[ccp4bb] Beamtime at SLS X06SA

2007-02-13 Thread Clemens Schulze-Briese

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SYNCHROTRON BEAM TIME FOR MACROMOLECULAR CRYSTALLOGRAPHY
AT THE UNDULATOR BEAMLINE X06SA AT SLS FROM MAY  -  AUGUST  2007
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- PILATUS 6M pixel detector will become available for  user operation in 
May 2007 at the

High Resolution Diffractometer; http://pilatus.web.psi.ch/

- Detector upgrade to mar225 CCD on Micro-Diffractometer MD2. This 
MAD-compatible
diffractometer allows for data collection with a beam size of 15 x 5 
micrometers.


- A robotic sample changer is currently in the commissioning phase and 
will be available on

the Micro-Diffractometer.

- SLS is able to provide support for travel and accomodation for two 
users per trip:

http://sls.web.psi.ch/view.php/users/experiments/eusupport/index.html

- For recent highlights: 
http://sls.web.psi.ch/view.php/beamlines/px/research/index.html



  PROPOSAL SUBMISSION DEADLINE: Wednesday, February 15th 2007.


For further information and / or proposal submission:
http://sls.web.psi.ch/view.php/users/experiments/proposals/opencalls/PX/index.html 




Looking forward to seeing you at SLS,

Clemens Schulze-Briese

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[ccp4bb] Structure reconstruction from NMR constraints?

2007-02-13 Thread Dan Bolser

Hi,

What software is recommended for building structures from NMR data?


Cheers,

Dan.


Re: [ccp4bb] Multi-copies in one assymetric unit

2007-02-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Sometimes this sort of disorder is due to an error , so the first thing 
is to check very carefully that the solution makes sense.


Why are you so sure there are 6 copies in the asymmetric unit?

In situations like this I first worry about SG.

Is there a pseudo-translation vector? This can make it hard to decide on 
the SG..


Is there an alternate spacegroup with fewer molecules in the asymm unit?

What does the self rotation show?



Yanming Zhang wrote:

Dear All,

Maybe this is a trivial question:

My data should have 6 molecules in one assymetric unit.  MR could find 
out 4 molecules. After this, no matter how hard I have tried, no more 
molecules can be found. At this stage, I suppose that all other copies 
are dis-ordered. And go ahead to do refinement with 4 molecules (ABCD) 
available.
The density for A is quite good. But for BCD are very dis-ordered. 
Many breaks in chains. I'd like to ask you:

In a situation like this, should I:
A, Use NCS for all copies?
B Do not use NCS at all?
C, Use NCS just for BCD? (even dis-ordered, but similar)?
What is the trick to lower down Rfree as soon as possible, if you have 
experienced the same situation before?



Thanks

Yanming




Re: [ccp4bb] Multi-copies in one assymetric unit

2007-02-13 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
Assuming that the MR solution is correct (I agree with Eleanor, that you
need to be certain about your selection of space group), then use your
complete model of chain A superimposed on chains B, C, and D. Then refine
and build the heck out of it. In a similar situation, it was relatively
easy for me to find two out of three molecules by MR. We were never really
convinced that there was a third (Matthews coefficient dicey, suggesting
either 2 or 3). After substantial refinement and building, the third chain
was apparent, and we rebuilt it completely. Looking at the average
B-factors of each chain, and the overall packing environment, chain A was
tight, chain B looser, and chain C will substantially fewer contacts.

Bernie Santarsiero


On Tue, February 13, 2007 10:07 am, Eleanor Dodson wrote:
 Sometimes this sort of disorder is due to an error , so the first thing
 is to check very carefully that the solution makes sense.

 Why are you so sure there are 6 copies in the asymmetric unit?

 In situations like this I first worry about SG.

 Is there a pseudo-translation vector? This can make it hard to decide on
 the SG..

 Is there an alternate spacegroup with fewer molecules in the asymm unit?

 What does the self rotation show?



 Yanming Zhang wrote:
 Dear All,

 Maybe this is a trivial question:

 My data should have 6 molecules in one assymetric unit.  MR could find
 out 4 molecules. After this, no matter how hard I have tried, no more
 molecules can be found. At this stage, I suppose that all other copies
 are dis-ordered. And go ahead to do refinement with 4 molecules (ABCD)
 available.
 The density for A is quite good. But for BCD are very dis-ordered.
 Many breaks in chains. I'd like to ask you:
 In a situation like this, should I:
 A, Use NCS for all copies?
 B Do not use NCS at all?
 C, Use NCS just for BCD? (even dis-ordered, but similar)?
 What is the trick to lower down Rfree as soon as possible, if you have
 experienced the same situation before?


 Thanks

 Yanming





Re: [ccp4bb] Structure reconstruction from NMR constraints?

2007-02-13 Thread Bernhard Rupp
 software is recommended for building structures

Actually, I can recommend some HARDWARE: 
It is called 'X-ray diffractometer'.

Cheers, BR

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
Bolser
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:54 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Structure reconstruction from NMR constraints?

Hi,

What  from NMR data?


Cheers,

Dan.


