Re: [ccp4bb] The binding between disordered and ordered proteins

2013-10-21 Thread Clement Angkawidjaja

Dear Dee,

Some proteins with chaperone-like activity (perhaps your B?) can only 
bind to partially folded proteins.
Probably A folds to a molten globule structure after 1-2 days. You can 
check by spectroscopic techniques (ANS or Trp fluorescence, CD).

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Clement

On 10/22/13 11:10 AM, Xiaodi Yu wrote:

Dear All:

I have a general question about protein- protein interactions. I have 
two proteins, A and B. A is a disordered protein while B is a well 
folded protein. The binding between A and B has been approved by 
GST-pull down assay previously. The strange thing is I cannot get them 
bind if protein A were just freshly prepared. However, if I kept these 
two proteins separately for one or two days at 4 degree and then did 
the GST-pull down assay again, I can observe very strong interaction 
between A and B.


Protein A doesn't contain any cys residue. I have already test certain 
chemicals which might affect the interactions, for example, DTT and 
EDTA. These chemicals seems to have no effect on the binding.


Although A is a disordered protein, does it need such long time to 
find its proper conformation?


Do any people have similar experience? Any suggestions are greatly 
appreciated.


Thanks,

Dee




[ccp4bb] The binding between disordered and ordered proteins

2013-10-21 Thread Xiaodi Yu
Dear All:

I have a general question about protein- protein interactions. I have two 
proteins, A and B. A is a disordered protein while B is a well folded protein. 
The binding between A and B has been approved by GST-pull down assay 
previously. The strange thing is I cannot get them bind if protein A were just 
freshly prepared. However, if I kept these two proteins separately for one or 
two days at 4 degree and then did the GST-pull down assay again, I can observe 
very strong interaction between A and B. 

Protein A doesn't contain any cys residue. I have already test certain 
chemicals which might affect the interactions, for example, DTT and EDTA. These 
chemicals seems to have no effect on the binding. 

Although A is a disordered protein, does it need such long time to find its 
proper conformation?

Do any people have similar experience? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dee
  

Re: [ccp4bb] [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement using low sequence identity templates

2013-10-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I guess my experience is out of date - please ignore comments on LLG!
Eleanor

