Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] What do I 'really need' - home lab

2010-12-03 Thread groganhockey
Josh,

I was in the same boat when I began my studies. Ultimately, my lab existed
in about 3 phases:
Phase 1:
3x 1720s
1x 2600xm
1x 2600
1x 3640
1x 3500xl
4x 7940

This allowed me to do the basic UCM configuration, but DSP configuration was
based on the older config style, and CME/CUE support was limited to older
versions. I quickly found myself frustrated with the limitations,
particularly when trying to work through the IPExpert labs.

Phase 2:
I was able to borrow a couple of 2800s (one with CUE and switch HWIC), and
re-arrange the lab setup. This allowed me to replicate more of the lab
materials, although I still had to be cognizant of HW/SW limitations while
testing and troubleshooting. I used this setup for the majority of my
studies.
One of the main limitations of this setup was the flexibility in practicing
different lab scenarios. Any revision of the PSTN router configuration would
end up being a mini-lab by itself, which, while valuable, took away from
time dedicated to other topics.

Phase 3:
I went completely online with proctor labs. I went virtual for about the
last 2 weeks of my test prep. The biggest advantage for me was not wasting
time updating configurations and focusing on the tasks.



I think that it's most important to have similar hardware in this order:
PSTN
BR2
HQ
BR1


Having said that, my PSTN/WAN config was actually spread across 2x 1720s and
the 3640, however, so if you're willing to pick and choose the labs you work
on, you can drop the PSTN router to the tail end of that list.

Hope that helps!
mike

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Josh Kittle j...@ooglenetworks.comwrote:

 Ok guys so I'm pretty new to the CCIE Voice Lab Prep experience - starting
 to build the home lab.  I've read tons of stuff along the line of  'you need
 3x 2811's, etc and I've come to the group to ask - what do i REALLY need.
 Not so much cards, modules etc (although that feedback is much welcome and
 appreciated) - but from a router perspective.  Does HQ, and the BR sites
 each need to really be 2811's to run the scenarios?  Why not a 3725, etc? Is
 it hardware module support (lack thereof) - if so, for which modules give
 the grief as far as support goes? I know I can't skimp on everything - but
 certainly there have to be some compromises that could be made.  If there
 aren't - tell me why - that answer is just as valuable in the learning
 process.

 I'm just starting to browse the lab guides, so forgive me if this is
 covered elsewhere (and if so, kindly reference the location).

 Thanks guys!

 Josh

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thank you

2010-11-03 Thread groganhockey
Way to go, Mark!

I'm not sure that I would have been able to handle testing on Friday and not
getting results for four days! :)

mike

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com wrote:

 I want to say thank you to everyone on the OSL who has participated in any
 of my discussions or helped resolve issues that I encountered.  I went to
 San Jose for my second attempt on Friday and received the news yesterday
 that I passed.  CCIE #27384.

 Thanks,
 Mark

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] SRST Display ID 4 digits ANI

2010-10-21 Thread groganhockey
I'd guess that your phones are configured with E.164 numbers as the external
number mask.
Remember that in SRST mode, the External Number Mask gets configured as the
calling name for the SRST ephone, and you'll see this behavior.

mike


On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Afzal Bhutta azhar.bhu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello Folks,
 I have question in SRST mode.This is regarding Site-B which has H.323
 gateway configured.
 In SRST Site-B should be able to call  HQ Phones.The display ID should be 4
 digits ANI as caller ID.
 Testing:
 When  *I cal from 3001 to 2003 on phone-2003, I got below display,

 From +19723033001
   (3001)


 ISDN Q931 shows below out put

 Display i = '+19723033001'
 Calling Party Number i = 0x0080, '3001'
 Plan:Unknown, Type:Unknown
 Called Party Number i = 0xA1, '14082022003'
 Plan:ISDN, Type:National
 .Oct 17 23:17:50.702: ISDN Se0/0/0:23 Q931: RX - CALL_PROC pd = 8  callref
 = 0x808D
 Channel ID i = 0xA98383
 Exclusive, Channel 3


 Question:How  can i remove From field **From +19723033001* on
 HQ-phone-2003 display.The question requirement is 4 digits ANI as caller ID.

 Thanks
 *


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Passed! And I have 50 extra lab vouchers for sale

2010-10-20 Thread groganhockey
Congrats Jim!

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Jim Engel jim.en...@ironbow.com wrote:

  So happy to have passed!  J



 Anyone interested in purchasing any of my remaining vouchers please email
 me direct.



 jim.en...@ironbow.com





 Jim

 CCIE #6269 (Voice/RS)

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Order for arranging resources in MRGL

2010-10-06 Thread groganhockey
Sorry, let me try to explain with an example:

You have an MRGL with SW CFB (on UCM), MOH, SW MTP (on Router), and XCODE
resources available. If UCM needs to create a conference, it will select the
SW CFB. Ordering does not matter, because there aren't any other CFB
resources listed.

However, if UCM needs to allocate an MTP, keep in mind that XCODE resources
can be used as MTP, so the ordering of the MRG within the MRGL matters for
these two resources. Typically, you'd want to choose the SW MTP over the
XCODER (HW MTP), due to cost, so you would want to list the MRG with the
SW MTP above the MRG with the XCODER.

The SW CFB and MOH could be in either MRG, or in a completely separate MRG.



