Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Questions Answered
Here it i got something free for written http://www.cert k n o w ledge.com/forum/index.php?/forum/61-ccie-voice-shares/ yes i also believe the same there is 2 ways either you go back to back attempts and get all the labs after 4 to 5 attempts u know again they have to repeat and earn or get all those above shit and pass but its fine whatever u did in yr life atleast experience counts but the pain is cisco guys has 3 free attempts we are not :) Another pain is $$ cisco has increased before bec it went very less but why did not decrease now when it is very high :) Yes my strategies was also same but i just took the workbooks and practised practised + made searched the solutions get the confirmation from srnds / configurations guides and then hitted! but it was almost same still want to get confirmed whatever i am doing it is right or wrong which also helps me to increase my knowledge. today i got some email from the company with some Penta ccie + CCDE and all... Trust me when i meet those guys they do not even know how to configure extension mobility i dont dought on anyone just i believe doing 1 with 1000% perfection is much better then Penta or 4 ccie thats what i feel so. A person can be master in only one technology rest he earn to learn but that do not mean he is master on that!!! Question to ciscx they allow to attempt freshers lets say if 10 years experience guy will attempt or fail and if fresher pass who will be valueable I have a answer definetly fresher will pass bec he has time no time, no family load he wil make attempts and clear it 10 years guy is working loaded with job/family other stuff I believe ccie is valueable cert atleast cisco shld put 5 years experience letter from every company to allow this.. As per my strategy 400 ccie passing per month which is 4800 passing in every year Right now ccie r*s demand is totally gone from market i believe why so if cisco would only allow 5 years experience guy to attempt still its business dont want to go in depth but i believe my concerns are right... so some people choose real labs , some go back to back actually its the same depending on yr feasibility but i believe it is not at all wrong bec they are just giving u path atlast you also have to give hard work confirm your solutions understand the techology nt just close the eyes and attempt. tcFrom: sut...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:53:35 +0700 To: daqui...@cisco.com CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Questions Answered Awesome Dan, Congratulations. You certainly earned it.Is it possible to use UC320 instead UC520? Moreover, is there free material to jump start in CCIE Voice written exam? You are truly an inspiration. Cheers, Ben SutantoPMP, MBA On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:49, Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.com wrote: All, Thanks so much for the show of support – I received a TON of messages from list members. I've decided to answer the various questions I've received publicly for all to see, so that my answers might help everyone striving for their CCIE Voice. This is a long post, but will probably help some of you. [Q] What test number did you get / did you get Lab 7? [A] I have no idea. I didn't use any brain dumps or any material that might be considered questionable. Each time I sat for the lab, I was handed a test that I had never seen before (as it should be, in my opinion). First, I believe brain dumps to be cheating and didn't want to earn my CCIE that way. Second, I work for Cisco, the company who runs the CCIE program. It's not worth tainting my career by doing something that I consider unethical. It's extremely important to me that I earn my CCIE the right way.[Q] Where did you take your exam? [A] My first attempt in 2011 was San Jose. All my attempts after that were in RTP.[Q] What materials did you use to study? [A] As far as 3rd party materials, I used IPExpert and Proctor Labs exclusively. I purchased the IPExpert Complete End-to-End Program (Workbooks, VoDs, AoDs, the Instructor Led Bootcamp, the One Week Lab Experience, and Proctor Labs rack time) and then the 5-Lab Self-Study Challenge. I used all of these in addition to the Cisco SRND documents / Cisco product documentation, Cisco Press books, real-world experience, and of course the Online Study List.[Q] How long did you prepare? [A] I started studying (slowly) in January of 2011. I took the Bootcamp and Lab Experience classes in June / July 2011, and failed my first attempt in July of 2011. I took a long break from studying after failing, but began studying again in earnest in January 2012. I failed my attempts in May 2012 and June 2012 (attempt 2 and 3), then passed in July 2012 (attempt 4). All said, it was 1.5 years, but really it was a year of focused studying with a 6-month break in the middle.[Q] What gear did you use? [A] I used a Cisco UC520 with the normal config removed