[ccp4bb] AKTA prime

2007-02-13 Thread Frank Lee

Dear all,

I need to decide between buying an AKTA prime and an AKTA FPLC from GE health 
care. I understand AKTA prime is a low-pressure system, but because it is too 
much cheaper than AKTA FPLC, it is still very attractive to me.

I will mainly use it for Nickel columns and gel filtration columns, and I am 
worried about the latter. Is it true that using AKTA prime, you can only run 
the 24 ml Superdex 200 column at 0.1 or 0.2 ml/min?

Could anyone who has used AKTA prime give me some feedbacks? I would appreciate 
it.

Best,
Frank

 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Multi-copies in one assymetric unit

2007-02-13 Thread Yanming Zhang

Sorry I forget to tell ya the details:

The SG of my Data is cubic P4332. Cell is 251.34A in all three dimensions.
Resolution is 3.1A. 5,6,7,8 might be the possible copies from Matthew
coeficient. But I just trust 6 because Chinese like the number 6
(happy Chinese new year by the way :)). No pseudo translation judged by 
Native Patterson. Self-rotation at the section kappa=180 shows strong 
peaks at phi=45 and psi=45.At the stage of map generation, the Rfree is 
42% R is 38%.

Thanks!
Yanming


On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Eleanor Dodson wrote:

Sometimes this sort of disorder is due to an error , so the first thing is to 
check very carefully that the solution makes sense.


Why are you so sure there are 6 copies in the asymmetric unit?

In situations like this I first worry about SG.

Is there a pseudo-translation vector? This can make it hard to decide on the 
SG..


Is there an alternate spacegroup with fewer molecules in the asymm unit?

What does the self rotation show?



Yanming Zhang wrote:

Dear All,

Maybe this is a trivial question:

My data should have 6 molecules in one assymetric unit.  MR could find out 
4 molecules. After this, no matter how hard I have tried, no more molecules 
can be found. At this stage, I suppose that all other copies are 
dis-ordered. And go ahead to do refinement with 4 molecules (ABCD) 
available.
The density for A is quite good. But for BCD are very dis-ordered. Many 
breaks in chains. I'd like to ask you:

In a situation like this, should I:
A, Use NCS for all copies?
B Do not use NCS at all?
C, Use NCS just for BCD? (even dis-ordered, but similar)?
What is the trick to lower down Rfree as soon as possible, if you have 
experienced the same situation before?



Thanks

Yanming







Re: [ccp4bb] Multi-copies in one assymetric unit

2007-02-13 Thread Debanu Das

Hi,
  Do you have any biochemical evidence that points to oligomeric nature 
of your protein? Does SEC indicate monomer/dimer/trimer/tetramer?
If not or even if so, what does the crystal packing with your MR 
solution with 4 molecules suggest about monomer interactions? Does that 
correlate with SEC results?


Assuming your SG is correct, were you doing your MR search with a 
monomer? Does the packing with 4 molecules leave lots of space that can 
be potentially occupied by more monomers?


/If so, and there is indication of dimer or trimer interactions, you 
could try your MR again and let's say search for 3 dimers  or 2 trimers  
or 2 tetramers/.


Also, what program are you using for MR and what is the resolution range 
for the Rot/Trans search?
If you are not using PHASER, you could /try some different variations of 
resolution range for the search and see if you pick up more molecules/.


What kind of refinement did you do after finding the 4 molecules? Have 
you tried simulated annealing refinement and then inspected the 
resulting maps at low sigma level to see evidence for additional molecules?
Also, how much sequence identity do you have between your target and 
search model? That can affect your map quality and R-factors quite a bit.


Regards,
Debanu.

Yanming Zhang wrote:


Sorry I forget to tell ya the details:

The SG of my Data is cubic P4332. Cell is 251.34A in all three 
dimensions.

Resolution is 3.1A. 5,6,7,8 might be the possible copies from Matthew
coeficient. But I just trust 6 because Chinese like the number 6
(happy Chinese new year by the way :)). No pseudo translation judged 
by Native Patterson. Self-rotation at the section kappa=180 shows 
strong peaks at phi=45 and psi=45.At the stage of map generation, the 
Rfree is 42% R is 38%.

Thanks!
Yanming


On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Eleanor Dodson wrote:

Sometimes this sort of disorder is due to an error , so the first 
thing is to check very carefully that the solution makes sense.


Why are you so sure there are 6 copies in the asymmetric unit?

In situations like this I first worry about SG.

Is there a pseudo-translation vector? This can make it hard to decide 
on the SG..


Is there an alternate spacegroup with fewer molecules in the asymm unit?

What does the self rotation show?



Yanming Zhang wrote:


Dear All,

Maybe this is a trivial question:

My data should have 6 molecules in one assymetric unit.  MR could 
find out 4 molecules. After this, no matter how hard I have tried, 
no more molecules can be found. At this stage, I suppose that all 
other copies are dis-ordered. And go ahead to do refinement with 4 
molecules (ABCD) available.
The density for A is quite good. But for BCD are very dis-ordered. 
Many breaks in chains. I'd like to ask you:

In a situation like this, should I:
A, Use NCS for all copies?
B Do not use NCS at all?
C, Use NCS just for BCD? (even dis-ordered, but similar)?
What is the trick to lower down Rfree as soon as possible, if you 
have experienced the same situation before?



Thanks

Yanming