Re: [ccp4bb] research paper

2011-07-29 Thread Robbie Joosten
Jung-Hoon,

This is a so-called WaReZ request, which could get you banned a lot of webfora. 
Of course, we are all guilty of it at some occasions. The best way to get an 
article is to ask the authors, they are allowed give away free copies 
(depending on the journal I guess). Hooray, for authors who pay open access 
fees.

Cheers,
Robbie


 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:23:10 -0400
 From: f...@bernstein-plus-sons.com
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] research paper
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

 The article is available for purchase for $40. Journals
 cannot survive without funding which can come from many
 sources - subscriptions, author payment to make the
 article open-access, etc. But asking someone to provide
 a 'free' copy without Acta's permission is tantamount to
 theft.

 Frances Bernstein

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 On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Ed Pozharski wrote:

  On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 14:35 +, Jung-Hoon Lee wrote:
  Acta Cryst D63 (2007), 550-554.
 
  I can't believe Cornell has no access to Acta D.
 
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[ccp4bb] Serious error in Pointless versions 1.5.x, sincere apologies

2011-07-29 Thread Phil Evans
 Summary

There is a serious error in all the 1.5.x versions of Pointless for certain 
cases, fixed now in version 1.6.1 available now from our ftp site.
The wrong 1.5.x versions have been distributed by CCP4 in releases 6.1.24 and 
the recent 6.2.0, but earlier CCP4 releases (6.1.13 and before) contained 
earlier versions of Pointless (eg 1.4.x versions) which do not suffer from this 
bug. However I know that people have installed 1.5.x versions from our ftp 
site. 

I would like to apologise for problems caused by this error
mea culpa
Phil Evans

=== Corrected versions

ftp://ftp.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/pub/pre
pointless-1.6.1.linux   linux executable
pointless-1.6.1.osx10.6 osx 10.6 executable
pointless-1.6.1.tar.gz  source
pointless.html  doc

=== What cases does the bug affect?

The bug may scramble the order of symmetry operators relative to the ISYM flags 
on each observation (see below, technicalities), leading to an incorrect 
reconstruction of the original hkl indices in Scala or Aimless. This happens 
for MTZ input files (usually from Mosflm) integrated is the highest point group 
in higher symmetry lattices, specifically tetragonal 422, hexagonal 622, 
rhombohedral R32 and cubic 432, when the output file is also in the same point 
group. In these cases, the output file will be wrong even if Pointless is just 
copying from input to output (-c or COPY options)

The bug does NOT affect:
1) lower symmetry lattices (triclinic, monoclinic, orthorhombic)
2) data input or output in lower than maximum point group symmetry within the 
same Laue class (eg 4, 3, 321, 23, R3)  
3) XDS or other non-MTZ input

=== How serious is it?

Files with scrambled symmetry operators will lead to wrong reconstruction of 
the original indices which are used in Scala or Aimless to generate beam 
directions for the SECONDARY absorption correction. Thus the error will have 
the biggest effect on long wavelength data with substantial absorption, and 
have much less effect on typical short wavelength data. High multiplicity will 
also tend to average out the errors.

=== Technicalities

Unmerged MTZ files store for each observation the hkl indices reduced to the 
asymmetric unit and a flag ISYM which is the index into the list of space group 
symmetry operators stored in the file. This information can then be used to 
reconstruct the original hkl indices measured. This bug caused to order of the 
symmetry operators to be changed without changing the ISYM flags, leading to a 
wrong reconstruction of original hkl in Scala/Aimless, and hence wrong 
secondary beam directions for the absorption correction.


Re: [ccp4bb] pdb_extact and refmac5.6

2011-07-29 Thread Jasmine Young

Hello,

We are currently in the final stages of updating the standalone version of 
pdb_extract.

In the meantime, we encourage users to try the web server version of the program at 
http://pdb-extract.rcsb.org/


The PDB_extract will:
# provide you with an author information form, which can be saved/updated for 
multiple related entries
# assemble coordinate and log files pertaining to your specific experimental 
methods
# allow you to fix the primary sequence of your protein/nucleotide chains to account for 
unresolved residues
# output the coordinate (and structure factor files, if applicable) in mmCIF format for Validation 
and for deposition at RCSB ADIT or PDBj ADIT.


If the web version produces similar errors, please email the log file to use at 
depo...@deposit.rcsb.org and we will look into it.




Sincerely,

Jasmine



Jan Abendroth wrote:

Hi all,
we typically use pdb_extract to generate pdb files with a good header.
There seems to be an issue with logfiles from refmac5.6.0117, 
distributed with the current ccp4 version, and pdb_extract.


pdb_extract version-3.006 is distributed with ccp4-6.2.0. While reading 
the refmac log file, pdb_extract chokes with a segmentation fault. When 
run without reading in the refmac log file, the program complains about 
the following missing link, both in the linux and osx distribution of ccp4.