UCM can use all of the resources within an MRG at the same time for various
purposes, however similar resources within a single MRG will be round-robin
load balanced.
One or two of the IPExpert labs touches on this in reference to MOH
resources.

mike


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:32 PM, CCIE Voice GMAIL 
givemeccievoice2...@gmail.com wrote:

  Can you please elaborate on this statement “if you only have a single
 CFB, MOH, and MTP, you can list them in the same MRG because UCM won't can't
 use a CFB if you need to insert an MTP.”



 Are you saying that when in a MRG, having both a CFB and an MTP would
 result in only one resource being usable at a time?  Or are you saying that
 having a CFB and MTP in the same MRGL will result in one resource being
 usable at a time?



 I’m just confused at the wording.



 Thanks for your help,

 Jeff



 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *groganhockey
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:14 PM
 *To:* Pithog Oil
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Order for arranging resources in MRGL



 Keep in mind these guidelines when configuring MRGL:
 Resources are searched in the order listed in the MRGL, so if you insert
 three MRGs into the MRGL, UCM will search the first MRG for an appropriate
 resource, then search the second MRG, then search the third.

 Resources within an MRG are selected in a round-robin fashion.

 Ordering within the MRGL is only applicable to like-type of resources, so
 if you only have a single CFB, MOH, and MTP, you can list them in the same
 MRG because UCM won't can't use a CFB if you need to insert an MTP.

 mike

  On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Pithog Oil pithog...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi experts



 I know there is an Order for arranging arranging resources in the MRGL in a
 scenario where i have multiple resoucres in a site , but i need to figure
 out where Conference bridge fits in , in the order.



 Please correct me if wrong



 MOH first

 Transcoder second

 MTP third



 Also i while like to know if its possible to have a resources Glut.





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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Order for arranging resources in MRGL

2010-10-05 Thread groganhockey
Keep in mind these guidelines when configuring MRGL:
Resources are searched in the order listed in the MRGL, so if you insert
three MRGs into the MRGL, UCM will search the first MRG for an appropriate
resource, then search the second MRG, then search the third.

Resources within an MRG are selected in a round-robin fashion.

Ordering within the MRGL is only applicable to like-type of resources, so if
you only have a single CFB, MOH, and MTP, you can list them in the same MRG
because UCM won't can't use a CFB if you need to insert an MTP.

mike


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Pithog Oil pithog...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi experts

 I know there is an Order for arranging arranging resources in the MRGL in a
 scenario where i have multiple resoucres in a site , but i need to figure
 out where Conference bridge fits in , in the order.

 Please correct me if wrong

 MOH first
 Transcoder second
 MTP third

 Also i while like to know if its possible to have a resources Glut.




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Single Number Reach

2010-10-01 Thread groganhockey
If I'm following your example correctly, Mark, then you aren't hitting on
the  translation pattern.

The SNR call is matching the \+1408.6347694 RP, to go out, why would it be
hitting the translation pattern? Perhaps you meant to configure this as a
Calling Party Transformation?

mike


On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com wrote:

 I'm having a hard time when an internal extension calls another internal
 extension that uses SNR, the From phone number on the PSTN phone is 4
 digits instead of 7.  For example, extension 2001 calls 2003, and 2003
 simultaneously rings a PSTN phone number.  The display on the PSTN phone
 says HqPh1 (2001) instead of the 7 digit or 10 digit number.

 I have created PT_SNR which is assigned to CSS_SNR.  I have CSS_SNR
 assigned to the Remote Destination Profile for both CSS and Redirecting CSS.
  My SNR number is +14086347694 and I have a route pattern that contains
 \+1408.6347694 which egresses the RL_HQ_ONLY (this is not Standard Local
 Route Group).  I also created a Translation Pattern  with PT_SNR and I
 have checked Use External Phone Number Mask.  I was expecting this to take
 the 4 digit Calling number and insert the External mask instead. I tried
 following the steps in the Mock Lab guide (I believe it is Lab 6) but I
 still cannot get it working.  Any assistance would be appreciated.  Perhaps
 someone has a blog post?

 Thanks,
 Mark

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Pass

2010-09-22 Thread groganhockey
Congrats Jeff!

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Jeff Cotter jcot...@voxns.com wrote:

  Finally….took more times than I care to admit!  A big thanks to IPexpert
 (especially Vic) and everybody who has been a part of this list.



 Jeff Cotter

 CCIE #27033







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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] I've got a new favorite number!

2010-09-16 Thread groganhockey
Thanks, everybody.

I'd just like to re-iterate my thanks to the IPExpert folks and the study
materials that they have put together. They really are top notch. Vik and
Amy's video walkthroughs in conjuction with the written Proctor Guides are
extremely thorough and clearly do a great job to prepare you for the lab.

Just look at all the people who have passed in the last few months!

Thanks!
mike


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Ashar Siddiqui siddas...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well done! Congrats..

 Ash
 CCIE#26244 (Voice)

 groganhockey wrote:

 26966!

 I'm not sure how often it'll come up in everyday life, but there it is.

 I took the lab Monday in RTP and finally got my score report last night.

 IPExpert/Vik/Amy: Thank you for the excellent study guides, walkthroughs,
 audio and everything!

