Re: [ccp4bb] A quick question - monomer lib cif

2011-01-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 11:30 +0800, Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI wrote:
 how can I obtain a monomer library CIF (_lib.cif) of
 a new small molecule that could be recognized by Refmac5? 


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[ccp4bb] A quick question - monomer lib cif

2011-01-05 Thread Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI
Dear all experts,

Just a simple question, how can I obtain a monomer library CIF (_lib.cif) of
a new small molecule that could be recognized by Refmac5? If i have a CCDC cif
file.

many thanks

stephen

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Department of Chemistry,
The University of Hong Kong, Pokfulam Road,
Hong Kong SAR, China.
Tel: 22415814 (Office), 22415818 (X-ray Diffraction Laboratory)


Re: [ccp4bb] A quick question - monomer lib cif

2011-01-05 Thread Sampath Natarajan
Dear Stephen,

First you change cife file to pdb file of your structure using CCDC mercury
program. It's freely available in the CCDC site. Then use CCP4 Sketcher
program to create the monomer library file with the pdb file of your
structure.

 Wishes,
Sampath N




2011/1/5 Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI chui...@hkucc.hku.hk

 Dear all experts,

 Just a simple question, how can I obtain a monomer library CIF
 (_lib.cif) of
 a new small molecule that could be recognized by Refmac5? If i have a CCDC
 cif
 file.

 many thanks

 stephen

 --
 Dr. Stephen Sin-Yin Chui (徐先賢)
 Assistant Professor,
 Department of Chemistry,
 The University of Hong Kong, Pokfulam Road,
 Hong Kong SAR, China.
 Tel: 22415814 (Office), 22415818 (X-ray Diffraction Laboratory)




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Fax: 82-2-444-6707
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Re: [ccp4bb] A quick question - monomer lib cif

2011-01-05 Thread Matthias Zebisch

Dear Stephen,

a cif from CCDC is something totally different from a refmac CIF.
You need to convert to PDB (you can also use MOE software if available).

When you have built in your small molecule PDB into your whole model you 
just run refmac.


Refmac will fail but write out a suggestion for a molecular description 
cif file.


You simply edit this cif file using bond lengths and angles from the 
CCDC structure

(i use pymol for analysis).

Through out wrong or weird info (often torsion restraints and 
stereoisomer info) and use

the edited cif file as library input in a new Refmac run.

Good luck,

Matthias




Am 06.01.2011 04:30, schrieb Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI:

Dear all experts,

Just a simple question, how can I obtain a monomer library CIF (_lib.cif) of
a new small molecule that could be recognized by Refmac5? If i have a CCDC cif
file.

many thanks

stephen




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