Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-03-30 Thread Xiao Lei
Hi All,

I summarized my Coot and Pymol 3D experience here. Monitor is from Asus 24
or 27 inch 3D monitor. Monitor works with Nvidia 3D kit. Refresh rate set
120 HZ. Please first download and install Nvidia 3D kit driver and Asus
monitor driver and install first when working with Windows 7 or 10 (you can
find drivers from official website).  Even after install drivers, 3D is not
automatically working in Windows, you need to follow
http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~lohkamp/coot/wincoot-faq.html#mozTocId906434
and do some settings.

1. Windows 7 with Quadro M4000, Display port (DP) on PC to DP on Monitor,
Works very stable with Coot and Pymol. No 3-D mini DIN cable needed.

2. Window 7 with Quadro 5000, DVI-D dual link on PC to DVI-D dual link on
Monitor. Works very stable with Coot and Pymol. No 3-D mini DIN cable
needed.

3. Fedora 24 with Quadro 5000, DVI-D dual link on PC to DVI-D dual link on
Monitor. Works very stable with Coot and Pymol. 3-D mini DIN cable is
needed in this case. Do not dnf update kernel, as most of the time you have
to re-install Nvidia driver again after kernel updated.

4. Ubuntu Mate with Quadro 5000, DVI-D dual link on PC to DVI-D dual link
on Monitor. Works very stable with Coot and Pymol. 3-D mini DIN cable is
needed in this case. In Ubuntu Mate, the installation of Nvidia driver can
be automatically fetch by the system (install proprietary driver), no need
to type command as in Fedora.

5. Windows 10 with Quadro M4000, Display port (DP) on PC to DP on Monitor,
Works with Pymol 3D but Not Coot in my case. No 3-D mini DIN cable needed.
Not stable even with Pymol 3D, I need to reset every parameter after update
and reset refresh rate to 120hz.. This is the worst option in my case!
Because Win10 keeps giving us problem I switch back to Win7 and everything
works great!




On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Xiao Lei <xiaolei...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Just share my experience, Windows 10 works for pymol 3D under Quadro M4000
> with Nvidia 3D kit (no need to connect the 3 pin MINI DIN, Quadro M4000
> does not have 3 pin Mini DIN connections). I use Asus 24 inch 3D monitor,
> connect the monitor with display port to display port of Quadro M4000, no
> active DP to DVI needed in my case. We have a problem for Coot 3D works
> even when Pymol 3D works ok, we are trying to figure out the problem but
> Windows 10 does work for pymol 3D under DP to DP port.
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Yong Wang <wang_yon...@lilly.com> wrote:
>
>> Xiao,
>>
>>
>>
>> I had a direct connection from display port to display port that had
>> worked for several years (Windows 7).  Since last year I have been losing
>> the stereo.  Often the control panel won’t show the 120 Hz like what you
>> saw.  Sometimes I was able to forcefully add a 120 Hz resolution (using the
>> “Customize …” menu).  But it was not stable, i.e. the stereo would stay for
>> some time then disappear and go back to the state of not having 120 Hz.  I
>> have not had time to investigate further into this but I suspect a driver
>> issue here.  You may want to check the drivers for both the graphics card
>> and the monitor.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yong
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of
>> *Xiao Lei
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:50 PM
>> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card
>> under Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> Taka,
>>
>>
>>
>> I really appreciate this information! I do have Displayport cable and can
>> connect the card and Asus VG248QE both via the DP cable, somehow on the
>> Nvidia control panel in Windows 10, I do not have an option of choosing
>> "120HZ" or "144Hz", I only have option choosing "60Hz" or below, which
>> sounds weird to me. Windows 10 should make things easier not harder. If
>> CentOS 6 works then Windows 10 should work, I guess I have to go back to
>> Windows 7 if needed, but as I already ordered the DP to DVI active cable,
>> I'll test this cable first and update CCP4bb later.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 7:50 PM, <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp> wrote:
>>
>> Xiao,
>>
>>
>>
>> If you connect the board and monitor by DisplayPort cable directly, it
>> should work.
>>
>> I confirmed with Quadro M4000 and BenQ XL2420Z on CentOS 6, though not
>> tested on Windows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Taka
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Xiao Lei [mailto:xiaolei...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:08 AM
>> *Cc:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> *Su

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-03-02 Thread Xiao Lei
Hi All,

