CSS on the Trigger which includes the partition
of the Port group, the calls should work.
3) Even after applying the changes if the calls do not work, it could be
very possible that the changes you're making from the CCX are not getting
updated on the CM. In this case, first run the Data Resync from the CCX and
make sure there are no exceptions in the output. Then, restart the CTI
Manager on all CM servers and then restart the CCX Engine.


- Gurpreet

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From: Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.com
Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM
To: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com


I would think that the inbound caller (ip phone or gw) would need the CSS to
access the CTI ports.

DQ
d...@cisco.com

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From: Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:53 PM
To: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com


pavan,

I worked on uccx lab and it worked fine for me. All that you need to
remember one point always, what does the CTI Route point has to see. in this
case the CTI route point has to see the phones partition in order to
handover the calls to the phone agents. Check that internal dns are listed
in your css to make this work.

thank you
krishna.


From: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:33 PM
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] UCCX - Do CTI Ports in Partition work ?
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] FileOpen for iPad

2012-06-11 Thread Dan Quinlan (daquinla)
FYI - FileOpen is now available for iPad. It works great for your IPExpert 
files. 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] [Resolved] UCCX - Do CTI Ports in Partition work ?

2012-06-11 Thread Gurpreet Singh Kukreja
Hi Pavan,

I would like to add a few things here. The only place the CSS of the caller
matters is when they're calling the CTI Route Point and not the ports.

Let me give an example. Consider the below call flow:

Caller's Cell Phone  Dials the 10 digit # for the Co.  PRI  MGCP G/W
 4 digits enter the CM  Matches a Translation Pattern  Forwards the
Calls to the CTI Route Point of the CCX  CTI port answers the call and
then the Agent picks up the call.

Now think at what all places do we need a CSS and what partition we need to
hit:

1) G/W's Inbound CSS should have the PT for the TP (If any)
2) TP's CSS should have the PT of the CTI Route Point.
3) CTI Route Point's CSS should have the PT of the CTI Ports.
4) Finally, CTI Port's CSS should have the Partition of the Agent's Phone.

In this scenario, Endpoint's CSS matters to reach the next destination.

Hope this makes sense.


Regards
Gurpreet

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Gurpreet, Dan  Krishna.

 This is now fixed. As Dan mentioned the CSS of caller matters.

 ==
 When a CTI Route point, redirects the call to the CTI port, the CSS of
 the device that calls the Route point is used to search for the CTI
 Port.
 ==



 From: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:33 PM
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com


 With UCCX, did anybody get calls to work when the CTI ports are in a
 partition ?
 If so what CSS did you have to configure ?

 I have created a RoutePoint in the NULL Partition and CTI ports in a UCCX
 partition
 Added a CSS for the RoutePoint that includes the UCCX partition (on both
 the
 line  device) but the call doesn't connect.

 If i take the CTI ports out of the partition, everything works perfectly.

 TIA
 --
 - Pavan

 --
 From: Gurpreet Singh Kukreja tycoononway1...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:27 PM
 To: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com


 Hi Pavan,

 We've seen this behavior with UCCX.

 Logically, the calls should work w/ or w/o partition applied on the CTI
 Port
 Group, keeping in mind the CSS applied on the CTI Route Point.

 Few things to keep in mind:

 1) Always apply the changes on these Triggers/ Port Groups from the CCX and
 never from the CM.
 2) If you apply the correct CSS on the Trigger which includes the partition
 of the Port group, the calls should work.
 3) Even after applying the changes if the calls do not work, it could be
 very possible that the changes you're making from the CCX are not getting
 updated on the CM. In this case, first run the Data Resync from the CCX and
 make sure there are no exceptions in the output. Then, restart the CTI
 Manager on all CM servers and then restart the CCX Engine.


 - Gurpreet
 
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 From: Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.com
 Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM
 To: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com


 I would think that the inbound caller (ip phone or gw) would need the CSS
 to
 access the CTI ports.

 DQ
 d...@cisco.com

 Sent from my iPhone

 --
 From: Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:53 PM
 To: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com


 pavan,

 I worked on uccx lab and it worked fine for me. All that you need to
 remember one point always, what does the CTI Route point has to see. in
 this
 case the CTI route point has to see the phones partition in order to
 handover the calls to the phone agents. Check that internal dns are listed
 in your css to make this work.

 thank you
 krishna.

 
 From: Pavan K pav.c...@gmail.com
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:33 PM
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] UCCX - Do CTI Ports in Partition work ?
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] callback

2012-06-11 Thread Gurpreet Singh Kukreja
Hi Joel,

Are there two call manager servers? Did the phones flap between servers
(Pub  Sub) cos of any service restarts? Are the phone currently registered
to there Primary CM server?

The Cisco Call Back feature allows you to receive call back notification on
your Cisco IP Phone when a called party line becomes available. To receive
call back notification, a user presses the CallBack softkey while receiving
a busy or ringback tone. You can activate call back notification on a line
on a Cisco IP Phone within the same Cisco CallManager cluster as your
phone. You cannot activate call back notification if the called party has
forwarded all calls to another extension.
This explains when you can actually press the key.  Finally, make sure
Cisco Extended Functions is running on the servers.