 Mike
 CCIE #26966 Voice



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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] I've got a new favorite number!

2010-09-15 Thread groganhockey
26966!

I'm not sure how often it'll come up in everyday life, but there it is.

I took the lab Monday in RTP and finally got my score report last night.

IPExpert/Vik/Amy: Thank you for the excellent study guides, walkthroughs,
audio and everything!

Mike
CCIE #26966 Voice
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] I've got a new favorite number!

2010-09-15 Thread groganhockey
In our case, they actually brought lunch in and we ate in an adjoining
conference room rather than head to the cafeteria. At the time, I didn't
think to ask if it was out of character for RTP or not?

mike


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  Bill,

 Lunch is usually between 30-45 minutes.  During this time you will likely
 be escorted by the proctor to the cafeteria and will remain as a group.  I
 am not sure taking a walk on your own will be an option for you.

 HTH,
 Amy

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 Congratulations on your passing the exam.

 Not sure if it is a question you can answer (Don't break the Cisco NDA) but
 how long did you get for lunch?

 I am planning on my exam and since it is a long day, I am wondering if you
 had time to walk during lunch to help relieve the stress and boost your
 brain.



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] SCCP to SIP conversion on CME

2010-09-14 Thread groganhockey
You need a LOAD statement under voice register global.

mike


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:43 AM, linuxboss.9 linuxbos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I used below configuration to register 7961GE as SIP to CME but it is
 showing as SCCP registered.

 I have all the SIP firmware in root directory of flash.


 It should start downloading the SIP firmware but there is no action..there
 are no debug messages because the phone is already SCCP registered.


 Did switch port shut/no shut ..no change. Can anyone guide me where I am
 wrong.


 voice service voip

  allow-connections sip to sip

  fax protocol cisco

  sip

   bind control source-interface GigabitEthernet0/0.11

   bind media source-interface GigabitEthernet0/0.11

   registrar server expires max 1200 min 300

 voice register global

  mode cme

  source-address 10.21.200.1 port 5060

  max-dn 10

  max-pool 5

  load 7961GE SIP41.8-5-4S

  authenticate register

  tftp-path flash:

  create profile sync 0005355132715547

 voice register dn  1

  number 

  name Br2Ph2

  label Br2 

 voice register pool  1

  id mac 0AAA.F999.D562

  type 7961GE

  number 1 dn 1

  dtmf-relay sip-notify

  username br2ph2 password cisco

  codec g711ulaw

 R3#confi

 R3#configure t

 R3#configure terminal

 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.

 R3(config)#voic

 R3(config)#voice re

 R3(config)#voice register poo

 R3(config)#voice register pool 1

 R3(config-register-pool)#restart

 *No contact info available for pool 1.*

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] SCCP to SIP conversion on CME

2010-09-14 Thread groganhockey
Awesome..can't quite see straight today.

Glad to hear that you got it working. I do believe I saw (in the IPExpert
blog after the CCIE Voice techtorial?) that Ben Ng stated that the phones
would be setup with the correct firmware, so conversion shouldn't be an
issue.

Always good to know the process, though.

mike


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:11 PM, linuxboss.9 linuxbos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Amy..Brian..Mike et all,

 Thanks to all for your responses.

 no create profile
 create profile

 commands under voice register global resolved the issue.

 I provided wrong tftp-server parameters before. Instead of cleaning it I
 tried to troubleshoot it in the existing state which took around 5 hours.
 Nevertheless a good exercise. Now I am SCCP-SIP conversion specialist :-)

 Have a wonderful day !

 -Shrini




 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Brian Valentine 
 bkvalent...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gig0/0.11 is 10.21.200.1?  You might want to make that the source
 address for your tftp server.

 Looks like the LOAD statement is already there, but you need to serve
 the files via tftp.  you also need an ntp server command under voice
 register global.  Make sure the firmware files are served up using the
 tftp-server global config commands.

 I will typically look in the root of the flash drive for the
 SEPMAC.cnf or .cnf.xml files... delete any you find.  Make sure you
 leave the defaults there.. just delete the ones with specific MAC
 addresses. Then under voice register global, offer the no create
 prof and then issue the create prof commands.  See if you have any
 more SEPMAC.cnf or .cnf.xml files.  If not, something is wrong in
 your config.  You can debug tftp events while the phone reboots to
 watch and see what it is downloading for your tftp server.  If you
 aren't getting anything when the phone boots, you might not have it
 pointed at the right IP address in your dhcp scope.

 Any time you change anything at the DN, Pool, or global levels, you
 should go to the voice register global and issue the same commands no
 create prof and then create prof before you restart your pools.
 SCCP phones don't require the create cnf-files every time, but sip
 phones do require the create profile to be issued with every change.

 Hope some of that helps.

 As an aside, you should also replace the dtmf-relay sip-notify
 command with dtmf-relay rtp-nte in the voice register pool.  I don't
 think this is your problem with the phones registering as SCCP, but it
 will help save your hours more troubleshooting later.

 Brian

 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:23 PM, groganhockey groganhoc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  You need a LOAD statement under voice register global.
 
  mike
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:43 AM, linuxboss.9 linuxbos...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I used below configuration to register 7961GE as SIP to CME but it is
  showing as SCCP registered.
 
  I have all the SIP firmware in root directory of flash.
 