Just share my experience, Windows 10 works for pymol 3D under Quadro M4000
with Nvidia 3D kit (no need to connect the 3 pin MINI DIN, Quadro M4000
does not have 3 pin Mini DIN connections). I use Asus 24 inch 3D monitor,
connect the monitor with display port to display port of Quadro M4000, no
active DP to DVI needed in my case. We have a problem for Coot 3D works
even when Pymol 3D works ok, we are trying to figure out the problem but
Windows 10 does work for pymol 3D under DP to DP port.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Yong Wang <wang_yon...@lilly.com> wrote:

> Xiao,
>
>
>
> I had a direct connection from display port to display port that had
> worked for several years (Windows 7).  Since last year I have been losing
> the stereo.  Often the control panel won’t show the 120 Hz like what you
> saw.  Sometimes I was able to forcefully add a 120 Hz resolution (using the
> “Customize …” menu).  But it was not stable, i.e. the stereo would stay for
> some time then disappear and go back to the state of not having 120 Hz.  I
> have not had time to investigate further into this but I suspect a driver
> issue here.  You may want to check the drivers for both the graphics card
> and the monitor.
>
>
>
> Yong
>
>
>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *Xiao
> Lei
> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 11:50 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card
> under Windows 10
>
>
>
> Taka,
>
>
>
> I really appreciate this information! I do have Displayport cable and can
> connect the card and Asus VG248QE both via the DP cable, somehow on the
> Nvidia control panel in Windows 10, I do not have an option of choosing
> "120HZ" or "144Hz", I only have option choosing "60Hz" or below, which
> sounds weird to me. Windows 10 should make things easier not harder. If
> CentOS 6 works then Windows 10 should work, I guess I have to go back to
> Windows 7 if needed, but as I already ordered the DP to DVI active cable,
> I'll test this cable first and update CCP4bb later.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 7:50 PM, <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp> wrote:
>
> Xiao,
>
>
>
> If you connect the board and monitor by DisplayPort cable directly, it
> should work.
>
> I confirmed with Quadro M4000 and BenQ XL2420Z on CentOS 6, though not
> tested on Windows.
>
>
>
> Taka
>
>
>
> *From:* Xiao Lei [mailto:xiaolei...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:08 AM
> *Cc:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card
> under Windows 10
>
>
>
> I changed my mind, I should order the usb- powered DP to DVI dual link...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Christine Gee <chr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Xiao,
>
>
>
> I can confirm you need to buy an active adapter if you want to convert the
> display port on the graphics card to DVI. The one that they supply with the
> graphics card is passive and won't work. I was in the same boat about a
> year ago. I bought a USB powered active adapter which allowed 120htz. My
> monitor only had DVI input so I didn't try a direct display port
> connection. I can't comment on why that didn't work.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Christine
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Takaaki Fukami <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Xiao,
>
>
>
> You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you
> use a passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an
> adapter come with the board, it's probably passive.
>
>
>
> Taka
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *On Behalf Of *Xiao Lei
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro
> M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24
> inch 3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor
> through displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual
> link connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have
> to follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic
> card and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a
> DVI-D dual link socket, it only have displayport.
>
>
>
> I appreciate any suggestions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-31 Thread Yong Wang
Xiao,

I had a direct connection from display port to display port that had worked for 
several years (Windows 7).  Since last year I have been losing the stereo.  
Often the control panel won’t show the 120 Hz like what you saw.  Sometimes I 
was able to forcefully add a 120 Hz resolution (using the “Customize …” menu).  
But it was not stable, i.e. the stereo would stay for some time then disappear 
and go back to the state of not having 120 Hz.  I have not had time to 
investigate further into this but I suspect a driver issue here.  You may want 
to check the drivers for both the graphics card and the monitor.

Yong

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Xiao Lei
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:50 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under 
Windows 10

Taka,

I really appreciate this information! I do have Displayport cable and can 
connect the card and Asus VG248QE both via the DP cable, somehow on the Nvidia 
control panel in Windows 10, I do not have an option of choosing "120HZ" or 
"144Hz", I only have option choosing "60Hz" or below, which sounds weird to me. 
Windows 10 should make things easier not harder. If CentOS 6 works then Windows 
10 should work, I guess I have to go back to Windows 7 if needed, but as I 
already ordered the DP to DVI active cable, I'll test this cable first and 
update CCP4bb later.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 7:50 PM, 
<fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp<mailto:fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp>> wrote:
Xiao,

If you connect the board and monitor by DisplayPort cable directly, it should 
work.
I confirmed with Quadro M4000 and BenQ XL2420Z on CentOS 6, though not tested 
on Windows.