On 21 October 2013 15:40, Randy Read  wrote:
> Hi Eleanor,
>
> Yes, the initial LLG scores in Phaser are highly dependent on the assigned 
> sequence identity, which is translated into an initial estimate of the 
> effective RMSD of the model.  However, the latest versions of Phaser refine 
> the RMSD estimate at the end of the job and, assuming that two runs find the 
> same solution and the refinement manages to converge (which it usually does 
> these days), the LLG at the end should be pretty reproducible regardless of 
> the assigned sequence identity.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Randy
>
> On 21 Oct 2013, at 14:42, Eleanor Dodson  wrote:
>
>> I dont know about LLG scores - they seem extremely variable depending
>> on the degree of sequence similarity you assign.
>> However when you get an R/Rfree of 40%/47% that is a pretty good sign
>> that at least something is correct.
>>
>> It isnt clear whether that is after you have placed 2 copies of the
>> second component?
>> Anyway - maybe try again with the refined component 2 and look for
>> component 1 again?
>> Eleanor
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 October 2013 15:51,   wrote:
>>> Dear Jan,
>>>
>>> There are a few things a would do in this case. The first is to check the 
>>> processing to make sure the space group is really C2 and, although 
>>> unlikely, not some other space group.
>>>
>>> The second thing would be to try to place the first component. From your 
>>> email it is not clear to me whether or not you were able to place the first 
>>> component after the second component had been placed. In your case, I would 
>>> give both components to phaser and ask phaser to first place component 2 
>>> and then component 1.
>>>
>>> It might be that the correct solution gets rejected because of clashes, so 
>>> I would also try to trim the first component, or to increase the number of 
>>> allowed clashes in Phaser. Although you expect two copies of your 
>>> heterodimer, you may have a crystal with a high solvent content and only  
>>> one dimer in the asymmetric unit. In this case the crystal packing should 
>>> make sense i.e. continuous crystal contacts in all three dimensions.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Herman
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Jan 
>>> Félix
>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Oktober 2013 13:17
>>> An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>> Betreff: [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement using low sequence identity 
>>> templates
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> I have a question regarding Molecular Replacement using low sequence 
>>> identity templates.
>>>
>>> I have a 2.7 Angstrom dataset of a heterodimeric protein-protein complex 
>>> (space group C 1 2 1, no twinning detected using xtriage). For the first 
>>> component homologs are available, but for the other the best found template 
>>> only has 20 % sequence similarity.
>>> Strangely, I cannot place the first component directly, but the second 
>>> component can be placed (after trimming the template with chainsaw) using 
>>> phaser with a TFZ score of 12 and a LLG of about 1200. Although at least 2 
>>> NCS copies of the heterodimer are expected based on the unit cell 
>>> parameters, only 1 copy of the second component gets placed.
>>> If I try to place the first component based on the .sol file of the first 
>>> MR solution, the TFZ score for the second placement is only about 3.5, but 
>>> if I then try to place this second MR solution (2
>>> components) as a whole I get a RFZ of 8, TFZ of 16 and a LLG of about 1000.
>>>
>>> However, none of the MR solutions I obtained seems to refine in PHENIX. 
>>> Using autobuild does not lower the R/Rfree values which seem to get stuck 
>>> at an R/Rfree of 0.40/0.47. I have tried trimming off loops, simulated 
>>> annealing, DEN-refinement, morphing and MR-rosetta, but nothing seems to 
>>> improve the model..
>>> Also, in every MR solution only half of the asymmetric unit seems to be 
>>> filled, but phaser fails to place more units..As I am seriously starting to 
>>> doubt the actual content of the crystals,  I tried Nearest Cell to search 
>>> for similar space group, but without any hits.
>>>
>>> So here is my question.  Is it possible to get TFZ/LLG values this high in 
>>> C 1 2 1 with a completely incorrect model by chance, or can I assume that 
>>> this MR solution points out that what I think is in the crystal is actually 
>>> there?
>>> And secondly, as I am a bit stuck here, are there any new strategies I can 
>>> try to tackle this problem?
>>> Off course, experimental phasing is an option, but the crystals grew slowly 
>>> over e few months and I only had 1 drop with 1 crystal, so reproducing the 
>>> crystals might be though..
>>>
>>> Thanks for any tips and best regards,
>>>
>>> Jan
>
> --
> Randy J. Read
> Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge
> Cambridge Institute for Medical Research  Tel: + 44 12

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Re: [ccp4bb] [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement using low sequence identity templates

2013-10-21 Thread Randy Read
Hi Eleanor,

Yes, the initial LLG scores in Phaser are highly dependent on the assigned 
sequence identity, which is translated into an initial estimate of the 
effective RMSD of the model.  However, the latest versions of Phaser refine the 
RMSD estimate at the end of the job and, assuming that two runs find the same 
solution and the refinement manages to converge (which it usually does these 
days), the LLG at the end should be pretty reproducible regardless of the 
assigned sequence identity.

Best wishes,

Randy

On 21 Oct 2013, at 14:42, Eleanor Dodson  wrote:

> I dont know about LLG scores - they seem extremely variable depending
> on the degree of sequence similarity you assign.
> However when you get an R/Rfree of 40%/47% that is a pretty good sign
> that at least something is correct.
> 
> It isnt clear whether that is after you have placed 2 copies of the
> second component?
> Anyway - maybe try again with the refined component 2 and look for
> component 1 again?
> Eleanor
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 October 2013 15:51,   wrote:
>> Dear Jan,
>> 
>> There are a few things a would do in this case. The first is to check the 
>> processing to make sure the space group is really C2 and, although unlikely, 
>> not some other space group.
>> 
>> The second thing would be to try to place the first component. From your 
>> email it is not clear to me whether or not you were able to place the first 
>> component after the second component had been placed. In your case, I would 
>> give both components to phaser and ask phaser to first place component 2 and 
>> then component 1.
>> 
>> It might be that the correct solution gets rejected because of clashes, so I 
>> would also try to trim the first component, or to increase the number of 
>> allowed clashes in Phaser. Although you expect two copies of your 
>> heterodimer, you may have a crystal with a high solvent content and only  
>> one dimer in the asymmetric unit. In this case the crystal packing should 
>> make sense i.e. continuous crystal contacts in all three dimensions.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Herman
>> 
>> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Jan 
>> Félix
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Oktober 2013 13:17
>> An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Betreff: [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement using low sequence identity templates
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> I have a question regarding Molecular Replacement using low sequence 
>> identity templates.
>> 
>> I have a 2.7 Angstrom dataset of a heterodimeric protein-protein complex 
>> (space group C 1 2 1, no twinning detected using xtriage). For the first 
>> component homologs are available, but for the other the best found template 
>> only has 20 % sequence similarity.
>> Strangely, I cannot place the first component directly, but the second 
>> component can be placed (after trimming the template with chainsaw) using 
>> phaser with a TFZ score of 12 and a LLG of about 1200. Although at least 2 
>> NCS copies of the heterodimer are expected based on the unit cell 
>> parameters, only 1 copy of the second component gets placed.
>> If I try to place the first component based on the .sol file of the first MR 
>> solution, the TFZ score for the second placement is only about 3.5, but if I 
>> then try to place this second MR solution (2
>> components) as a whole I get a RFZ of 8, TFZ of 16 and a LLG of about 1000.
>> 
>> However, none of the MR solutions I obtained seems to refine in PHENIX. 
>> Using autobuild does not lower the R/Rfree values which seem to get stuck at 
>> an R/Rfree of 0.40/0.47. I have tried trimming off loops, simulated 
>> annealing, DEN-refinement, morphing and MR-rosetta, but nothing seems to 
>> improve the model..
>> Also, in every MR solution only half of the asymmetric unit seems to be 
>> filled, but phaser fails to place more units..As I am seriously starting to 
>> doubt the actual content of the crystals,  I tried Nearest Cell to search 
>> for similar space group, but without any hits.
>> 
>> So here is my question.  Is it possible to get TFZ/LLG values this high in C 
>> 1 2 1 with a completely incorrect model by chance, or can I assume that this 
>> MR solution points out that what I think is in the crystal is actually there?
>> And secondly, as I am a bit stuck here, are there any new strategies I can 
>> try to tackle this problem?
>> Off course, experimental phasing is an option, but the crystals grew slowly 
>> over e few months and I only had 1 drop with 1 crystal, so reproducing the 
>> crystals might be though..
>> 
>> Thanks for any tips and best regards,
>> 
>> Jan

--
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Cambridge Institute for Medical Research  Tel: + 44 1223 336500
Wellcome Trust/MRC Building   Fax: + 44 1223 336827
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Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement using low sequence identity templates

2013-10-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I dont know about LLG scores - they seem extremely variable depending
on the degree of sequence similarity you assign.
However when you get an R/Rfree of 40%/47% that is a pretty good sign
that at least something is correct.

It isnt clear whether that is after you have placed 2 copies of the
second component?
Anyway - maybe try again with the refined component 2 and look for
component 1 again?
Eleanor