  It should start downloading the SIP firmware but there is no
 action..there
  are no debug messages because the phone is already SCCP registered.
 
  Did switch port shut/no shut ..no change. Can anyone guide me where I
 am
  wrong.
 
  voice service voip
 
   allow-connections sip to sip
 
   fax protocol cisco
 
   sip
 
bind control source-interface GigabitEthernet0/0.11
 
bind media source-interface GigabitEthernet0/0.11
 
registrar server expires max 1200 min 300
 
  voice register global
 
   mode cme
 
   source-address 10.21.200.1 port 5060
 
   max-dn 10
 
   max-pool 5
 
   load 7961GE SIP41.8-5-4S
 
   authenticate register
 
   tftp-path flash:
 
   create profile sync 0005355132715547
 
  voice register dn  1
 
   number 
 
   name Br2Ph2
 
   label Br2 
 
  voice register pool  1
 
   id mac 0AAA.F999.D562
 
   type 7961GE
 
   number 1 dn 1
 
   dtmf-relay sip-notify
 
   username br2ph2 password cisco
 
   codec g711ulaw
 
  R3#confi
 
  R3#configure t
 
  R3#configure terminal
 
  Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 
  R3(config)#voic
 
  R3(config)#voice re
 
  R3(config)#voice register poo
 
  R3(config)#voice register pool 1
 
  R3(config-register-pool)#restart
 
  No contact info available for pool 1.
 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Proctorlabs Down?

2010-09-09 Thread groganhockey
or is it just me?

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] extension Mobility

2010-09-08 Thread groganhockey
Yes, you can. They will show up and act as a shared line.

Is the system prompting you for a PIN, or what specifically?

mike

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Leslie Meade lme...@signal.ca wrote:

 Can you have the same number both as an extension mobility number as well
 as a normal number on a phone ?

 I get the user logged into mobility but when they try to log out I get
 please enter the admin password, instead of a logout button .



 Cheers



 Leslie



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cant get to PSTN router / BR1 / BR2

2010-09-06 Thread groganhockey
Nope, just wrapped up a session with no disconnects.

mike


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:30 PM, chase mergenthal cm3_...@hotmail.comwrote:

  I'm not sure what happened; but my connection to the PSTN router / BR1 /
 BR2 dropped in my lab session and i cant reconnect; anyone else having
 problems?
 -Chase

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call-Manger-Fallback

2010-09-02 Thread groganhockey
I think this is the Connection Monitor Duration paramter under UCM
Enterprise Parameters.

mike

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Damon Chaput dcha...@1800contacts.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I am working on Vol 2 Lab 3 section 3.1.  When I take the WAN down,
 fallback works as expected and occurs immediately. When I bring the WAN back
 up MGCP kicks back in very quickly and the gateway registers right away. For
 the phones,  it takes over a minute and a half after MGCP backhaul is
 complete.  Just curious if there are any timers to adjust so the phones will
 recognize that the WAN is back up and register back to CUCM quicker. I tried
 adjusting the “ Keepalive” seconds to 10 under call-manager-fallback but it
 didn’t seem to make a difference.





 Sep  2 17:39:46.958: ISDN Se0/0/0:15 Q931: L3_ShutDown: Shutting down ISDN
 Layer 3

 Sep  2 17:39:46.958: %ISDN-6-LAYER2DOWN: Layer 2 for Interface Se0/0/0:15,
 TEI 0 changed to down

 Sep  2 17:39:46.962: ISDN Se0/0/0:15 Q931: Ux_DLRelInd: DL_REL_IND received
 from L2

 Sep  2 17:39:48.950: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Serial0/0/0:15, changed
 state to administratively down

 Sep  2 17:39:53.370: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0/0:15, changed
 state to up

 Sep  2 17:39:53.370: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0/0:0, changed state
 to down

 Sep  2 17:39:53.370: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0/0:1, changed state
 to down

 Sep  2 17:39:53.370: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0/0:2, changed state
 to down

 Sep  2 17:39:55.871: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface Se0/0/0:15,
 TEI 0 changed to up

 Sep  2 17:41:35.240: %IPPHONE-6-UNREGISTER_NORMAL: ephone-1:SEP0014A9816FDB
 IP:10.10.202.50 Socket:2 DeviceType:Phone has unregistered normally.

 Sep  2 17:41:35.272: %IPPHONE-6-UNREGISTER_NORMAL: ephone-2:SEP0014A98BBB7F
 IP:10.10.202.57 Socket:3 DeviceType:Phone has unregistered normally.

 Sep  2 17:41:35.464: %IPPHONE-6-UNREGISTER_NORMAL: ephone-3:SEP0014A9739190
 IP:10.10.202.58 Socket:4 DeviceType:Phone has unregistered normally.

 Sep  2 17:41:45.492: %IPPHONE-6-UNREGISTER_NORMAL: ephone-4:SEP002290BAA05B
 IP:10.10.202.56 Socket:1 DeviceType:Phone has unregistered normally.





 Thanks,
 Damon Chaput



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Docs available during the lab

2010-08-31 Thread groganhockey
According to the most recent Ask the Expert with Ben Ng, there are four
documents on the desktop:

We have four SRND documents ready to be opened, also you have the online
Cisco document page.