Can not open file 
(/usr/local/ccp4/ccp4-6.2.0/ccp4-6.2.0//src/harvest_app_/pdb_extract/pdb-extract-data/mmcif_pdbx_2.items) 
in get_lines_from_file


pdb_extract version-3.010, as downloaded form the rcsb webpage also 
chokes on the refmac5 logfile with a segmentation fault.


Any ideas how to treat the new refmac log files in pdb_extract?

Thanks a lot.
Jan


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[ccp4bb] Post-doc positions at Colorado State

2011-07-29 Thread Olve Peersen
This is a reposting of Post-doc ad with the full-consideration application 
deadline next week.  Note that there are multiple independent post-docs with 
projects involving mostly crystallography or mostly biochemistry.


===  Post-doctoral fellow positions in ubiquitin signaling and RNA virus 
replication  

The Peersen and Cohen laboratories at Colorado State University in Fort Collins 
are recruiting up to three post-doc positions for studies of macromolecular 
interactions and structure. The positions require a Ph.D. at time of hire with 
prior experience in protein biochemistry, molecular biology, or biophysical 
methods.

The Peersen lab projects are focused on the structures of viral RNA-dependent 
RNA polymerases and the assembly of membrane anchored replication centers 
formed by single stranded RNA viruses.  The projects will build on recent 
studies of viral elongation complexes (Gong  Peersen, PNAS 107:22505, Hobdey 
et al., J. Virology 84:8072) to further our understanding of polymerase 
function, replication fidelity, and higher order assemblies.  Previous 
experience in X-ray crystallography, RNA biochemistry, membrane systems, or 
fluorescence methods would be advantageous.

The Cohen laboratory position is to study mechanisms of signaling by 
polyubiquitin.  Recent work defined the linkage-specific avidity mechanism for 
polyubiquitin binding (Sims  Cohen, Mol Cell 33:775-783; Sims et al., Nat. 
Struct. Mol. Biol. 16:883-889).  Available projects include studies of 
polyubiquitin receptor proteins, development of linkage-specific polyubiquitin 
sensors, and investigation of the role of linkage-specificity in signaling by 
polyubiquitin in vivo. Candidates should have prior experience in protein 
biochemistry and molecular biology; familiarity with biophysical methods or 
mammalian cell culture is desirable.

Applications should be received by August 5, 2011 for full consideration.  
Interested individuals should submit a CV, statement of research and career 
interests, and contact information for three references at 


http://www.natsci.colostate.edu/employment/bmbPdoc/



CSU is an EO/EA/AA employer.  CSU conducts background checks on all final 
candidates.


Re: [ccp4bb] Fab:antigen complex crystallization!!!

2011-07-29 Thread xaravich ivan
Thanks everyone,
I got my crystals with PEG 8000 at first and after micro-seeding aith PEG
3350.Now I would work with all your suggestions and references with new
vigor.

ivan

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Patrick Shaw Stewart patr...@douglas.co.uk
 wrote:

 Ed (and Ivan)

 Peter Sun and colleagues published two papers where they show that
 crystallization conditions for protein-protein complexes are strongly
 biased towards PEG-based rather than high-salt or
 organic-solvent-based conditions. This includes antibody-antigen
 complexes.

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16699187
 http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?do0016

 I have heard anecdotally that the same is true of protein-peptide and
 protein-small molecule complexes, although I don't know of any
 systematic study.

 Can anyone shed light on this?

 I guess we can look in the Marseilles database

 Best wishes to all

 Patrick



 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu
 wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 05:07 +0100, Sean Seaver wrote:
   Spoiler - Fabs like ammonium sulfate.
 
  Not really - in my hands the ammonium sulfate was one hit out of 7.
 
  While Ivan's question is about Fab complexes with protein antigen, I
  think it brings up a more general question of protein class-dependent
  crystallization bias.  While some general trends exist for classes of
  biopolymers (e.g. MPD is number one precipitant for DNA; protein:DNA
  complexes tend to crystallize in PEG-based conditions), a general idea
  of assigning a preferred precipitant to a protein class is, imho,
  pointless.  Fabs are a good example - one would think that with half of
  the protein more or less the same in all instances some general trends
  should exist.  And perhaps they do, as this
 
  http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?S0907444999016224
 
  seems to suggest.  But alas, Fab crystallization conditions, once you
  look into it, appear to be just as diverse as the same for proteins in
  general.  Crystallization conditions may change radically upon point
  mutation, so why would one expect that a class of proteins sharing some
  50% identity will show unusual love for PEG, ammonium sulfate, sodium
  malonate or any other miracle precipitant?
 
  Consider this.  Thanks to great engineering at the Douglas Instruments,
  we can routinely set up ~1000 drops for a given protein.  If one of them
  shows a crystalline shower, we celebrate.  To me, the fact that we try
  wrong crystallization conditions 99.9% of the time, proves that any
  attempt to predict crystallization conditions beyond vague things like
  keep pH close to protein pI, sodium malonate is cool, PEG and
  ammonium sulfate are two most successful precipitants in history of
  protein crystallography, etc., is futile.  Time wasted on looking into
  what is the most common precipitant for a particular class of proteins
  is better spent on setting up more trays.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Ed.
 
