[ccp4bb] 10 mM Na Acetate buffer preparation

2012-02-03 Thread megha goyal
Our recombinant product is formulated in 10 mM sodium acetate buffer at pH
4.0 and the std composition mentions sodium 0.035 mg and acetate 0.59 mg
per ml of sample. It mentions Sodium acetate is formed by titrating glacial
acetic acid with sodium hydroxide.

Can anyone guide me on how this 10 mM buffer is prepared or on its
calculation.

 What currently I do is the old method that we have been following i.,eUse
0.123 mg Na Acetate trihydrate + 0.476 µl Gl. Acetic acid, adjust pH to 4.0
using 5 N NaOH. But we do not know how these values have been arrived at
and if this calculation is correct.

 Please guide me with this regards. Any help on this will be highly
appreciated.


thanks,


Megha


Re: [ccp4bb] 10 mM Na Acetate buffer preparation

2012-02-03 Thread William G. Scott
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henderson–Hasselbalch_equation

or any intro chemistry text


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA
 

On Feb 3, 2012, at 6:42 PM, megha goyal wrote:

 Our recombinant product is formulated in 10 mM sodium acetate buffer at pH 
 4.0 and the std composition mentions sodium 0.035 mg and acetate 0.59 mg per 
 ml of sample. It mentions Sodium acetate is formed by titrating glacial 
 acetic acid with sodium hydroxide.
 
 Can anyone guide me on how this 10 mM buffer is prepared or on its 
 calculation.
 
  What currently I do is the old method that we have been following i.,e
 Use 0.123 mg Na Acetate trihydrate + 0.476 µl Gl. Acetic acid, adjust pH to 
 4.0 using 5 N NaOH. But we do not know how these values have been arrived at 
 and if this calculation is correct.
 
  Please guide me with this regards. Any help on this will be highly 
 appreciated.
 
 
 
 thanks,
 
 
 
 
 Megha
 


Re: [ccp4bb] 10 mM Na Acetate buffer preparation

2012-02-03 Thread Edward A. Berry

megha goyal wrote:

Our recombinant product is formulated in 10 mM sodium acetate buffer at pH 4.0 
and the std
composition mentions sodium 0.035 mg and acetate 0.59 mg per ml of sample. It 
mentions
Sodium acetate is formed by titrating glacial acetic acid with sodium hydroxide.

Can anyone guide me on how this 10 mM buffer is prepared or on its calculation.

  What currently I do is the old method that we have been following i.,eUse 
0.123 mg
Na Acetate trihydrate + 0.476 µl Gl. Acetic acid, adjust pH to 4.0 using 5 N 
NaOH. But we
do not know how these values have been arrived at and if this calculation is 
correct.

  Please guide me with this regards. Any help on this will be highly 
appreciated.



Well, by convention the concentration of a buffer refers to the concentration of the 
buffering species, OAc- in this case. So the sum of NaOAc and HOAc should be 10 mM.

If the MW of NaOAc(H2O)3 is 136, then .1123 mg is 0.90 umol.

Density of HOAc is 1.049, and MW is 60.05, so assuming 100%
it is 1049/60.05=17.47 M,
so 0.476 ul HOAc is 8.35 umol
8.35 umol + 0.90 umol = 9.25 umol, which in 925 ul will be .01 M = 10 mM

So if you finally dilute to 0.925 ml, the concentration will be right.
If you only add NaOH to get the right pH, composition will be right.

But volume and weight can be measured much more accurately and
reproducibly than pH, and pKa is affected by ionic strength,
so if you use the equilibrium expression for dissociation
of a weak acid (AKA Hendersen Hasselbach) to calulate the
proportions of NaOAc and acetic acid that will give the right pH
at your final dilution, you will probably get more aurate pH
and definitely more reproducible.

x=[OAc]/[HOAc] = 1/H+ = 10^(pH-pK)

OAc/Conc = OAc/(Oac+HOAc) = 1/(1+1/x)

  [OAc] = Conc/(1+1/x)

HOAc/Conc = HOAc/(OAc+HOAc) = 1/(1+x)

  [HOAc] = Conc/(1+x)

All you need to know is
desired concentration (Conc),
desired pH
pKa of the buffer at final ionic strength and temperature.

(Or just google for a good buffer calculator)