1. UC 7 SRND

2. CUCME 7 SRND

3. UCCX 7 SRND

4. Enterprise QoS SRND 3.3




On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Carhart, David dcarh...@lvbrands.comwrote:

 Does anyone no where I can get a list of the docs that you are provided for
 the voice lab?

 Thanks

 David Carhart
 dcarh...@lvbrands.com



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Docs available during the lab

2010-08-31 Thread groganhockey
Amy,

I wasn't sure if Ben meant the CME Admin Guide (which is more helpful than
the SRND, I think) in the Ask the Expert forum.

Does anybody know for sure?

mike


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Amy Ryan ar...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 David,

 Based on the voice techtorial offered at Cisco Live this year, below is
 what
 was identified.

 -Unity Connection Administration Guide
 -QOS SRND
 -CUCME Administration Guide
 -CUCM SRND
 -UCCX SRND

 And you will have access to the cisco product/technology support page.

 HTH,
 Amy



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  From: Carhart, David dcarh...@lvbrands.com
  Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:33:40 -0400
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Docs available during the lab
 
  Does anyone no where I can get a list of the docs that you are provided
 for
  the voice lab?
 
  Thanks
 
  David Carhart
  dcarh...@lvbrands.com
 
 
 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Docs available during the lab

2010-08-31 Thread groganhockey
And the URL for the Product / Technology support page is:
http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/psa/default.html?mode=prod



On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:54 PM, groganhockey groganhoc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Amy,

 I wasn't sure if Ben meant the CME Admin Guide (which is more helpful than
 the SRND, I think) in the Ask the Expert forum.

 Does anybody know for sure?

 mike



 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Amy Ryan ar...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 David,

 Based on the voice techtorial offered at Cisco Live this year, below is
 what
 was identified.

 -Unity Connection Administration Guide
 -QOS SRND
 -CUCME Administration Guide
 -CUCM SRND
 -UCCX SRND

 And you will have access to the cisco product/technology support page.

 HTH,
 Amy



 ---
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 Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 Mailto: ar...@ipexpert.com
 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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 http://www.ipexpert.com/chat
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 Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at
 www.ipexpert.com/communities http://www.ipexpert.com/communities  and
 our
 public website at www.ipexpert.com http://www.ipexpert.com/



  From: Carhart, David dcarh...@lvbrands.com
  Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:33:40 -0400
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Docs available during the lab
 
  Does anyone no where I can get a list of the docs that you are provided
 for
  the voice lab?
 
  Thanks
 
  David Carhart
  dcarh...@lvbrands.com
 
 
 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Vol2 Lab6 CME to UC SIP Integration

2010-08-30 Thread groganhockey
All,

Working through a SIP integration between UCME and UC using SIP, and I've
got a couple of issues versus how the solutions guide lays out the solution.

Item 1.4 states Make sure that calls within the HQ or BR1 site use g711ulaw
and calls between sites use g729.  (1 pt)

But in item 6.2, the solution shows the SIP dial-peer to the UC server with
codec g711ulaw.


Calls from BR2 to voicemail at HQ are now using g711ulaw, so haven't we just
cost ourselves a point? (Better 1 point than the 4 points for the SIP UC
integration I guess).


I have been trying to work around this issue by various means, but haven't
come up with a solution yet.

I have hardcoded the UC dial-peer to g729
Because BR2 has SIP phones, I have registered a transcoder to UCME at BR2,
and the call to voicemail from the SIP phones invokes the transcoder
correctly.

The specific issue that I'm facing is if I dial by extension within the Main
Greeting, UC transfers the call back to BR2, but the call is rejected. I can
get around this specific limitation by configuring voice-class codec on the
UC dial-peer, but then the SIP phone uses g711u straight to UC.

Here's the debug ccsip messages from the call when UC tries to send the call
back to 3001.

BR2#
BR2#sh sccp conn
sess_idconn_id  stype mode codec   sport rport ripaddr

1  1xcode sendrecv g72917442 2000  10.10.202.1
1  2xcode sendrecv g711u   17630 2000  10.10.202.1

Total number of active session(s) 1, and connection(s) 2

BR2#
BR2#
BR2#
BR2#
BR2#
BR2#
BR2#
Aug 31 03:14:11.319: //-1//SIP/Msg/ccsipDisplayMsg:
Received:
INVITE sip:3...@10.10.110.3:5060 SIP/2.0
From: sip:3...@10.10.210.12 sip%3a3...@10.10.210.12
;tag=b479d639c3b54f96995687a535357a46
To: BR2 Phone3 sip:3...@10.10.110.3 sip%3a3...@10.10.110.3
;tag=91A708-25BC
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.210.12:5060
;branch=z9hG4bKb9702a2ec4174a48916a263f9434aa8b
Max-Forwards: 70
User-Agent: Cisco-UnityConnection/7.0
Contact: sip:10.10.210.12:5060;transport=tcp
Call-ID: a01a55e6-b3e411df-81e98f0a-3d3c3...@10.10.110.3
CSeq: 2 INVITE
Allow-Events: kpml
Allow: ACK,BYE,CANCEL,INVITE,NOTIFY,OPTIONS,REFER,REGISTER,SUBSCRIBE
Content-Length: 256
Content-Type: application/sdp

v=0
o=10.10.210.12 3324197134 3324197134 IN IP4 10.10.210.12
s=No Subject
c=IN IP4 0.0.0.0
t=0 0
m=audio 16702 RTP/AVP 0 18 101
a=rtpmap:0 pcmu/8000
a=ptime:20
a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000
a=ptime:20
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
a=fmtp:101 0-15

