Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: problematic protein

2011-04-21 Thread Savvas Savvides
I would like to thank all of you  who promptly replied to my posting with so 
many ideas and suggestions (18 answers so far). I will post a summary soon.

best wishes to all
Savvas


 
 
 On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Savvas Savvides wrote:
 
 Dear colleagues
 
 We are working on a large bacterial protein (featuring a large number of 
 repeats) that appears to copurify with a lot of other proteins after 
 Ni-affinity chromatography and gel-filtration. We have tried adjusting the 
 ionic strength of these runs and have gone to as high as 5M NaCl but only 
 saw marginal improvements.  It appears that the protein likes to stick to a 
 lot of stuff, and in fact the number of repeats in a given construct 
 appears to correlate with the extent of contaminants in our purification 
 steps. We have admittedly never seen anything like this among the so many 
 different, and often challenging, proteins, we have worked on in our group 
 over the last few years.
 
 We are now thinking of trying detergents in the buffers (at non-micellar 
 concentrations), in conjunction with playing a bit with the pH to see if 
 such an approach provides a 'stripping' effect. Interestingly, the protein 
 has a calculated pI of 3.5 !
 
 As the options for handling this protein are indeed quite numerous, we 
 would be grateful for any additional input and possible tips/tricks.
 
 I will prompty post a summary of the thread.
 
 Best regards
 Savvas et al.
 
 
 
 Savvas Savvides
 Unit for Structural Biology @ L-ProBE
 Ghent University
 K.L. Ledeganckstraat 35, 9000 Ghent, Belgium
 Tel/SMS/texting +32  (0)472 928 519
 Skype: savvas.savvides_skype
 http://www.LProBE.ugent.be/xray.html
 



Re: [ccp4bb] Rcullis and phasing power

2011-04-21 Thread Navraj S. Pannu

Hi Kenneth,

I think the FOM reported by BP3 is a good indication of the quality of a 
solution: the FOM is an estimate of the mean cosine of the phase error.


BP3 does not work with calculated anomalous differences with SAD data, but 
uses the observed and calculated F+ and F-: thus, an R-cullis or phasing 
power has less meaning with BP3's algorithm.


Best wishes,
Raj


On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Kenneth A. Satyshur wrote:


sirs:

I am running BP3 in crank on SeMet data SAD and getting a solution,
but we need a number like
Rcullis
which is nowhere to be found, and comes from Mlphare. What is best to
report?

thanks
kas


--
Kenneth A. Satyshur, M.S.,Ph.D.
Associate Scientist
University of Wisconsin
Madison, Wisconsin 53706
608-215-5207



Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Optimization: Summary

2011-04-21 Thread Jobichen Chacko
Dear All,

Thank you for the replies to my post. I received more than 14 response. The
summary is given below.


The suggestions were

- add another purification step.
 * Ni-column
 * remove His-tag
 * Ni-column
 * gel filtration
 if you have done that: add another step to test for better crystals
- additive screens
- room temperature data set to check if freezing hampers the crystal
- seeding
- crystallisation at different temperatures
- removal of the His-tag (or leave it on if it is cleaved)

Dehydration.
Reductive methylation

Add PEG400 (or set your PEG concentration ~5% higher) into the cryosolution.

Cryoprotection with DMSO.

Grew the crystals in the presence of 5% glycerol.

Crosslink the crystals with glutaraldehyde by vapor diffusion.

Adding 20% peg200 as cryoprotectant.

Using the Hampton Research Crystal Screen HT as additive screen (adding 5%
into the mother liquor).

Slowly increase the PEG concentration to 28 - 30%

Add 1-2% Glycerol or MPD or Ethylene Glycol or other cryo-agent to your
protein buffer you may find similar or even identical crystallization
condition in which your crystal may tolerate higher concentration of
cryo-agent.

To include any salts in the cryo (at least half of the concentration) that
may be already in the protein solution.


[ccp4bb] Jobs in Australia

2011-04-21 Thread Aaron Oakley
Just a note to alert interested users of some (post-doctoral) research 
associate opportunities in Australia:

http://employment.uow.edu.au/cgi-bin/job_details.cgi?id=23878


[ccp4bb] Puzzle with MALS

2011-04-21 Thread zhen zhang
Dear All,

I am having a consistency issue processing my SEC-MALS data. The sample is a 
80KD protein which may form a dimer. The experiment I run a year ago shows a 
major peak at 11.4 ml (GE S200 column), which is calcuated to have a MW of 
144kD. There is a minor peak at 10.0 ml. In an effort to make nice looking 
pictures, I rerun the experiement using the same setup (column, buffer, 
protein, speed) and again the major peak is at 11.4 ml but it is calcuated to 
have a MW of 80KD. I rerun the sample multiple times with the same result. I 
tried to reprocess the old data and the calcuated MW is still 144KD. I am 
puzzled about what I have done wrong and which data I should trust. Well, I am 
inclined to trust the later experiment because I took extra caution and had 
multiple data sets. However, I should be able to reprocess the old data to have 
a MW close to 80KD if I can find out what is wrong and correct the mistake, 
which I have not been able to. Any suggestions?

