Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame Relay Traffic Shaping
Yes FRTS uses average traffic shaping. Peak shaping can't be achieved in FRTS. Now setting Be to zero depends on the requirement. Zero means that you won't exceed your CIR. But if it has a value then you can exceed the CIR based on debt and compound debt concept as in policing with be value (single color dual bucket). Regards, Mohammed Al Baqari From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of datucha123 datucha123 Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:49 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame Relay Traffic Shaping As I guess the FRTS uses the Average Shaping method, am I right? Also, when using shaping, either FRTS or any other variant, we have to always set Be to 0, when the Voice is also traversing that Shaper. Correct? ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame Relay Traffic Shaping
I was trying to understand if the two configuration below achieve the same thing. If not, what's the difference? Configuration A: map-class frame-relay FRTS frame-relay cir 768000 frame-relay bc 7680 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 768000 Configuration B: map-class frame-relay FRTS service-policy out policy_shape ! policy-map policy_shape class class-default shape average 768000 7680 0 Thanks! Michael ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame Relay Traffic Shaping
A is Frame Relay traffic shaping and the other is class based shaping. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Michael Luo hout...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to understand if the two configuration below achieve the same thing. If not, what's the difference? Configuration A: map-class frame-relay FRTS frame-relay cir 768000 frame-relay bc 7680 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 768000 Configuration B: map-class frame-relay FRTS service-policy out policy_shape ! policy-map policy_shape class class-default shape average 768000 7680 0 Thanks! Michael ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame Relay Traffic Shaping
Both will have the same result, but the first one is called Frame Relay Traffic Shaping, and second is called Class Based Traffic Shaping. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Michael Luo hout...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to understand if the two configuration below achieve the same thing. If not, what's the difference? Configuration A: map-class frame-relay FRTS frame-relay cir 768000 frame-relay bc 7680 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 768000 Configuration B: map-class frame-relay FRTS service-policy out policy_shape ! policy-map policy_shape class class-default shape average 768000 7680 0 Thanks! Michael ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com -- Randall da ill Saborio CCIE Voice Wannabe #10054675811 ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame Relay Traffic Shaping
They are equivalent. With config A you must enable FRTS on the physical interface, with config B you must not. Config B is invalid with MLP LFI. -- Vik Malhi – CCIE #13890 Managing Partner / Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Fax: +1.810.454.0130 Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat http://www.ipexpert.com/chat IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training for the Cisco CCIE (RS, Voice, Wireless, Security Service Provider) certification(s) with training locations throughout the United States, Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities http://www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com http://www.ipexpert.com/ On Jun 4, 2011, at 16:12, Michael Luo hout...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to understand if the two configuration below achieve the same thing. If not, what's the difference? Configuration A: map-class frame-relay FRTS frame-relay cir 768000 frame-relay bc 7680 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 768000 Configuration B: map-class frame-relay FRTS service-policy out policy_shape ! policy-map policy_shape class class-default shape average 768000 7680 0 Thanks! Michael ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay traffic-shaping on the test
Hi, In my opinion if you have such scanario you should use class based frts which does not require frame-relay traffice-shaping command on physical interface. So you can configure shaping for one PVC not affecting the other. -- Best regards, Bartosz 2011/6/1 adam compton com...@gmail.com So I have a question as it pertains to the test. If I use auto qos on the Serial interfaces of the HQ and SiteB routers, frame-relay traffic shaping will be enabled. I know it will use the bandwidth that you configure for shaping. I also understand on the HQ router, the link to SiteC would default to 56k in frame-relay traffic shaping. Let's assume nothing is asked for QOS on the SiteC connection. My instinct is to configure the bandwith on the SITE C link to 1544 so that the link will not be affected. Am I using the correct value for this scenario? Adam Compton ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay traffic-shaping on the test
So I have a question as it pertains to the test. If I use auto qos on the Serial interfaces of the HQ and SiteB routers, frame-relay traffic shaping will be enabled. I know it will use the bandwidth that you configure for shaping. I also understand on the HQ router, the link to SiteC would default to 56k in frame-relay traffic shaping. Let's assume nothing is asked for QOS on the SiteC connection. My instinct is to configure the bandwith on the SITE C link to 1544 so that the link will not be affected. Am I using the correct value for this scenario? Adam Compton ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay traffic-shaping on the test