Also try going through this link which explains some t/shooting steps
(although old but should help):
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_qanda_item09186a0080191057.shtml#q17


What CM version are you using?

Regards
Gurpreet

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Joel Petralia jrpetra...@msn.com wrote:

  I am trying to get the callback feature working but the phones keep
 displaying Callback in not active. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


 Thank you,
 Joel

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] PSTN issues

2012-06-11 Thread Gurpreet Singh Kukreja
Hi Leslie,

Try removing any policy map commands if they exist and make sure the Vlans
are in place. You can enter the policy map commands if any later if the
phones get registered.

Regards
Gurpreet



On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Leslie Meade leslie.me...@lvs1.com wrote:

 I have a strange issue that I think I know the issue but do not know how
 to fix it.

 I have a test lab and today I fired up my PSTN router a 3745, and for the
 past year it was worked with out an issue.
 But today i am getting the phone hanging at requesting Softkey Template
 then it will cycle through again

 There has been no changes to the router. When i do a debug tftp events i
 get the  following

 Jun  7 21:35:57.695: New Skinny socket accepted [1] (1 active)
 Jun  7 21:35:57.695: sin_family 2, sin_port 50667, in_addr 10.10.200.21
 Jun  7 21:35:57.695: skinny_add_socket 1 10.10.200.21 50667
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: %IPPHONE-6-REG_ALARM: 17: Name=SEP0014F26A78CA
 Load=8.0(9.0) Last=KeepaliveTO
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-(3)[2] StationRegisterMessage (1/1/5) from
 10.10.200.21
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-(3)[2] Register StationIdentifier DeviceName
 SEP0014F26A78CA
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-(3)[2] StationIdentifier Instance 1
  deviceType 7
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-3[1]:stationIpAddr 10.10.200.21
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-3[1][SEP0014F26A78CA]:maxStreams 0
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-3[1][SEP0014F26A78CA]:From Phone raw protocol
 Ver 0x856B
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-3[1][SEP0014F26A78CA]:protocol Ver 0x856B
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-3[1][SEP0014F26A78CA]:phone-size 5480 dn-size
 688
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-(3) Allow any Skinny Server IP address
 10.10.250.2
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-3[1][SEP0014F26A78CA]:Found entry 2 for
 0014F26A78CA
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-3[1][SEP0014F26A78CA]:socket change 1 to 2
 Jun  7 21:35:57.703: ephone-3[1][SEP0014F26A78CA]:DisAssociate: Closed
 socket 1 while REGISTERED
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: %IPPHONE-6-UNREGISTER_ABNORMAL:
 ephone-3:SEP0014F26A78CA IP:10.10.200.21 Socket:1 DeviceType:Phone has
 unregistered abnormally.
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: ephone-3[-1][SEP0014F26A78CA]:FAILED: CLOSED old
 socket -1
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:***Force device subtype
 to 0
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:phone SEP0014F26A78CA
 re-associate OK on socket [2]
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: %IPPHONE-6-REGISTER: ephone-3:SEP0014F26A78CA
 IP:10.10.200.21 Socket:2 DeviceType:Phone has registered.
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: Phone 2 socket 2
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: Skinny Local IP address = 10.10.250.2 on port 2000
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: Skinny Phone IP address = 10.10.200.21 50667
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:Signal protocol ver 8 to
 phone with ver 11
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:Date Format M/D/Y
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: ephone-3[2]:RegisterAck sent to sockettype ephone
 socket 2: keepalive period 30 use sccp-version 8
 Jun  7 21:35:57.707: ephone-3[2]:CapabilitiesReq sent
 Jun  7 21:35:57.715: ephone-3[2]:MediaPathEventMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.715: ephone-3[2]:MediaPathEventMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.719: ephone-3[2]:MediaPathEventMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.755: ephone-3[2]:MediaPathEventMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.759: ephone-3[2]:MediaPathEventMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2]:CapabilitiesRes received
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:Caps list 8
 WideBand_256K  120 ms
 G711Ulaw64k  40 ms
 G711Alaw64k  40 ms
 G729AnnexB  60 ms
 G729AnnexAwAnnexB  60 ms
 G729  60 ms
 G729AnnexA  60 ms
 Unrecognized Media Type 257  4 ms
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2]:MediaPathEventMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2]:MediaPathEventMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2]:ButtonTemplateReqMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919:
 ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:StationButtonTemplateReqMessage set max
 presentation to 6
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2]:CheckAutoReg
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2]:AutoReg is disabled
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:Setting 6 lines 0
 speed-dials on phone (max_line 6)
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:First Speed Dial Button
 location is 0 (0)
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2][SEP0014F26A78CA]:Configured 0 speed dial
 buttons
 Jun  7 21:35:57.919: ephone-3[2]:ButtonTemplate lines=6 speed=0 buttons=6
 offset=0
 Jun  7 21:35:57.927: ephone-3[2]:StationSoftKeyTemplateReqMessage
 Jun  7 21:35:57.927: ephone-3[2]:StationSoftKeyTemplateResMessage  --
 This is where the Requesting Softkey Template hangs
 Jun  7 21:35:58.115: Bring up DN 1 by SkinnyCheckDnStatus
 Jun  7 21:35:58.591: TFTP: Finished system:/its/XMLDefault7960.cnf.xml,
 time 00:00:25 for process 154
 Jun  7 21:35:59.115: Bring up DN 2 by SkinnyCheckDnStatus
 Jun  7 21:36:00.115: Bring up DN 3 by SkinnyCheckDnStatus
 Jun  7 21:36:01.115: Bring up DN 4 by SkinnyCheckDnStatus
 Jun  7 21:36:02.115: Bring up DN 5 by SkinnyCheckDnStatus
 Jun  7 21:36:02.623: TFTP: Finished 