Aug 31 03:14:11.331: //-1//SIP/Msg/ccsipDisplayMsg:
Sent:
SIP/2.0 100 Trying
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:14:11 GMT
From: sip:3...@10.10.210.12 sip%3a3...@10.10.210.12
;tag=b479d639c3b54f96995687a535357a46
Allow-Events: telephone-event
Content-Length: 0
To: BR2 Phone3 sip:3...@10.10.110.3 sip%3a3...@10.10.110.3
;tag=91A708-25BC
Call-ID: a01a55e6-b3e411df-81e98f0a-3d3c3...@10.10.110.3
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.210.12:5060
;branch=z9hG4bKb9702a2ec4174a48916a263f9434aa8b
CSeq: 2 INVITE
Server: Cisco-SIPGateway/IOS-12.x


Aug 31 03:14:11.331: //-1//SIP/Msg/ccsipDisplayMsg:
Sent:
SIP/2.0 488 Not Acceptable Media
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:14:11 GMT
From: sip:3...@10.10.210.12 sip%3a3...@10.10.210.12
;tag=b479d639c3b54f96995687a535357a46
Allow-Events: telephone-event
Content-Length: 0
To: BR2 Phone3 sip:3...@10.10.110.3 sip%3a3...@10.10.110.3
;tag=91A708-25BC
Call-ID: a01a55e6-b3e411df-81e98f0a-3d3c3...@10.10.110.3
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.210.12:5060
;branch=z9hG4bKb9702a2ec4174a48916a263f9434aa8b
CSeq: 2 INVITE
Server: Cisco-SIPGateway/IOS-12.x


Aug 31 03:14:11.343: //-1//SIP/Msg/ccsipDisplayMsg:
Received:
ACK sip:3...@10.10.110.3:5060 SIP/2.0
From: sip:3...@10.10.210.12 sip%3a3...@10.10.210.12
;tag=b479d639c3b54f96995687a535357a46
To: BR2 Phone3 sip:3...@10.10.110.3 sip%3a3...@10.10.110.3
;tag=91A708-25BC
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.210.12:5060
;branch=z9hG4bKb9702a2ec4174a48916a263f9434aa8b
Max-Forwards: 70
User-Agent: Cisco-UnityConnection/7.0
Call-ID: a01a55e6-b3e411df-81e98f0a-3d3c3...@10.10.110.3
CSeq: 2 ACK
Content-Length: 0


BR2#


Is there a way to make this work?

mike
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Vol2 Lab6 CME to UC SIP Integration

2010-08-30 Thread groganhockey
Actually, I found a workaround to get this working correctly.

voice service voip
sip
 g729 annexb-all

This allows the call to setup and complete successfully between SCCP and SIP
endpoints at BR2 (as long as there is a transcoder for the SIP phones).

mike


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, groganhockey groganhoc...@gmail.comwrote:

 All,

 Working through a SIP integration between UCME and UC using SIP, and I've
 got a couple of issues versus how the solutions guide lays out the solution.

 Item 1.4 states Make sure that calls within the HQ or BR1 site use
 g711ulaw and calls between sites use g729.  (1 pt)

 But in item 6.2, the solution shows the SIP dial-peer to the UC server with
 codec g711ulaw.


 Calls from BR2 to voicemail at HQ are now using g711ulaw, so haven't we
 just cost ourselves a point? (Better 1 point than the 4 points for the SIP
 UC integration I guess).


 I have been trying to work around this issue by various means, but haven't
 come up with a solution yet.

 I have hardcoded the UC dial-peer to g729
 Because BR2 has SIP phones, I have registered a transcoder to UCME at BR2,
 and the call to voicemail from the SIP phones invokes the transcoder
 correctly.

 The specific issue that I'm facing is if I dial by extension within the
 Main Greeting, UC transfers the call back to BR2, but the call is rejected.
 I can get around this specific limitation by configuring voice-class codec
 on the UC dial-peer, but then the SIP phone uses g711u straight to UC.

 Here's the debug ccsip messages from the call when UC tries to send the
 call back to 3001.

 BR2#
 BR2#sh sccp conn
 sess_idconn_id  stype mode codec   sport rport ripaddr

 1  1xcode sendrecv g72917442 2000  10.10.202.1
 1  2xcode sendrecv g711u   17630 2000  10.10.202.1

