Re: [ccp4bb] CSX

2012-05-17 Thread Uma Ratu
Dear All;

Thank you very much for your comments and advices.

My protein is homo-tetramer. Based on difference density, only one cysteine
(among the four catalytic cysteins) has observed two positive density along
SG-group. This one could be modeled into OCS, while the rest will be
modeled as non-oxidized.

I very much appreciate for all your inputs

regards

Uma
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Savvas Savvides savvas.savvi...@ugent.bewrote:

  Dear Uma
 Your modeling of a Cysteine sulfenic group (SOH) is reasonable given the
 observed difference density but do keep in mind that sulfenic groups are
 very susceptible to further oxidation to sulfinic and sulfonic acids.
 Stabilization of sulfenic and sulfinic groups in enzyme active sites is
 possible as shown crystallographically by Becker et al Nat Struct Biol
 5:267-271 (1998).
 Also make sure that you flip the Histidine in the active site that faces
 the SOH group to account for a possible hydrogen bond.

 Best regards
 Savvas



 On 04 May 2012, at 20:24, Uma Ratu rosiso2...@gmail.com wrote:

   Dear All:

 Thank you very much for your advices and comments.

 Following your instructions, I am able to change the CYS to CSX.

 Both Get Monomer and Replace Residue work well.

 I have the refined conformation CSX (by real space refinment ) attached
 (named as M-CSX-1).

 The Fo-Fc map is shown with sigma @2.0.

 Is this conformation reasonable? Why there are two bond conformation there?

 Thank you for comments.

 Uma

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Hugo Correia h.corr...@campus.fct.unl.pt
  wrote:

 Dear Uma,

 You can do this using coot. Go to Extensions  Modelling  Replace
 Residue... and enter the three letter code.

 Cheers

 Hugo Correia


 2012/5/4 Uma Ratu rosiso2...@gmail.com

 Dear All:

 My protein has a key cysteine residue involved in catalytic activity.

 The template structure used for the modeling has the same key cysteine.
 In the template structure, this key cysteine residue is assigned as CSX
 based on the observation from its electronic density.

 I compared the electron density from the template as well as my model. I
 can't tell if the cysteine in my model is oxidized or not. The ones from
 the template also looks different from each other, although both assigned
 as CSX.

 I have the snapshots of these cysteines attached. The ones from my model
 named as M-, and the ones from the template named as T-.

 Plus, how to change the residue label from Cys to CSX if the cystein is
 oxidized? In coot, I could not find such function.

 Thank you very much for your advice

 Uma



  M-CSX-1.tif




Re: [ccp4bb] CSX

2012-05-04 Thread Sanishvili, Ruslan
Hi Uma,

I wish you would have shown negative densities on Fo-Fc maps as well.
You protein (and the template one) may end up being a classical case to 
demonstrate how radiation-induced changes may lead to undesirable 
interpretations. Especially because it is a Cys and because it is in the active 
site.
Cheers,
Nukri



Ruslan Sanishvili (Nukri), Ph.D.

GM/CA-CAT
Biosciences Division, ANL
9700 S. Cass Ave.
Argonne, IL 60439

Tel: (630)252-0665
Fax: (630)252-0667
rsanishv...@anl.gov


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Subject: [ccp4bb] CSX

Dear All:

My protein has a key cysteine residue involved in catalytic activity.

The template structure used for the modeling has the same key cysteine. In the 
template structure, this key cysteine residue is assigned as CSX based on the 
observation from its electronic density.

I compared the electron density from the template as well as my model. I can't 
tell if the cysteine in my model is oxidized or not. The ones from the template 
also looks different from each other, although both assigned as CSX.

I have the snapshots of these cysteines attached. The ones from my model named 
as M-, and the ones from the template named as T-.

Plus, how to change the residue label from Cys to CSX if the cystein is 
oxidized? In coot, I could not find such function.

Thank you very much for your advice

Uma


Re: [ccp4bb] CSX

2012-05-04 Thread Roger Rowlett

Uma,

It is possible you have either S-hydroxycysteine (CSO) or S-oxycysteine 
(CSX). The only difference, crystallographically, is that the CSO S-O 
bond is about 1.78A and the CSX S-O bond is about 1.50A. You may not be 
able to differentiate this difference in your electron density maps. A 
SH - HOH contact should be considerably longer than 1.8 A between heavy 
atoms, certainly more like 3.0A+/-.