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] FileOpen for iPad

2012-06-11 Thread Rafael Chavantes
Hey Dan,
Have you tested?
I tested Fileopen few weeks ago, but i couldn't open the IPE files.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Dan Quinlan (daquinla)
daqui...@cisco.comwrote:

 FYI - FileOpen is now available for iPad. It works great for your IPExpert
 files.

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] DTMF from BR1 phone to CUC via SIP trunk not recognized properly

2012-06-11 Thread Tapan Gautam (tgautam)
Hey Guys,

 

When I call CUC pilot from BR1 phone, the dtmf tones are not recognized 
properly by CUC, i.e. BR1 phone cannot login to mailbox or select any other 
option via DTMF.  If I remove crtp, everything works fine.

 

Topology:

SCCP phone(BR1 site) à  g729r8 with crtp à CUCM à SIP trunk(with OOB and 
RFC2833 as dtmf options) à CUC

 

Things I have tried so far,

1)  All dtmf options in SIP trunk.

2)  Enabled mtp option

3)  In CUC, changed codec type to just g711u, just g729 and both(which is 
the default).

 

I found other posts on this issue but none of them has the solution. 

 

Thanks,

Tapan

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq

2012-06-11 Thread Bill Lake
Well that is true unless you drop the packets while doing QOS : )

From:  Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.com
Date:  Monday, June 11, 2012 4:17 PM
To:  Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com
Cc:  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject:  Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed
br1-Hq

Qos doesn't stop calls from completing - it just impacts how packets are
prioritized for sending / dropping / etc. CAC and qos work together. If you
admit a call on a maxed-out link, all the calls will degrade not just the
new call. QOS can help keep non-voice traffic from impacting voice traffic.
CAC keeps voice traffic from impacting other voice traffic.  In your case,
it depends where you press hold, if you're using MOH, and where the MOH
source is. If you pressed hold on the branch phone, then the HQ phone
connected to music at HQ. There was no media traversing the wan for the
first call while held.

DQ
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On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thank you Dan for providing me the detail info. I assumed the same but not
 sure with my hypothesis. I am wondering if this is the case, then wan qos will
 not be able to do much isn't it... for instance yesterday i configured
 llq-cbfwq with bandwidth of 28 for rtp traffic between hq and br1. And, when i
 called the 5002 from 1002 the call went thru, and this call put on hold and
 placed another call and it works fine as well. So, from this analysis can i
 come to conclusion that only location based cac, or rsvp cac can only the
 number of calls between these two sites???
 
 Thank you
 Krishna.
 
   
  
  
   
 
   From: Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.com
  To: Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] no trace found but calls get routed br1-Hq
   
  
 You answered your own question. Both DNs are registered to CUCM and are in
 partitions that the other's CSS can see. The signaling is between each phone
 and UCM. The media is built directly phone to phone. If CAC failed the call
 setup, then AAR could be invoked to use the PSTN. Since CAC allows the call,
 the gateways aren't involved in the call (other than providing IP network
 connectivity.)
 
 DQ
 d...@cisco.com
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 11, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Krishna vinayak_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I couldn't understand the call flow between HQ and BR1 which are
 provisioned/registed in the cucm. here is the detail structure:
 
 HQ-phone1 -5002 
 css-hq-international
 pt-pt-internal
 
 BR1-phone1-1002
 css-br1-ld
 pt-pt-internal
 
 Both phones are residing in the partition pt-internal, and br1 is a mgcp site
 and whereas the hq is the h323 site. when i call 1002 from 5002 or vice versa
 the call works fine, but when i enable deb isdn q931 or deb voip dialp, i
 dont see anything. Whereas when i enable RSVP based CAC, i can see the traces
 with the show sccp connections.
 
 could any one help me out how the calls are working in between these two. is
 it because the phones are registered to cucm, but logically in a different
 device pool and therefore it routes directly on cucm your help is much
 appreciated.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Krishna.
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