On 18 October 2013 15:51,   wrote:
> Dear Jan,
>
> There are a few things a would do in this case. The first is to check the 
> processing to make sure the space group is really C2 and, although unlikely, 
> not some other space group.
>
> The second thing would be to try to place the first component. From your 
> email it is not clear to me whether or not you were able to place the first 
> component after the second component had been placed. In your case, I would 
> give both components to phaser and ask phaser to first place component 2 and 
> then component 1.
>
> It might be that the correct solution gets rejected because of clashes, so I 
> would also try to trim the first component, or to increase the number of 
> allowed clashes in Phaser. Although you expect two copies of your 
> heterodimer, you may have a crystal with a high solvent content and only  one 
> dimer in the asymmetric unit. In this case the crystal packing should make 
> sense i.e. continuous crystal contacts in all three dimensions.
>
> Best,
> Herman
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Jan 
> Félix
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Oktober 2013 13:17
> An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Betreff: [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement using low sequence identity templates
>
> Dear all,
> I have a question regarding Molecular Replacement using low sequence identity 
> templates.
>
> I have a 2.7 Angstrom dataset of a heterodimeric protein-protein complex 
> (space group C 1 2 1, no twinning detected using xtriage). For the first 
> component homologs are available, but for the other the best found template 
> only has 20 % sequence similarity.
> Strangely, I cannot place the first component directly, but the second 
> component can be placed (after trimming the template with chainsaw) using 
> phaser with a TFZ score of 12 and a LLG of about 1200. Although at least 2 
> NCS copies of the heterodimer are expected based on the unit cell parameters, 
> only 1 copy of the second component gets placed.
> If I try to place the first component based on the .sol file of the first MR 
> solution, the TFZ score for the second placement is only about 3.5, but if I 
> then try to place this second MR solution (2
> components) as a whole I get a RFZ of 8, TFZ of 16 and a LLG of about 1000.
>
> However, none of the MR solutions I obtained seems to refine in PHENIX. Using 
> autobuild does not lower the R/Rfree values which seem to get stuck at an 
> R/Rfree of 0.40/0.47. I have tried trimming off loops, simulated annealing, 
> DEN-refinement, morphing and MR-rosetta, but nothing seems to improve the 
> model..
> Also, in every MR solution only half of the asymmetric unit seems to be 
> filled, but phaser fails to place more units..As I am seriously starting to 
> doubt the actual content of the crystals,  I tried Nearest Cell to search for 
> similar space group, but without any hits.
>
> So here is my question.  Is it possible to get TFZ/LLG values this high in C 
> 1 2 1 with a completely incorrect model by chance, or can I assume that this 
> MR solution points out that what I think is in the crystal is actually there?
> And secondly, as I am a bit stuck here, are there any new strategies I can 
> try to tackle this problem?
> Off course, experimental phasing is an option, but the crystals grew slowly 
> over e few months and I only had 1 drop with 1 crystal, so reproducing the 
> crystals might be though..
>
> Thanks for any tips and best regards,
>
> Jan


Re: [ccp4bb] changes in small sections of secondary structure

2013-10-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Being of an untrusting disposition, I would ask your collaborator for
the reflection data as well as the PDBs - it is always a good idea to
look at the maps when there is some unexpected structural feature! -
The DB provides an electron density server, if the structures have
been deposited, otherwise it is straightforward to generate a map
yourself and look at it in coot.
Eleanor Dodson

On 21 October 2013 13:53, Antony Oliver  wrote:
> Dear Mahesh,
>
> Are all the structures at similar resolution?  Definition of secondary 
> structure is, and can be, affected by the level of geometric 
> restraints/constraints used in the refinement process.
>
> Tony.
>
> ---
> Dr Antony W Oliver
> Senior Research Fellow
> CR-UK DNA Repair Enzymes Group
> Genome Damage and Stability Centre
> Science Park Road
> University of Sussex
> Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9RQ
>
> email: antony.oli...@sussex.ac.uk
> tel (office): +44 (0)1273 678349
> tel (lab): +44 (0)1273 677512
>
> On Oct 21, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Mahesh Lingaraju wrote:
>
>> Hello experts
>>
>> Thanks for your insights.
>> For one of the structures, it turned out to be a rendering issue by pymol 
>> like matt pointed out. For the other, the residues are clearly in a less 
>> than ideal position. Even if I see deviation from the RMSD plots, i cannot 
>> be sure that the structure were refined ideally at those positions ( those 
>> are not my structures, i just have the pdb files from my collaborator).
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Mahesh
>>
>> P.S from what all of you are saying it sounds like those changes are not 
>> real, if I find that they could be Ill let everyone know.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


Re: [ccp4bb] changes in small sections of secondary structure

2013-10-21 Thread Antony Oliver
Dear Mahesh,

Are all the structures at similar resolution?  Definition of secondary 
structure is, and can be, affected by the level of geometric 
restraints/constraints used in the refinement process.