Zhen Zhang


Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzle with MALS

2011-04-21 Thread Amir Khan
Hi Zhen
-was concentration higher in old run? Might be monomer-dimer equilibrium, 
for recent paper, see Benfield et al. (JBC, in press)
-we have a miniDAWN with a 'low-high-medium' setting in the back of the setting.
Inadvertently changing the setting scales the MW values up and down.
Have you run a BSA standard, to insure system is OK?
-Amir

From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of zhen zhang 
[zz2...@columbia.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:32 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Puzzle with MALS

Dear All,

I am having a consistency issue processing my SEC-MALS data. The sample is a 
80KD protein which may form a dimer. The experiment I run a year ago shows a 
major peak at 11.4 ml (GE S200 column), which is calcuated to have a MW of 
144kD. There is a minor peak at 10.0 ml. In an effort to make nice looking 
pictures, I rerun the experiement using the same setup (column, buffer, 
protein, speed) and again the major peak is at 11.4 ml but it is calcuated to 
have a MW of 80KD. I rerun the sample multiple times with the same result. I 
tried to reprocess the old data and the calcuated MW is still 144KD. I am 
puzzled about what I have done wrong and which data I should trust. Well, I am 
inclined to trust the later experiment because I took extra caution and had 
multiple data sets. However, I should be able to reprocess the old data to have 
a MW close to 80KD if I can find out what is wrong and correct the mistake, 
which I have not been able to. Any suggestions?

Zhen Zhang


Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzle with MALS

2011-04-21 Thread zhen zhang

Hi Amir, Ade, Mark and Tom,

Thanks a lot for your replies. Checking with BSA is a great idea and I  
should've done it earlier. The BSA run for recent experiment is OK. I  
cannot find a standard profile for my experiment one year ago. So I  
guess that there was something wrong with the machine one year ago.  
Besides, as Tom pointed out, 144KD is way off the MW of dimer. So I am  
quite confident that I should use the new data.


BTW, the protein concentration is same. And it is a monomer-dimer  
equilibrium (11.4ml and 10.0ml).


Zhen



Quoting Amir Khan amirr...@tcd.ie:


Hi Zhen
-was concentration higher in old run? Might be monomer-dimer equilibrium,
for recent paper, see Benfield et al. (JBC, in press)
-we have a miniDAWN with a 'low-high-medium' setting in the back of   
the setting.

Inadvertently changing the setting scales the MW values up and down.
Have you run a BSA standard, to insure system is OK?
-Amir

From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of zhen   
zhang [zz2...@columbia.edu]

Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:32 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Puzzle with MALS

Dear All,

I am having a consistency issue processing my SEC-MALS data. The   
sample is a 80KD protein which may form a dimer. The experiment I   
run a year ago shows a major peak at 11.4 ml (GE S200 column), which  
 is calcuated to have a MW of 144kD. There is a minor peak at 10.0   
ml. In an effort to make nice looking pictures, I rerun the   
experiement using the same setup (column, buffer, protein, speed)   
and again the major peak is at 11.4 ml but it is calcuated to have a  
 MW of 80KD. I rerun the sample multiple times with the same result.  
 I tried to reprocess the old data and the calcuated MW is still   
144KD. I am puzzled about what I have done wrong and which data I   
should trust. Well, I am inclined to trust the later experiment   
because I took extra caution and had multiple data sets. However, I   
should be able to reprocess the old data to have a MW close to 80KD   
if I can find out what is wrong and correct the mistake, which I   
have not been able to. Any suggestions?


Zhen Zhang






Re: [ccp4bb] Map correlation coefficient

2011-04-21 Thread Maher Alayyoubi
Hi Everybody, I posted a question earlier on the bulletin regarding
how to calculate the map correlation coefficient using Overlapamp or
any other program? My follow up question is, does anybody know how to
calculate the map correlation coefficient for the main chain and side
chain separately?


Thank you


Maher




On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Maher Alayyoubi
maher.alayyo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everybody, I am a new user on the ccp4 bulletin, I have a question on how
 to calculate the map correlation coefficient using Overlapamp or any other
 program?
 Thank You,

 Maher


Re: [ccp4bb] Map correlation coefficient

2011-04-21 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Maher,

I posted a question earlier on the bulletin regarding
 how to calculate the map correlation coefficient using Overlapamp *or
 *
 *any other program*? My follow up question is, does anybody know how to
 calculate the map correlation coefficient for the main chain and side
 chain separately?


depending on resolution, the command

phenix.model_vs_data data.mtz model.pdb comprehensive=true

reports map CC either per atom or per residue. If it reports map CC per
atom, then knowing which atoms belong to main/side chains you can extract
the information you need. However, if the resolution of your data is low
enough so it outputs map CC computed per residue - then this doesn't answer
your question.

Good luck!
Pavel.


Re: [ccp4bb] Map correlation coefficient

2011-04-21 Thread Bjørn Panyella Pedersen

Hi Maher
My version of Overlapmap reports the CC for main chain and for side 
chain in the log-file (per residue and overall). Have you looked there?


-Bjørn

On 2011-04-21 14:25, Maher Alayyoubi wrote:

Hi Everybody, I posted a question earlier on the bulletin regarding
how to calculate the map correlation coefficient using Overlapamp or
any other program? My follow up question is, does anybody know how to
calculate the map correlation coefficient for the main chain and side
chain separately?


Thank you


Maher




On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Maher Alayyoubi
maher.alayyo...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi Everybody, I am a new user on the ccp4 bulletin, I have a question on how
to calculate the map correlation coefficient using Overlapamp or any other
program?
Thank You,

Maher