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Questions Answered
Honestly, I don't know if a 320 will work – I have no experience with the 320. The 520 works because it is IOS-based and can be configured via CLI. I just adapted the ISR Router Switch configs from Proctor Labs to the UC520. There are links to both pay-for and free content here: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voice/written_exam?tab=studylearn DQ From: Sutben sut...@gmail.commailto:sut...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:53 AM To: Dan Quinlan daqui...@cisco.commailto:daqui...@cisco.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Questions Answered Awesome Dan, Congratulations. You certainly earned it. Is it possible to use UC320 instead UC520? Moreover, is there free material to jump start in CCIE Voice written exam? You are truly an inspiration. Cheers, Ben Sutanto PMP, MBA On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:49, Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.commailto:daqui...@cisco.com wrote: All, Thanks so much for the show of support – I received a TON of messages from list members. I've decided to answer the various questions I've received publicly for all to see, so that my answers might help everyone striving for their CCIE Voice. This is a long post, but will probably help some of you. 1. [Q] What test number did you get / did you get Lab 7? [A] I have no idea. I didn't use any brain dumps or any material that might be considered questionable. Each time I sat for the lab, I was handed a test that I had never seen before (as it should be, in my opinion). First, I believe brain dumps to be cheating and didn't want to earn my CCIE that way. Second, I work for Cisco, the company who runs the CCIE program. It's not worth tainting my career by doing something that I consider unethical. It's extremely important to me that I earn my CCIE the right way. 2. [Q] Where did you take your exam? [A] My first attempt in 2011 was San Jose. All my attempts after that were in RTP. 3. [Q] What materials did you use to study? [A] As far as 3rd party materials, I used IPExpert and Proctor Labs exclusively. I purchased the IPExpert Complete End-to-End Program (Workbooks, VoDs, AoDs, the Instructor Led Bootcamp, the One Week Lab Experience, and Proctor Labs rack time) and then the 5-Lab Self-Study Challenge. I used all of these in addition to the Cisco SRND documents / Cisco product documentation, Cisco Press books, real-world experience, and of course the Online Study List. 4. [Q] How long did you prepare? [A] I started studying (slowly) in January of 2011. I took the Bootcamp and Lab Experience classes in June / July 2011, and failed my first attempt in July of 2011. I took a long break from studying after failing, but began studying again in earnest in January 2012. I failed my attempts in May 2012 and June 2012 (attempt 2 and 3), then passed in July 2012 (attempt 4). All said, it was 1.5 years, but really it was a year of focused studying with a 6-month break in the middle. 5. [Q] What gear did you use? [A] I used a Cisco UC520 with the normal config removed to provide VPN connectivity to Proctor Labs and to provide PoE / VLAN / etc for my phones: 1 PSTN phone, 2 Site A phones, 1 Site B phone, and 2 Site C phones (all 7965's). When doing practice labs, I would configure all of my local phones as well as the remote phones provided on the Proctor Labs racks. I did not use soft phones at all. Additionally, I stood up my own UC Manager Pub and Sub, Unity Connection, CUPS, and UCCX in VMWare to practice individual concepts when not using Proctor Labs rack sessions. I did not stand up my own gateways or infrastructure, except for the bare minimum to provide connectivity to my VMWare-based servers. Yes, I have access to the software as a Cisco employee. No, I can't give you a copy. 6. [Q] What was your strategy on exam day to manage time? [A] I followed a strategy similar to one that I practiced for two months while doing IPExpert practice labs. When doing a practice lab, I start by building a table of all of the questions, points, and devices, I read the entire exam quickly, and I fill out the table (x if I had to configure that device for that question). Then I start configuring. I configure NTP first on all devices (making sure to manually restart NTP on the SUB via the CLI once the PUB synch's to the NTP server), then all of the infrastructure (VLAN, DHCP, etc) on all devices. After that, I start my CUE config. As it reboots I begin configuring everything on Site C gateway in order (not call routing if UCM, including call routing if CME), checking on the CUE as I go and finishing CUE steps whenever it's ready. Once C is all done, I configure the Site B router (except call routing) in order. Then the Site A router and switch (except call routing) in order