 Total number of active session(s) 1, and connection(s) 2

 BR2#
 BR2#
 BR2#
 BR2#
 BR2#
 BR2#
 BR2#
 Aug 31 03:14:11.319: //-1//SIP/Msg/ccsipDisplayMsg:
 Received:
 INVITE sip:3...@10.10.110.3:5060 SIP/2.0
 From: sip:3...@10.10.210.12 sip%3a3...@10.10.210.12
 ;tag=b479d639c3b54f96995687a535357a46
 To: BR2 Phone3 sip:3...@10.10.110.3 sip%3a3...@10.10.110.3
 ;tag=91A708-25BC
 Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.210.12:5060
 ;branch=z9hG4bKb9702a2ec4174a48916a263f9434aa8b
 Max-Forwards: 70
 User-Agent: Cisco-UnityConnection/7.0
 Contact: sip:10.10.210.12:5060;transport=tcp
 Call-ID: a01a55e6-b3e411df-81e98f0a-3d3c3...@10.10.110.3
 CSeq: 2 INVITE
 Allow-Events: kpml
 Allow: ACK,BYE,CANCEL,INVITE,NOTIFY,OPTIONS,REFER,REGISTER,SUBSCRIBE
 Content-Length: 256
 Content-Type: application/sdp

 v=0
 o=10.10.210.12 3324197134 3324197134 IN IP4 10.10.210.12
 s=No Subject
 c=IN IP4 0.0.0.0
 t=0 0
 m=audio 16702 RTP/AVP 0 18 101
 a=rtpmap:0 pcmu/8000
 a=ptime:20
 a=rtpmap:18 G729/8000
 a=ptime:20
 a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
 a=fmtp:101 0-15

 Aug 31 03:14:11.331: //-1//SIP/Msg/ccsipDisplayMsg:
 Sent:
 SIP/2.0 100 Trying
 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:14:11 GMT
 From: sip:3...@10.10.210.12 sip%3a3...@10.10.210.12
 ;tag=b479d639c3b54f96995687a535357a46
 Allow-Events: telephone-event
 Content-Length: 0
 To: BR2 Phone3 sip:3...@10.10.110.3 sip%3a3...@10.10.110.3
 ;tag=91A708-25BC
 Call-ID: a01a55e6-b3e411df-81e98f0a-3d3c3...@10.10.110.3
 Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.210.12:5060
 ;branch=z9hG4bKb9702a2ec4174a48916a263f9434aa8b
 CSeq: 2 INVITE
 Server: Cisco-SIPGateway/IOS-12.x


 Aug 31 03:14:11.331: //-1//SIP/Msg/ccsipDisplayMsg:
 Sent:
 SIP/2.0 488 Not Acceptable Media
 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:14:11 GMT
 From: sip:3...@10.10.210.12 sip%3a3...@10.10.210.12
 ;tag=b479d639c3b54f96995687a535357a46
 Allow-Events: telephone-event
 Content-Length: 0
 To: BR2 Phone3 sip:3...@10.10.110.3 sip%3a3...@10.10.110.3
 ;tag=91A708-25BC
 Call-ID: a01a55e6-b3e411df-81e98f0a-3d3c3...@10.10.110.3
 Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.210.12:5060
 ;branch=z9hG4bKb9702a2ec4174a48916a263f9434aa8b
 CSeq: 2 INVITE
 Server: Cisco-SIPGateway/IOS-12.x


 Aug 31 03:14:11.343: //-1//SIP/Msg/ccsipDisplayMsg:
 Received:
 ACK sip:3...@10.10.110.3:5060 SIP/2.0
 From: sip:3...@10.10.210.12 sip%3a3...@10.10.210.12
 ;tag=b479d639c3b54f96995687a535357a46
 To: BR2 Phone3 sip:3...@10.10.110.3 sip%3a3...@10.10.110.3
 ;tag=91A708-25BC
 Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.210.12:5060
 ;branch=z9hG4bKb9702a2ec4174a48916a263f9434aa8b
 Max-Forwards: 70
 User-Agent: Cisco-UnityConnection/7.0
 Call-ID: a01a55e6-b3e411df-81e98f0a-3d3c3...@10.10.110.3
 CSeq: 2 ACK
 Content-Length: 0


 BR2#


 Is there a way to make this work?

 mike


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ProctorLabs IPCC license file location?

2010-08-29 Thread groganhockey
Unfortunately, none of my servers was being reloaded when I requested a
reload. :(

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Ohamien Uhakheme oham...@gmail.com wrote:

 Email support and they will mail you the file, or you can load Vol 2 Lab 1,
 and it should be on the root of C:

 Ohamien

 On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:01 PM, groganhockey groganhoc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Am I missing it? I don't see it on the IPCC server?

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Proctorlabs not resolving

2010-08-29 Thread groganhockey
Tyson,

I had my first session on PL on Friday night, and this was one of the issues
that I ran into. I could not get the servers to reload no matter what I
tried (it seemed).

I had another session scheduled for this morning, but cancelled it as a
result of the frustrating session I had on Friday. Lucky for me, I have a
pretty good home lab, so I can do quite a bit of testing and scenarios on my
own equipment, at my leisure. My lab is a mix of current and previous
generation(s) of equipment, however, so I can't simply copy and paste the
IOS configs into my own gear.

There are two reasons that I chose to purchase PL rack time:
1. Convenience of loading the various IPExpert scenarios.
2. Access to a full lab of the actual equipment.

What are your recommendations in the short term in the event that the
servers will not reload?

Thanks,
mike


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Tyson Scott tsc...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 Bill,

 Unfortunately the servers are the number one issue for voice customers that
 we can't provide a good solution to in the event these problems happen
 again.  To provide what you are suggesting below we would have to give
 administrative access to the VMware servers.

