Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic computing platform recommendations?

2008-11-19 Thread Steve Lane
Axel:

Um... it works fine for us.  I just tested it about 10 seconds ago
(names have been changed to protect the guilty):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password:
macclient:~ myaccount$ pwd
/Network/Servers/osxserverbox.some.domain/afp/myaccount
macclient:~ myaccount$ echo $HOME
/Network/Servers/osxserverbox.some.domain/afp/myaccount

This is OS X Server 10.5.5 and a 10.5.5 client, with an extremely vanilla
configuration.  After fighting the setup for two days to try to get it
to mount somewhere *other* than /Network/Servers/blahblahblah, I left
it alone and put in the following link on the client (we only have one,
but could have more without any problems, as far as I can tell):

/people - /Network/Servers/osxserverbox.some.domain/afp

And:

macclient:~ myaccount$ df -h
FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted 
on
/dev/disk0s2 465Gi   24Gi  441Gi 6%/
devfs107Ki  107Ki0Bi   100%/dev
fdesc1.0Ki  1.0Ki0Bi   100%/dev
map -hosts 0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%/net
map auto_home  0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%/home
map -fstab 0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%
/Network/Servers
trigger0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%
/Network/Servers/osxserverbox.some.domain/afp
afp_05oXza0007GeoMVU-1.2d3a  298Gi   82Gi  216Gi28%
/Network/Servers/osxserverbox.some.domain/afp

I think this homedir mounting feature is a function of using OSX Server,
rather than vanilla OS X, to do the AFP exporting, which is why we are
using Server.

Best,

--
Steve Lane
System, Network and Security Administrator
Doudna Lab
Biomolecular Structure and Mechanism Group
UC Berkeley


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:51:44PM -0800, Axel Brunger wrote:
Brian,
 
There is one disadvantage with using AFP rather than wide open
(potentially
 
insecure) NFS mounts.  Remote login via ssh into a client
computer won't by default mount the
 
user's AFP home directory.   While it is possible to manually
 
mount the AFP home directory it may preclude other  users from using
the client
 
computer from the console. This feature of AFP is due to user-specific
 
mounting of the remote disk on the client computer.  I assume the same
 
feature would apply to Kerberized NFS mounts, but I haven't tried it.
 
This limitation of AFP requires some thought when using idle client
computers
 
as compute servers.  We're using the Mac Server Xgrid service, along
 
with the freely available GridStuffer.app application to make
submission of batch jobs
 
to all our Macs relatively easy.
 
Axel
 
On Nov 18, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Brian Mark wrote:
 
Francis,
From your response and others to my question about OS X server 10.5,
AFP seems to be the preferred networking protocol over NFS.  Yes, in
our case the RAID is connected to a G5 (via firewire 800 - which
provides surprisingly good transfer rates BTW) that is running OS X
server 10.5 .  I'll try AFP for the user home directories.
Thanks,
Brian
 
Axel T. Brunger
Investigator,  Howard Hughes Medical Institute
Professor of Molecular and Cellular Physiology
Stanford University
Web:http://atbweb.stanford.edu
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  +1 650-736-1031
Fax:+1 650-745-1463


[ccp4bb] Pymol: Zoom without Mouse

2008-11-19 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
How does one zoom into the molecule in Pymol without a mouse and with  
just the Mac trackpad and keyboard?


Have tried to look it up in the manual and on the web. No success  
finding it yet; I did figure it out once before but can't redo it now  
for the life of me. Need to know how to do it without the mouse.


Thanks,
Raji


Re: [ccp4bb] Pymol: Zoom without Mouse

2008-11-19 Thread Smith, Clyde
move z, [number] (where [number] is (of course) a number) will do it but you 
have to be careful about clipping.  There may well also be a zoom command ...


-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Raji Edayathumangalam
Sent: Wed 19/11/2008 9:29 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Pymol: Zoom without Mouse
 
How does one zoom into the molecule in Pymol without a mouse and with  
just the Mac trackpad and keyboard?

Have tried to look it up in the manual and on the web. No success  
finding it yet; I did figure it out once before but can't redo it now  
for the life of me. Need to know how to do it without the mouse.

Thanks,
Raji


Re: [ccp4bb] difficult MR in R32(H32)

2008-11-19 Thread Shane Atwell
Thanks Eleanor and everyone else that replied privately. 

Twinning was a common thought and the data was not by several tests. 

The MR was solved by getting better data, clean 2.8A vs. the 3.0A I had.
With this data phaser was able to solve it easily in R32 with 3
molecules. There was not significant conformational change. 

I believe the difficulty with the earlier data was due to a
translational NCS, but am not completely sure. The density is not great
and the R factors very high. I did try refining in R3 and the density
and statistics didn't improve.

Shane

 -Original Message-
 From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Eleanor Dodson
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:03 AM
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] difficult MR in R32(H32)
 
 Answer is NO to difficulty; H32 is no easier or harder in 
 principal than any other SG..
 
 However do you have a NCS translation? or twinning?
 
 Is your model likely to be an oligomer?
 Eleanor


Re: [ccp4bb] NMR resolution (delete if you believe that ccp4bb is limited to CCP4 and maybe few other crystallography-related topics)

2008-11-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
Thanks to all who answered (so quickly).  To summarize, the premise
fails because NMR/FRET and crystallography are based on different
phenomena, and the energy-distance relationship is only valid for the
latter.  One has to wonder why they need to build bigger and bigger
accelerators instead of inventing some clever radiationless transfer
method :) 


[ccp4bb] Order of scale/merge and reindexing

2008-11-19 Thread Young-Tae Lee

Hi,

I have been working on the 2A data. Though almost done, R/Rfree was  
around 0.20/0.27. Then I noticed that structural factors were  
reindexed from P222 to P212121 after scaling/merging in the early  
process (I am finishing up a little bit old data). To escape any  
problems from wrong merging of structural factors, I reindexed the  
raw mtz first and scaled/merged again.


As new scale/merge assigned new test set of structural factors, R/ 
Rfree after 10 new cycles of refmac5 refinement was quite low around  
0.20/0.23. With a hope to make the new test set truly free, I ran  
almost 300 cycles of refmac5 refinement. Then R/Rfree converged to  
0.20/0.25.


However, I am not sure whether this improvement was really from  
correcting order of scale/merge and reindex, or still from including  
previous test data in the new refinement.


Thanks,

Young-Tae

Young-Tae Lee, Ph. D.
Research Associate
The Scripps Research Institute
Dept. of Molecular Biology