Tony.

---
Dr Antony W Oliver
Senior Research Fellow
CR-UK DNA Repair Enzymes Group
Genome Damage and Stability Centre
Science Park Road
University of Sussex
Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9RQ

email: antony.oli...@sussex.ac.uk
tel (office): +44 (0)1273 678349
tel (lab): +44 (0)1273 677512

On Oct 21, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Mahesh Lingaraju wrote:

> Hello experts 
> 
> Thanks for your insights. 
> For one of the structures, it turned out to be a rendering issue by pymol 
> like matt pointed out. For the other, the residues are clearly in a less than 
> ideal position. Even if I see deviation from the RMSD plots, i cannot be sure 
> that the structure were refined ideally at those positions ( those are not my 
> structures, i just have the pdb files from my collaborator). 
> 
> Thanks again, 
> 
> Mahesh
> 
> P.S from what all of you are saying it sounds like those changes are not 
> real, if I find that they could be Ill let everyone know. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-21 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
As a postscript it might be worth mentioning one problematic ligand that 
suggested to me a way to correct some of the errors mentioned in this thread
 
R12 is indicated as 9-(4-HYDROXY-2,6-DIMETHYL-PHENYL)-3 in the  most recent 
Coot monomer library. But in the PDB ligand description it is 
9-(4-hydroxy-2,3,6-trimethylphenyl)-3,7-dimethylnona-2,4,6,8-tetraenoic acid 
with an additional carbon C16. To make a long story short this ligand was 
originally deposited missing this extra methyl goup in 1999 (as part of 3CBS) 
and then apparently updated in 2011 by the PDB.

(the relevant lines in the cif are
<>
R12 C16 C16 C 0 1 N N N ?      ?      ?      -6.631 1.502  0.990  C16 R12 44 
R12 H1  H1  H 0 1 N N N ?      ?      ?      -6.602 1.511  2.080  H1  R12 45 
R12 H23 H23 H 0 1 N N N ?      ?      ?      -6.422 2.503  0.613  H23 R12 46 
R12 H24 H24 H 0 1 N N N ?      ?      ?      -7.619 1.186  0.656  H24 R12 47 
<> 

with the ? ? ? indicating that refined coordinates were not available at the 
time of the update. There was initially an explanation line at the end of the 
cif:

<>
R12 "Other modification" 2011-10-25 RCSB CS 'add missing methyl group, 
re-define bond order based on publication'
<>

But this has mutated for some reason (premature stop codon?) over the past year 
to the following.

<>  
R12 "Other modification" 2011-10-25 RCSB 
<>

Obviously the full correct ligand could not have been incorporated into the PDB 
entry coordinates without these undergoing a full obsolete - supersede process 
(somewhat embarrassing perhaps as one author is now a wwPDB PI ;)

But it is frustrating for users of the PDB that in such cases easily 
correctable errors are not actually updated by the authors. Would it not be 
helpful if there were a mechanism to make and track useful improvements in 
deposited structures? - Perhaps suggested by members of the community to the 
authors. 

These changes could be considered as 'corrigenda' and could be documented and 
tracked - complete with an explanation of the reasoning behind the change and 
attributing the motivation and origin of the improvement.

This would be a good way for the wider scientific community (who maybe do not 
read this bulletin board) to access the best current model without the authors 
suffering the full process of retracting and redepositing their PDB entry. The 
test for obsoleting would then be the same as for a paper - that the change 
invalidates a fundamental interpretation of the data. 