 I will give you the honest answer as to why would never do it.  At least 1
 or 2 times a month someone deletes the flash on the routers/switches in the
 pod.  This is annoying but manageable as the files are small and we can
 simply upload them via the USB interface or xmodem them on the switches.
 recovering a server after someone makes an accidental mistake is not so
 easily achieved.  And it is easy enough to wipe out a datastore with
 intended or unintended actions.  The datastore per server is 1.5 TB.  Not
 as
 easy/quick of a problem to resolve.

 Regards,

 Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 RS, Security, and SP
 Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
 Mailto: tsc...@ipexpert.com
 Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
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 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lake
 Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:15 PM
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Proctorlabs not resolving

 Hello,

 I would have to agree that not being able to load the servers
 especially is an issue.  To work the voice labs you must have the
 servers available and configured properly for the lab.  While we could
 use the downloaded configurations for the routers/switch, we can not
 do so for the servers. Also, just having the servers on does not allow
 us to remotely load the server configurations as those backups/configs
 are not supplied in the Proctor Labs voice section.

 Perhaps as a backup Proctor Labs can provide instructions to power on
 the servers remotely without the web page, how to get and load the
 configurations for the servers and at that point it could be a
 solutions that we could use to work our voice labs.

 Bill
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] ProctorLabs IPCC license file location?

2010-08-27 Thread groganhockey
Am I missing it? I don't see it on the IPCC server?
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper-Controlled ICT MTP

2010-08-17 Thread groganhockey
All,

I'm trying to understand a behavior I'm seeing in setting up a GK-controlled
ICT between UCM clusters.

When I place a call across the GK-ICT, the receiving cluster attempts to
allocate an MTP for the call.
On the trunk:
MTP Required is not checked
Inbound/Outbound Fast Start are not checked


From reviewing the traces, I see the MediaManager and
MediaTerminationPointControl services working to allocate an MTP, so it does
not appear to be a transcoding issue. It appears that the software MTP
allocation fails and the system allocates a HW transcoder.

This is confirmed if I set the regions to all G711. The call still invokes a
transcoder, but the streams are both reported as g711u.

If I take the transcoders offline, the call completes without the
transcoder, with the media stream directly between the two phones, albeit
there are supplementary services issues.

Is this a function of the GK-ICT in general? Or is the UCM trying to add an
MTP for additional capabilities?

Any thoughts are welcome while I continue to test.

mike
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE #26721 - I PASSED!

2010-08-17 Thread groganhockey
Congratulations, Matthew. You're a great inspiration and you have made great
contributions to the list and via your blog!

mike


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Matthew Berry ciscovoiceg...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just got my score report. I passed guys.

 More follow-up to come later.  Right now I'm now on cloud nine. :)

 CCIE #26271

 Thanks,

 Matthew Berry
 ciscovoiceg...@gmail.com
 http://ciscovoiceguru.com

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Choosing the right ISR?

2009-09-24 Thread groganhockey
I'm just glad I can finally contribute *something* to these discussions! :)

FYI, cisco has moved the doc in the past, so make sure you remember the
title in case it moves again.

mike


On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:38 AM, shikamaru shikam...@kagadis.com wrote:

 MUCH respect, Mike.  This is the perfect document for this kind of
 question.  Thank you.


 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:29 PM, mike deal groganhoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've used this document in the past for sizing purposes:

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps259/product_data_sheet0900aecd8057f2e0.pdf

 mike


   On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Nara Shikamaru 
 shikam...@kagadis.comwrote:

   I had no idea there was a PRI limit.  I was thinking, potentially, I
 may need to terminate 8 PRIs on a 2811 but in truth I'm planning on having 3
 2811 for redundancy and spread the span against all three.  Plenty of ports
 between them.

 I guess my question was also whether the 2811 can handle this kind of
 scenario, but then if it couldn't I don't think Cisco would allow for 4 PRIs
 to be terminated to it.  I'll ask my AM tomorrow.  Thanks, Michael.

   On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Michael Ciarfello 
 mciarfe...@iplogic.com wrote:

  Each ISR router is supposed to only be able to handle X number of PRIs
 (not physical, more CPU / resource load wise.)  I would work with your 
 Cisco
 AM to have them help you detemine what the limits and loading are.

 I can't find what documents discussed it. I know I came across a
 third-party testing report (Mircom maybe.) that had like max 4 PRIs on a
 2811.  My number might be off, but there was a limit.  That's why I would
 suggest working with your Cisco AM--they should be able to help with those
 numbers.

 If you are a partner, the PDI helpdesk should be able to help.  If not,
 then that's what the AM will help you with. Not sure if TAC would assist
 with these design questions, but you can always try.
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 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Nara Shikamaru [
 shikam...@kagadis.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:01 PM
 *To:* OSL Group
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Choosing the right ISR?

   Okay, my question is not really out of the modules, just a question
 about a real world scenario.  I'm preparing to increase the size of our 
 VoIP
 network and am aware of the principle differences between the ISRs. Our
 remote sites will have subscribers, so SRST is not really an issue, and the
 ISRs are only being used to terminate PRIs and will not be used to route
 data VLAN traffic. This being the case, are there caveats to using 2811
 routers with 8 VWIC ports? I don't really know what to expect by way of
 offnet traffic, but have had success with the 2811 line and am wondering if
 I can repurpose for the new network and not have too much to worry about.

 Also, I am planning on configuring some hardware conferencing but I have
 no idea yet how popular it will be, no transcoding is planned as our sites
 are currently all on G711.




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