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Questions Answered
All, Thanks so much for the show of support – I received a TON of messages from list members. I've decided to answer the various questions I've received publicly for all to see, so that my answers might help everyone striving for their CCIE Voice. This is a long post, but will probably help some of you. 1. [Q] What test number did you get / did you get Lab 7? [A] I have no idea. I didn't use any brain dumps or any material that might be considered questionable. Each time I sat for the lab, I was handed a test that I had never seen before (as it should be, in my opinion). First, I believe brain dumps to be cheating and didn't want to earn my CCIE that way. Second, I work for Cisco, the company who runs the CCIE program. It's not worth tainting my career by doing something that I consider unethical. It's extremely important to me that I earn my CCIE the right way. 2. [Q] Where did you take your exam? [A] My first attempt in 2011 was San Jose. All my attempts after that were in RTP. 3. [Q] What materials did you use to study? [A] As far as 3rd party materials, I used IPExpert and Proctor Labs exclusively. I purchased the IPExpert Complete End-to-End Program (Workbooks, VoDs, AoDs, the Instructor Led Bootcamp, the One Week Lab Experience, and Proctor Labs rack time) and then the 5-Lab Self-Study Challenge. I used all of these in addition to the Cisco SRND documents / Cisco product documentation, Cisco Press books, real-world experience, and of course the Online Study List. 4. [Q] How long did you prepare? [A] I started studying (slowly) in January of 2011. I took the Bootcamp and Lab Experience classes in June / July 2011, and failed my first attempt in July of 2011. I took a long break from studying after failing, but began studying again in earnest in January 2012. I failed my attempts in May 2012 and June 2012 (attempt 2 and 3), then passed in July 2012 (attempt 4). All said, it was 1.5 years, but really it was a year of focused studying with a 6-month break in the middle. 5. [Q] What gear did you use? [A] I used a Cisco UC520 with the normal config removed to provide VPN connectivity to Proctor Labs and to provide PoE / VLAN / etc for my phones: 1 PSTN phone, 2 Site A phones, 1 Site B phone, and 2 Site C phones (all 7965's). When doing practice labs, I would configure all of my local phones as well as the remote phones provided on the Proctor Labs racks. I did not use soft phones at all. Additionally, I stood up my own UC Manager Pub and Sub, Unity Connection, CUPS, and UCCX in VMWare to practice individual concepts when not using Proctor Labs rack sessions. I did not stand up my own gateways or infrastructure, except for the bare minimum to provide connectivity to my VMWare-based servers. Yes, I have access to the software as a Cisco employee. No, I can't give you a copy. 6. [Q] What was your strategy on exam day to manage time? [A] I followed a strategy similar to one that I practiced for two months while doing IPExpert practice labs. When doing a practice lab, I start by building a table of all of the questions, points, and devices, I read the entire exam quickly, and I fill out the table (x if I had to configure that device for that question). Then I start configuring. I configure NTP first on all devices (making sure to manually restart NTP on the SUB via the CLI once the PUB synch's to the NTP server), then all of the infrastructure (VLAN, DHCP, etc) on all devices. After that, I start my CUE config. As it reboots I begin configuring everything on Site C gateway in order (not call routing if UCM, including call routing if CME), checking on the CUE as I go and finishing CUE steps whenever it's ready. Once C is all done, I configure the Site B router (except call routing) in order. Then the Site A router and switch (except call routing) in order. Once that's all done, I start on UCM and do a bunch of standard stuff that I do every time – check replication, check services, set service parameters, add gateways, device pools, timezones, etc. Once I've done all of my UCM basics, I start working through the UCM questions in order (some are already done by default by my basic config). I do all of my UCM-based call routing at one time (UCM RPs as well as dial-peers and gatekeeper). Then I do Voicemail configs, UCCX configs, Presence configs, and anything I skipped. One of the last things I do is test any SRST, if required by the practice lab. 7. [Q] Did you have XX on your exam? [A] I work for Cisco. There's no way I'll ever answer that question and break the NDA. 8. [Q] Can you send me .pdf files of your study materials? [A] Of course not. I won't help anyone steal from Wayne, Vik, and the rest of the good folks at IPExpert. If you want it, contact a Sales Rep at IPExpert. They're very happy to sell you IPExpert's products. I think that covers the majority of the questions I've