You can easily substitute either CSO or CSX for CYS in Coot by deleting 
the CYS residue and then using File...Get Monomer and typing in either 
CSO or CSX. (Both CSO and CSX are in the Refmac monomer library.) Rotate 
things into place and do a real-space refinement to get things closer, 
and you should be all set for the next Refmac round of refinement. There 
may be a more elegant way of doing this in Coot, but this will work. If 
you want to crudely see if your refinement with CSO or CSX is 
reasonable, create an omit map by setting the occupancy of the oxygen 
atom to zero. You should see some nicely centered positive difference 
density on the oxygen atom.


I encountered a surprise CSO residue when solving the structure of 3UAO. 
The protein was stored by a collaborator in a non-reducing medium, 
resulting in the oxidation of the active site Cys residue. (The only Cys 
in the protein that oxidized, natch.) The electron density near Cys was 
too close to be a water molecule, but CSO modeled nicely. The 
electron-density-suggested bond distance was about 1.70 A, so CSO looked 
better than CSX, but I bet both would model OK.


Cheers,

___
Roger S. Rowlett
Gordon  Dorothy Kline Professor
Department of Chemistry
Colgate University
13 Oak Drive
Hamilton, NY 13346

tel: (315)-228-7245
ofc: (315)-228-7395
fax: (315)-228-7935
email: rrowl...@colgate.edu

On 5/4/2012 11:00 AM, Uma Ratu wrote:

Dear All:
My protein has a key cysteine residue involved in catalytic activity.
The template structure used for the modeling has the same key 
cysteine. In the template structure, this key cysteine residue is 
assigned as CSX based on the observation from its electronic density.
I compared the electron density from the template as well as my model. 
I can't tell if the cysteine in my model is oxidized or not. The ones 
from the template also looks different from each other, although both 
assigned as CSX.
I have the snapshots of these cysteines attached. The ones from my 
model named as M-, and the ones from the template named as T-.
Plus, how to change the residue label from Cys to CSX if the cystein 
is oxidized? In coot, I could not find such function.

Thank you very much for your advice
Uma


Re: [ccp4bb] CSX

2012-05-04 Thread Savvas Savvides
Dear Uma
Your modeling of a Cysteine sulfenic group (SOH) is reasonable given the 
observed difference density but do keep in mind that sulfenic groups are very 
susceptible to further oxidation to sulfinic and sulfonic acids. 
Stabilization of sulfenic and sulfinic groups in enzyme active sites is 
possible as shown crystallographically by Becker et al Nat Struct Biol 
5:267-271 (1998). 
Also make sure that you flip the Histidine in the active site that faces the 
SOH group to account for a possible hydrogen bond. 

Best regards
Savvas



On 04 May 2012, at 20:24, Uma Ratu rosiso2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All:
  
 Thank you very much for your advices and comments.
  
 Following your instructions, I am able to change the CYS to CSX.
  
 Both Get Monomer and Replace Residue work well.
  
 I have the refined conformation CSX (by real space refinment ) attached 
 (named as M-CSX-1).
  
 The Fo-Fc map is shown with sigma @2.0.
  
 Is this conformation reasonable? Why there are two bond conformation there?
  
 Thank you for comments.
  
 Uma
 
 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Hugo Correia h.corr...@campus.fct.unl.pt 
 wrote:
 Dear Uma,
 
 You can do this using coot. Go to Extensions  Modelling  Replace Residue... 
 and enter the three letter code.
 
 Cheers
 
 Hugo Correia
 
 
 2012/5/4 Uma Ratu rosiso2...@gmail.com
 Dear All:
  
 My protein has a key cysteine residue involved in catalytic activity.
  
 The template structure used for the modeling has the same key cysteine. In 
 the template structure, this key cysteine residue is assigned as CSX based on 
 the observation from its electronic density.
  
 I compared the electron density from the template as well as my model. I 
 can't tell if the cysteine in my model is oxidized or not. The ones from the 
 template also looks different from each other, although both assigned as CSX.
  
 I have the snapshots of these cysteines attached. The ones from my model 
 named as M-, and the ones from the template named as T-.
  
 Plus, how to change the residue label from Cys to CSX if the cystein is 
 oxidized? In coot, I could not find such function.
  
 Thank you very much for your advice
  
 Uma
 
 
 M-CSX-1.tif