All the best
  Martyn 



 From: Pavel Afonine 
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Sent: Sunday, 20 October 2013, 19:49
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs
 


Hello,

just for the sake of completeness: this paper lists a bunch of known 
pathologies (I would not be surprised if they've been remediated by now):

http://www.phenix-online.org/papers/he5476_reprint.pdf


Pavel



On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Lucas  wrote:

Dear all,
>
>I've been lecturing in a structural bioinformatics course where graduate 
>students (always consisting of people without crystallography background to 
>that point) are expected to understand the basics on how x-ray structures are 
>obtained, so that they know what they are using in their bioinformatics 
>projects. Practices include letting them manually build a segment from an 
>excellent map and also using Coot to check problems in not so good structures.
>
>I wonder if there's a list of problematic structures somewhere that I could 
>use for that practice? Apart from a few ones I'm aware of because of (bad) 
>publicity, what I usually do is an advanced search on PDB for entries with 
>poor resolution and bound ligands, then checking then manually, hopefully 
>finding some examples of creative map interpretation. But it would be nice to 
>have specific examples for each thing that can go wrong in a PDB construction.
>
>Best regards,
>Lucas
>

Re: [ccp4bb] changes in small sections of secondary structure

2013-10-21 Thread Mahesh Lingaraju
Hello experts

Thanks for your insights.
For one of the structures, it turned out to be a rendering issue by pymol
like matt pointed out. For the other, the residues are clearly in a less
than ideal position. Even if I see deviation from the RMSD plots, i cannot
be sure that the structure were refined ideally at those positions ( those
are not my structures, i just have the pdb files from my collaborator).

Thanks again,

Mahesh

P.S from what all of you are saying it sounds like those changes are not
real, if I find that they could be Ill let everyone know.




>


Re: [ccp4bb] changes in small sections of secondary structure

2013-10-21 Thread Dom Bellini
Dear Mahesh,

You could also run the CCP4 program CONTACT/ACT (Tadeusz Skarzynski & Andrew 
Leslie/Wojtek Rypniewski & Howard Terry) for inter residue contacts and compare 
the NH-OC bonds in the different structures.

Best,

D

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Swastik 
Phulera
Sent: 21 October 2013 07:52
To: ccp4bb
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] changes in small sections of secondary structure

Dear Mahesh,
Instead of bothering with the secondary structure assignments why may try to 
superpose your structures and then view your RMSD plots(Superpose program in 
CCP4 can do the trick). You might then be better off focusing on the regions 
with high RMSD.
Regards


On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 3:20 AM, krish  wrote:
> Hi Mahesh,
>
> If you have made these screen shots using pymol, then you really need 
> to be careful before you jump to conclude anything from these 
> secondary structural changes (Matt already mentioned it). Assign 
> secondary structures using DSSP or see the secondary structure restraints in 
> the structure while refining.
> Manual refining of these areas is really important (I mean careful
> inspection) and once you think these regions you highlighted have 
> proper restraints, then you can conclude to a CERTAIN extent.
>
> I would perform MD simulation runs after energy minimization for each 
> structure for 10 to 15 nanoseconds and see whether these small 
> perturbations (what you have depicted) are really there. These runs 
> with identical parameters should give you clear hints how much your 
> protein in different states is stable with time. Also, you can figure 
> out other structural changes with longer simulation times if at all if your 
> protein is dynamic.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Krish
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> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Mahesh Lingaraju  wrote:
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>> Hello experts
>>
>> Attached is an image showing different crystal structures of the same 
>> protein in diffrent states (mutant vs substrate bound vs unliganded)  
>> and highlighted are little changes in secondary structure. I was 
>> wondering how real such small changes are and if they are real could 
>> they be enough to perturb the energy potential of the protein significantly.
>> I apologize if this is a naive question as this is clearly not my 
>> area of expertise.
>>
>> Thanks for your input
>>
>> Mahesh
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Re: [ccp4bb] changes in small sections of secondary structure

2013-10-21 Thread Danilo Belviso

Dear Mahesh,

In addition to RMSD plots, you could try to quantitatively analyse the 
protein residue flexibility in order to detect backbone conformational 
transitions by means of the method proposed in:


Local Fluctuations and Conformational Transitions in Proteins
Rocco Caliandro, Giulia Rossetti, and Paolo Carloni
J. Chem. Theory Comput. 2012, 8, 4775−4785

By starting from a set of several models of the same protein, the 
method allows to detect the "hinge points" of the protein and the 
residues where transitions between two different conformational states 
occur.


However, by inspecting your picture, also I am not convinced that they 
are alterations of the protein, but rather inconsistency in assignment 
of secondary structure.


Danilo


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