Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding Patents

2017-11-04 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
There are some interesting anti-patent initiatives

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent#Anti-patent_initiatives


including prizes as an alternative to patents

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prizes_as_an_alternative_to_patents#Other_areas_for_prize_models_over_patents



On 4 November 2017 at 15:08, Bernhard Rupp  wrote:

> > to publish it so the world can benefit from it.
>
> Isn’t that exactly the idea of a patent? Instead of keeping the invention
>
> a trade secret (occasionally a viable alternative) you publish the
> invention,
>
> and the inventor (and in general, the supporting institutions) can get
>
> rewarded if someone plans to use the idea commercially. Someone
>
> (in academia often the tax payer) did pay for the work after all, and
> having
>
> an option to recover the money (or god forbid, make a profit…) seems
>
> a reasonable proposition….
>
>
>
> Best, BR
>
>
>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of 
> *Abhishek
> Anan
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 4, 2017 05:31
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding Patents
>
>
>
> I second Gert's thoughts
>
> Best,
>
> Abhishek
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Gert Vriend 
> wrote:
>
> A related question. If you have a crystal structure and found a novel
> ligand binding site that can be used to regulate protein activity, could
> you patent such "binding site"? If not, how to make the best use of such
> findings?
>
>
> I would say that the best one can do with important novel
> data/information/knowledge/insights is to publish it so the world can
> benefit from it.
>
> Gert
>
>
>



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Re: [ccp4bb] software to map surface residues

2017-11-04 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Kai,

the output of the CCP4 program 'surface' lists the "accessible area of atom".
Without trying I'd extract those residues with a non-zero entry there.

Regards,
Tim

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:59:03 AM CET Kai Zhou wrote:
> Hello, is there an existing program that can extract the 3D coordinates of
> the surface residues of a given protein/PDB file? Thanks so much~~
> 
> Kai
> 
> Buck Institute

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Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding Patents

2017-11-04 Thread Bernhard Rupp
> to publish it so the world can benefit from it.



Isn’t that exactly the idea of a patent? Instead of keeping the invention

a trade secret (occasionally a viable alternative) you publish the invention,

and the inventor (and in general, the supporting institutions) can get

rewarded if someone plans to use the idea commercially. Someone

(in academia often the tax payer) did pay for the work after all, and having

an option to recover the money (or god forbid, make a profit…) seems

a reasonable proposition….

 

Best, BR

 

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Abhishek 
Anan
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 05:31
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding Patents

 

I second Gert's thoughts

Best,

Abhishek

 

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Gert Vriend  > wrote:

A related question. If you have a crystal structure and found a novel ligand 
binding site that can be used to regulate protein activity, could you patent 
such "binding site"? If not, how to make the best use of such findings?


I would say that the best one can do with important novel 
data/information/knowledge/insights is to publish it so the world can benefit 
from it.

Gert

 



Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding Patents

2017-11-04 Thread Abhishek Anan
I second Gert's thoughts

Best,
Abhishek

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Gert Vriend 
wrote:

> A related question. If you have a crystal structure and found a novel
>> ligand binding site that can be used to regulate protein activity, could
>> you patent such "binding site"? If not, how to make the best use of such
>> findings?
>>
>
> I would say that the best one can do with important novel
> data/information/knowledge/insights is to publish it so the world can
> benefit from it.
>
> Gert
>


[ccp4bb] Regarding Patents

2017-11-04 Thread Gert Vriend
A related question. If you have a crystal structure and found a novel 
ligand binding site that can be used to regulate protein activity, 
could you patent such "binding site"? If not, how to make the best use 
of such findings?


I would say that the best one can do with important novel 
data/information/knowledge/insights is to publish it so the world can 
benefit from it.


Gert