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[ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Yuri
Dear all,
I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0. 
It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup 
file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...)
Best,


Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
I've had problems too. Some of the files are non-readable, so you need to
do a

sudo chmod -R a+r *

to make them readable. Also it looks like the libraries changed a bit (at
least for ADP).

Bernie

On Fri, July 29, 2011 2:08 pm, Yuri wrote:
 Dear all,
 I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
 It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup
 file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
 Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my
 part...)
 Best,



Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote:
 Dear all,
 I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0. 
 It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup 
 file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
 Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...)
 Best, 


It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to
source tsch script, which naturally fails.
Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead.

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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Yuri

I tried that too ... no success



On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote:

On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote:

Dear all,
I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
It says all I should do next is source the 
/setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot 
launch the program...
Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my 
part...)

Best,



It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying 
to

source tsch script, which naturally fails.
Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead.


--
Yuri Pompeu


Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Wei-Chun Kao
Hi,

where did you install CCP4? from the path of your setup-script it seems like
to be in the root (/) ?  It looks like the problem I posted some days before
but probably being buried in the middle of the other thread. Since it's more
related to this topic so I paste it again, hoping that it can solve your
question.

I recently found the problem that after finishing the installation of
CCP4-6.2.0 on RHEL5, if the installation destination is not the default path
(/usr/local/), the ccp4.setup for csh wouldn't take the customized TCLTK
path correctly. No matter if I used sh or csh to install the CCP4 package.
This would result in programs using wish failed to start (e.g., ccp4i) from
csh. Perhaps it's also related to the issue in this thread.

The way to solve this problem is to manually edit the ccp4.setup for csh and
correct the TCLTK path. If you have no idea you can just copy the correct
one in the ccp4.setup for sh.

Wei-Chun

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Yuri yuri.pom...@ufl.edu wrote:

 Dear all,
 I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
 It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup
 file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
 Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my
 part...)
 Best,




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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Yuri
  

yes, I noticed the default was TCLTK /usr/local/bin. I think it
should be /usr/local/username.../tcltkplusplus/bin 

Even after editing
this it doesnt launch. the command not found message is gone though 

On
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:02:22 +0200, Wei-Chun Kao wrote: 

 Hi, 
 where
did you install CCP4? from the path of your setup-script it seems like
to be in the root (/) ? It looks like the problem I posted some days
before but probably being buried in the middle of the other thread.
Since it's more related to this topic so I paste it again, hoping that
it can solve your question. 
 I recently found the problem that after
finishing the installation of CCP4-6.2.0 on RHEL5, if the installation
destination is not the default path (/usr/local/), the ccp4.setup for
csh wouldn't take the customized TCLTK path correctly. No matter if I
used sh or csh to install the CCP4 package. This would result in
programs using wish failed to start (e.g., ccp4i) from csh. Perhaps it's
also related to the issue in this thread. 
 
 The way to solve this
problem is to manually edit the ccp4.setup for csh and correct the TCLTK
path. If you have no idea you can just copy the correct one in the
ccp4.setup for sh. 
 Wei-Chun 
 
 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:08 PM,
Yuri wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 I have just downloaded and installed the
ccp4-6.2.0.
 It says all I should do next is source the
/setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot
launch the program...
 Any help is welcome...(it is probably something
really stupid on my part...)
 Best,
 
 -- 
 
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 TEL: +49-761-203-5277 
 Institute for Biochemistry and Molecular
Biology 
 Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg im Breisgau 

Stefan-Meier-Str. 17 
 D-79104 Freiburg im Breisgau 
 Germany

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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Yuri
  

I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I
can change environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh. 

I
tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I changed
the PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to usr/local/bin), I
type ccp4 and I get no error. I am a bit at loss 

with the sh setup I
tried sourcing and I get a command not found message, which leads me
to think I am not succeding in sourcing it. 

Someone mentioned
something about some files are not readable... 

I tried running the
executables in the /bin directory but nothing happens... 

Thank you


On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote: 

 What is the
output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error messages ?
Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about not being able
to locate a specific library.
 
 Can you launch the programs
independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to where the executables are
(CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin)
 
 ./mtzdump
 
 You should see some output
giving the program version etc. and a list of keyword options. If so,
the installation is probably OK and as Ed suggested it could be an
environment problem. Why don't you outline the specific steps you've
taken so far during installation and environment set up - what shell are
you using ? did you download the source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk
version are you using and where did you get it from ?
 
 I can help
with this, off the board and then if we find a solution you can post it
on the BB.
 
 Iain
 
 On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote: 
 
 I
tried that too ... no success 
 
 On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58
-0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: 
 
 On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100,
Yuri wrote: 
 
 Dear all, 
 I have just downloaded and
installed the ccp4-6.2.0. 
 It says all I should do next is source
the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot
launch the program... 
 Any help is welcome...(it is probably
something really stupid on my part...) 
 Best,
 
 It is most
likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to 
 source
tsch script, which naturally fails. 
 Try
/setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead.

-- 
Yuri Pompeu