Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to ChemDraw 3D

2010-02-09 Thread Sean Seaver
 You can build any 3D molecule easily in Discovery Studio Visualizer - It
is free but  not for Mac OS

I have been pretty impressed with Discovery Studio Visualizer and feel that
it can serve as a nice compliment to Pymol.  

I wrote up a brief overview and comparison between the two programs here:

http://bit.ly/QgvNL

I also covered the selection feature in DSV:

http://bit.ly/4UIzcd

Cheers,

Sean


Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to ChemDraw 3D?

2010-02-09 Thread William G. Scott
On Feb 7, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Wataru Kagawa wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I would like to create a pdb file for a chemical compound (FW ~600) that was 
 created in our chemistry department. ChemDraw 3D appears capable of doing 
 this, but I would like to know if there are free alternatives that work great 
 on Macs. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Wataru
 

Hi Wataru-san:

Three easy steps:

1.  Define a SMILES string for your compound.  The java molecular editor makes 
this easy:  http://www.molinspiration.com/jme/

2.  Paste the smiles string into COOT, or feed it into phenix.elbow

3.  Output the pdb file.

COOT is faster but phenix.elbow allows you to minimize the structure, even 
using third-party QM programs like GAMESS.

I trust all is well.

Bill


Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to ChemDraw 3D? Yes, Chemdoodle!

2010-02-08 Thread mesters

Alternatives to ChemDraw 3D? Yes, ChemDoodle!

I installed XDrawChem on Mac OSX 10.4.11 but it crashes all the time 
which is somewhat annoying.


Then I finally stumbled upon ChemDoodle *which is not for free* but the 
trial version solved my problem at that time.
Having worked with it, I really liked it so much that I finally 
purchased it for 60 US$.


You only pay this amount once, software updates are for free.

Hope this helps.

- Jeroen -

Wataru Kagawa wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to create a pdb file for a chemical compound (FW ~600) that was 
created in our chemistry department. ChemDraw 3D appears capable of doing this, 
but I would like to know if there are free alternatives that work great on 
Macs. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Wataru


~
Wataru Kagawa, Ph. D.
Waseda University
Graduate School of Advanced Science  Engineering
2-2 Wakamatsu-cho, Shinjuku-ku
Tokyo, Japan 162-8480
tel. 03-5369-7369 (ext. 3241)
fax. 03-5367-2820
~
  



--
Dr. Jeroen R. Mesters
Gruppenleiter Strukturelle Neurobiologie und Kristallogenese
Institut für Biochemie, Universität zu Lübeck
Zentrum für Medizinische Struktur- und Zellbiologie
Ratzeburger Allee 160, D-23538 Lübeck
Tel: +49-451-5004065, Fax: +49-451-5004068
Http://www.biochem.uni-luebeck.de
Http://www.iobcr.org
Http://www.selfish-brain.org
Http://www.opticryst.org
--
If you can look into the seeds of time and say
which grain will grow and which will not - speak then to me  (Macbeth)
--


Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to ChemDraw 3D

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Stoermer
This may be somewhat  convoluted but for this exact purpose try ZINC.  
For other drawing things then yes use one of the other packages


http://zinc.docking.org/

Draw the molecule using the widget, save the smiles file and let their  
server make the 3D version for you, properly protonated etc. And you  
get things like logP, and other descriptors as well.


true you get it as .mol2.gz or .sdf.gz but babel is your friend

-Martin


Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to ChemDraw 3D

2010-02-08 Thread Rotem Sertchook
There are several more options to create 3D coordinates from it's  2D  
drawing:


You can build any 3D molecule easily in Discovery Studio Visualizer -  
It is free but not for Mac OS


there is nice server called Frog, that convert 2D to  3D  and can  
build set of conformers  http://bioserv.rpbs.jussieu.fr/cgi-bin/Frog2
Corina is another server that do simple 2D to 3D conversion http:// 
www.molecular-networks.com/online_demos/corina_demo
and  you have the PRODRG server http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/ 
prodrg/  that can convert 2D to 3D and in addition can create  
topology file in many formats (e.g GROMACS, CNS...). PRODRG support  
only common atom types (N, C, O, S, P, Cl, I, Br, F)



Rotem




-
Rotem Sertchook, Ph.D.
Bioinformatics Unit, Biological Services
Weizmann Institute of Science,
Rehovot 76100, Israel.
-



[ccp4bb] Alternatives to ChemDraw 3D?

2010-02-07 Thread Wataru Kagawa
Hi all,

I would like to create a pdb file for a chemical compound (FW ~600) that was 
created in our chemistry department. ChemDraw 3D appears capable of doing this, 
but I would like to know if there are free alternatives that work great on 
Macs. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Wataru


~
Wataru Kagawa, Ph. D.
Waseda University
Graduate School of Advanced Science  Engineering
2-2 Wakamatsu-cho, Shinjuku-ku
Tokyo, Japan 162-8480
tel. 03-5369-7369 (ext. 3241)
fax. 03-5367-2820
~