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Questions Answered
Awesome Dan, Congratulations. You certainly earned it. Is it possible to use UC320 instead UC520? Moreover, is there free material to jump start in CCIE Voice written exam? You are truly an inspiration. Cheers, Ben Sutanto PMP, MBA On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:49, Dan Quinlan (daquinla) daqui...@cisco.com wrote: All, Thanks so much for the show of support – I received a TON of messages from list members. I've decided to answer the various questions I've received publicly for all to see, so that my answers might help everyone striving for their CCIE Voice. This is a long post, but will probably help some of you. [Q] What test number did you get / did you get Lab 7? [A] I have no idea. I didn't use any brain dumps or any material that might be considered questionable. Each time I sat for the lab, I was handed a test that I had never seen before (as it should be, in my opinion). First, I believe brain dumps to be cheating and didn't want to earn my CCIE that way. Second, I work for Cisco, the company who runs the CCIE program. It's not worth tainting my career by doing something that I consider unethical. It's extremely important to me that I earn my CCIE the right way. [Q] Where did you take your exam? [A] My first attempt in 2011 was San Jose. All my attempts after that were in RTP. [Q] What materials did you use to study? [A] As far as 3rd party materials, I used IPExpert and Proctor Labs exclusively. I purchased the IPExpert Complete End-to-End Program (Workbooks, VoDs, AoDs, the Instructor Led Bootcamp, the One Week Lab Experience, and Proctor Labs rack time) and then the 5-Lab Self-Study Challenge. I used all of these in addition to the Cisco SRND documents / Cisco product documentation, Cisco Press books, real-world experience, and of course the Online Study List. [Q] How long did you prepare? [A] I started studying (slowly) in January of 2011. I took the Bootcamp and Lab Experience classes in June / July 2011, and failed my first attempt in July of 2011. I took a long break from studying after failing, but began studying again in earnest in January 2012. I failed my attempts in May 2012 and June 2012 (attempt 2 and 3), then passed in July 2012 (attempt 4). All said, it was 1.5 years, but really it was a year of focused studying with a 6-month break in the middle. [Q] What gear did you use? [A] I used a Cisco UC520 with the normal config removed to provide VPN connectivity to Proctor Labs and to provide PoE / VLAN / etc for my phones: 1 PSTN phone, 2 Site A phones, 1 Site B phone, and 2 Site C phones (all 7965's). When doing practice labs, I would configure all of my local phones as well as the remote phones provided on the Proctor Labs racks. I did not use soft phones at all. Additionally, I stood up my own UC Manager Pub and Sub, Unity Connection, CUPS, and UCCX in VMWare to practice individual concepts when not using Proctor Labs rack sessions. I did not stand up my own gateways or infrastructure, except for the bare minimum to provide connectivity to my VMWare-based servers. Yes, I have access to the software as a Cisco employee. No, I can't give you a copy. [Q] What was your strategy on exam day to manage time? [A] I followed a strategy similar to one that I practiced for two months while doing IPExpert practice labs. When doing a practice lab, I start by building a table of all of the questions, points, and devices, I read the entire exam quickly, and I fill out the table (x if I had to configure that device for that question). Then I start configuring. I configure NTP first on all devices (making sure to manually restart NTP on the SUB via the CLI once the PUB synch's to the NTP server), then all of the infrastructure (VLAN, DHCP, etc) on all devices. After that, I start my CUE config. As it reboots I begin configuring everything on Site C gateway in order (not call routing if UCM, including call routing if CME), checking on the CUE as I go and finishing CUE steps whenever it's ready. Once C is all done, I configure the Site B router (except call routing) in order. Then the Site A router and switch (except call routing) in order. Once that's all done, I start on UCM and do a bunch of standard stuff that I do every time – check replication, check services, set service parameters, add gateways, device pools, timezones, etc. Once I've done all of my UCM basics, I start working through the UCM questions in order (some are already done by default by my basic config). I do all of my UCM-based call routing at one time (UCM RPs as well as dial-peers and gatekeeper). Then I do Voicemail configs, UCCX configs, Presence configs, and anything I skipped. One of the last things I do is test any SRST, if required by the practice lab. [Q] Did you have XX on your exam? [A] I work for Cisco. There's no way I'll ever answer that question and break the