If you're not been provided with a value to Site C; then 1544 is acceptable. That's the one I use. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:23 AM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote: So I have a question as it pertains to the test. If I use auto qos on the Serial interfaces of the HQ and SiteB routers, frame-relay traffic shaping will be enabled. I know it will use the bandwidth that you configure for shaping. I also understand on the HQ router, the link to SiteC would default to 56k in frame-relay traffic shaping. Let's assume nothing is asked for QOS on the SiteC connection. My instinct is to configure the bandwith on the SITE C link to 1544 so that the link will not be affected. Am I using the correct value for this scenario? Adam Compton ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay traffic-shaping on the test
Hello, Bandwith should always be specified between HQ and branch offices. In fact, if nothing is specified for qos config on 1 site, 56K is gonna be the default value, you are right Just create, in this case, a map-class with the right BW value specified in the question and apply this map-class in the sub serial-interface Regards, Claude FRIDERICH PreSales Voice over IP CCIE Voice #29035 Office +352 31 33 80 - 407 Mobile +352 621 303 616 Fax +352 31 33 80 412 Email cfrider...@netcore.lu mailto:x...@netcore.lu From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Roger Carpio Sent: mercredi 1 juin 2011 17:21 To: adam compton Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay traffic-shaping on the test If you're not been provided with a value to Site C; then 1544 is acceptable. That's the one I use. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:23 AM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote: So I have a question as it pertains to the test. If I use auto qos on the Serial interfaces of the HQ and SiteB routers, frame-relay traffic shaping will be enabled. I know it will use the bandwidth that you configure for shaping. I also understand on the HQ router, the link to SiteC would default to 56k in frame-relay traffic shaping. Let's assume nothing is asked for QOS on the SiteC connection. My instinct is to configure the bandwith on the SITE C link to 1544 so that the link will not be affected. Am I using the correct value for this scenario? Adam Compton ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com image001.jpgimage004.jpgimage005.jpg___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay traffic-shaping on the test
The problem with that is that Frame-relay traffic shaping is enabled for the entire interface, not just the sub-interface. If you don't have a Map assigned, it defaults to 56K On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Friderich Claude cfrider...@netcore.luwrote: Hello, Bandwith should always be specified between HQ and branch offices. In fact, if nothing is specified for qos config on 1 site, 56K is gonna be the default value, you are right Just create, in this case, a map-class with the right BW value specified in the question and apply this map-class in the sub serial-interface Regards, [image: netcore_signature_4.jpg] *Claude FRIDERICH * PreSales Voice over IP * *** *[image: CCIEVoice_UseLogo]* CCIE Voice #29035 *O*ffice** +352 31 33 80 – 407** *M*obile ** +352 621 303 616** [image: cid:image003.jpg@01CC1F87.400817E0] *F*ax ** +352 31 33 80 412 *E*mail** *cfrider...@netcore.lu x...@netcore.lu*** *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger Carpio *Sent:* mercredi 1 juin 2011 17:21 *To:* adam compton *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay traffic-shaping on the test If you're not been provided with a value to Site C; then 1544 is acceptable. That's the one I use. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:23 AM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote: So I have a question as it pertains to the test. If I use auto qos on the Serial interfaces of the HQ and SiteB routers, frame-relay traffic shaping will be enabled. I know it will use the bandwidth that you configure for shaping. I also understand on the HQ router, the link to SiteC would default to 56k in frame-relay traffic shaping. Let's assume nothing is asked for QOS on the SiteC connection. My instinct is to configure the bandwith on the SITE C link to 1544 so that the link will not be affected. Am I using the correct value for this scenario? Adam Compton ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com http://www.platinumplacement.com/ image004.jpgimage005.jpgimage001.jpg___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping
If you are configuring FRF.12 you have to write frame-relay traffic shaping under the physical interface to work properly. Thanks and best regards, EHAB SALEM Cisco Instructor | Sigma IT - Egypt From: Omotayo [mailto:adefilabi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 6:38 AM To: bkvalent...@gmail.com Cc: OSL Group Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping thanks On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:33 PM, bkvalent...@gmail.com bkvalent...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't waste time configuring anything that won't earn you points. The test isn't about how closely you follow best practices. Do what is asked. If you aren't sure what is being asked, check with the proctor. Brian - Reply message - From: Omotayo adefilabi...@gmail.com Date: Sun, May 9, 2010 9:09 pm Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping To: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Hello all, If questions does not explicitly say we should configure shaping. Do we have to on the physical interface? thanks ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping
Absolutely agree. You HAVE TO ENABLE FRTS for the policy-map (LLQ) to take effect. Running FRTS on the physical interface is mandatory unless you are using class-based shaping (nested policy-map). -- Vik Malhi CCIE #13890 Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Fax: +1.810.454.0130 Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat http://www.ipexpert.com/chat IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training for the Cisco CCIE (RS, Voice, Security Service Provider) certification(s) with training locations throughout the United States, Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities http://www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com http://www.ipexpert.com/ From: Ehab Salem esa...@sigma-it.net Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:00:19 +0400 To: 'Omotayo' adefilabi...@gmail.com, bkvalent...@gmail.com Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping If you are configuring FRF.12 you have to write frame-relay traffic shaping under the physical interface to work properly. Thanks and best regards, EHAB SALEM Cisco Instructor | Sigma IT Egypt From: Omotayo [mailto:adefilabi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 6:38 AM To: bkvalent...@gmail.com Cc: OSL Group Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping thanks On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:33 PM, bkvalent...@gmail.com bkvalent...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't waste time configuring anything that won't earn you points. The test isn't about how closely you follow best practices. Do what is asked. If you aren't sure what is being asked, check with the proctor. Brian - Reply message - From: Omotayo adefilabi...@gmail.com Date: Sun, May 9, 2010 9:09 pm Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping To: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Hello all, If questions does not explicitly say we should configure shaping. Do we have to on the physical interface? thanks ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping
Hello all, If questions does not explicitly say we should configure shaping. Do we have to on the physical interface? thanks ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping
thanks On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:33 PM, bkvalent...@gmail.com bkvalent...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't waste time configuring anything that won't earn you points. The test isn't about how closely you follow best practices. Do what is asked. If you aren't sure what is being asked, check with the proctor. Brian - Reply message - From: Omotayo adefilabi...@gmail.com Date: Sun, May 9, 2010 9:09 pm Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame relay traffic shaping To: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Hello all, If questions does not explicitly say we should configure shaping. Do we have to on the physical interface? thanks ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame-Relay Traffic-Shaping Calculations
I'm trying to figure out the calculations for the frame-relay traffic-shaping parameters. In the Volume 1 Workbook, it states that cir and mincir should 95% of the PVC speed. I'm set for that one, but how do you get the Bc? I've found reference that it should be CIR/8=Bc. But all of the configs show it being /10. map-class frame-relay FRTS frame-relay cir 1466800 frame-relay mincir 1466800 frame-relay bc 14668 ---Where does this calculation come from? frame-relay be 0 Thanks Chris
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame-Relay Traffic-Shaping Calculations
Chris, According to the QOS SRND bc = cir/100. Sergio. From: christopherc_56...@hotmail.comto: ccie_vo...@onlinestudylist.comdate: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:14:03 -0600Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Frame-Relay Traffic-Shaping Calculations I'm trying to figure out the calculations for the frame-relay traffic-shaping parameters. In the Volume 1 Workbook, it states that cir and mincir should 95% of the PVC speed. I'm set for that one, but how do you get the Bc? I've found reference that it should be CIR/8=Bc. But all of the configs show it being /10. map-class frame-relay FRTS frame-relay cir 1466800 frame-relay mincir 1466800 frame-relay bc 14668 ---Where does this calculation come from? frame-relay be 0 Thanks Chris _ Receba GRÁTIS as mensagens do Messenger no seu celular quando você estiver offline. Conheça o MSN Mobile! http://mobile.live.com/signup/signup2.aspx?lc=pt-br
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame relay traffic-shaping
I'd probably point you to the QoS SRND for a full discussion, but I had thought that the fragmentation-delay command was only for PPP? I will be in very bad trouble if I get caught doing this today (12/24), but check this out: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6350/products_configuration_guide_book09186a0080435d50.html On 12/23/07, Balamurugan Singaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In frame relay traffic shaping, when we should use fragmentation-delay or frame-relay fragmentation. Could you please explain this both in detail? Thanks, Bala. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