Taka

From: Xiao Lei [mailto:xiaolei...@gmail.com<mailto:xiaolei...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:08 AM
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under 
Windows 10

I changed my mind, I should order the usb- powered DP to DVI dual link...

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Christine Gee 
<chr...@gmail.com<mailto:chr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Xiao,

I can confirm you need to buy an active adapter if you want to convert the 
display port on the graphics card to DVI. The one that they supply with the 
graphics card is passive and won't work. I was in the same boat about a year 
ago. I bought a USB powered active adapter which allowed 120htz. My monitor 
only had DVI input so I didn't try a direct display port connection. I can't 
comment on why that didn't work.

Cheers
Christine


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Takaaki Fukami 
<fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp<mailto:fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp>> wrote:
Dear Xiao,

You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you use a 
passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an adapter 
come with the board, it's probably passive.

Taka


From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Xiao Lei
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 
10

Dear All,

I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro 
M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24 inch 
3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor through 
displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual link 
connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have to 
follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic card 
and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a DVI-D 
dual link socket, it only have displayport.

I appreciate any suggestions.






Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-31 Thread Johannes Cramer
Hi Xiao,

did you try manually changing the Hz in the nvidia system control panel?
It is somewhere under Resolution-> adapt (or something like that, sorry, I
don't have an english version). There you can change the frequency.
If it doesn't work and you only see a black screen, the system switches
back to the previous setting. So what I am saying is: Maybe the system does
not recognize its 144hz ability. For me, that war the case about a year ago.

Cheers,
Johannes

2017-01-31 5:50 GMT+01:00 Xiao Lei <xiaolei...@gmail.com>:

> Taka,
>
> I really appreciate this information! I do have Displayport cable and can
> connect the card and Asus VG248QE both via the DP cable, somehow on the
> Nvidia control panel in Windows 10, I do not have an option of choosing
> "120HZ" or "144Hz", I only have option choosing "60Hz" or below, which
> sounds weird to me. Windows 10 should make things easier not harder. If
> CentOS 6 works then Windows 10 should work, I guess I have to go back to
> Windows 7 if needed, but as I already ordered the DP to DVI active cable,
> I'll test this cable first and update CCP4bb later.
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 7:50 PM, <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp> wrote:
>
>> Xiao,
>>
>>
>>
>> If you connect the board and monitor by DisplayPort cable directly, it
>> should work.
>>
>> I confirmed with Quadro M4000 and BenQ XL2420Z on CentOS 6, though not
>> tested on Windows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Taka
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Xiao Lei [mailto:xiaolei...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:08 AM
>> *Cc:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card
>> under Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> I changed my mind, I should order the usb- powered DP to DVI dual link...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Christine Gee <chr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Xiao,
>>
>>
>>
>> I can confirm you need to buy an active adapter if you want to convert
>> the display port on the graphics card to DVI. The one that they supply with
>> the graphics card is passive and won't work. I was in the same boat about a
>> year ago. I bought a USB powered active adapter which allowed 120htz. My
>> monitor only had DVI input so I didn't try a direct display port
>> connection. I can't comment on why that didn't work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Christine
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Takaaki Fukami <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Xiao,
>>
>>
>>
>> You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you
>> use a passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an
>> adapter come with the board, it's probably passive.
>>
>>
>>
>> Taka
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *On Behalf Of *Xiao Lei
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
>> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card
>> under Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with
>> Quadro M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a
>> Asus 24 inch 3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the
>> monitor through displayport to displayport connection and displayport to
>> DVI-D dual link connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It
>> seems I have to follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for
>> both graphic card and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card
>> does not have a DVI-D dual link socket, it only have displayport.
>>
>>
>>
>> I appreciate any suggestions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-30 Thread Xiao Lei
Taka,

I really appreciate this information! I do have Displayport cable and can
connect the card and Asus VG248QE both via the DP cable, somehow on the
Nvidia control panel in Windows 10, I do not have an option of choosing
"120HZ" or "144Hz", I only have option choosing "60Hz" or below, which
sounds weird to me. Windows 10 should make things easier not harder. If
CentOS 6 works then Windows 10 should work, I guess I have to go back to
Windows 7 if needed, but as I already ordered the DP to DVI active cable,
I'll test this cable first and update CCP4bb later.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 7:50 PM, <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp> wrote:

> Xiao,
>
>
>
> If you connect the board and monitor by DisplayPort cable directly, it
> should work.
>
> I confirmed with Quadro M4000 and BenQ XL2420Z on CentOS 6, though not
> tested on Windows.
>
>
>
> Taka
>
>
>
> *From:* Xiao Lei [mailto:xiaolei...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:08 AM
> *Cc:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card
> under Windows 10
>
>
>
> I changed my mind, I should order the usb- powered DP to DVI dual link...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Christine Gee <chr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Xiao,
>
>
>
> I can confirm you need to buy an active adapter if you want to convert the
> display port on the graphics card to DVI. The one that they supply with the
> graphics card is passive and won't work. I was in the same boat about a
> year ago. I bought a USB powered active adapter which allowed 120htz. My
> monitor only had DVI input so I didn't try a direct display port
> connection. I can't comment on why that didn't work.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Christine
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Takaaki Fukami <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Xiao,
>
>
>
> You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you
> use a passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an
> adapter come with the board, it's probably passive.
>
>
>
> Taka
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *On Behalf Of *Xiao Lei
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro
> M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24
> inch 3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor
> through displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual
> link connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have
> to follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic
> card and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a
> DVI-D dual link socket, it only have displayport.
>
>
>
> I appreciate any suggestions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-30 Thread Takaaki Fukami
Xiao,

If you connect the board and monitor by DisplayPort cable directly, it should 
work.
I confirmed with Quadro M4000 and BenQ XL2420Z on CentOS 6, though not tested 
on Windows.

Taka

From: Xiao Lei [mailto:xiaolei...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:08 AM
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under 
Windows 10

I changed my mind, I should order the usb- powered DP to DVI dual link...

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Christine Gee 
<chr...@gmail.com<mailto:chr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Xiao,

I can confirm you need to buy an active adapter if you want to convert the 
display port on the graphics card to DVI. The one that they supply with the 
graphics card is passive and won't work. I was in the same boat about a year 
ago. I bought a USB powered active adapter which allowed 120htz. My monitor 
only had DVI input so I didn't try a direct display port connection. I can't 
comment on why that didn't work.

Cheers
Christine


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Takaaki Fukami 
<fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp<mailto:fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp>> wrote:
Dear Xiao,

You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you use a 
passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an adapter 
come with the board, it's probably passive.

Taka


From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Xiao Lei
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 
10

Dear All,

I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro 
M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24 inch 
3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor through 
displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual link 
connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have to 
follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic card 
and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a DVI-D 
dual link socket, it only have displayport.

I appreciate any suggestions.





Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-30 Thread Xiao Lei
I changed my mind, I should order the usb- powered DP to DVI dual link...

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Christine Gee <chr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Xiao,
>
> I can confirm you need to buy an active adapter if you want to convert the
> display port on the graphics card to DVI. The one that they supply with the
> graphics card is passive and won't work. I was in the same boat about a
> year ago. I bought a USB powered active adapter which allowed 120htz. My
> monitor only had DVI input so I didn't try a direct display port
> connection. I can't comment on why that didn't work.
>
> Cheers
> Christine
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Takaaki Fukami <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Xiao,
>
>
>
> You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you
> use a passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an
> adapter come with the board, it's probably passive.
>
>
>
> Taka
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *On Behalf Of *Xiao Lei
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro
> M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24
> inch 3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor
> through displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual
> link connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have
> to follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic
> card and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a
> DVI-D dual link socket, it only have displayport.
>
>
>
> I appreciate any suggestions.
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-30 Thread Xiao Lei
OK thanks, I'll update!

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 4:57 PM, <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp> wrote:

> Dear Xiao,
>
>
>
> I think it would work, though I'm not sure because it's smaller and
> cheaper than what I used (https://www.amazon.co.uk/
> Dell-BizLink-DisplayPort-Adapter-Powered/dp/B003XYBA72), which have
> worked well since I bought them 5 years ago, though some of them broke in 2
> or 3 years.
>
>
>
> Please let us know if you succeed with the cheaper one.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:41 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card
> under Windows 10
>
>
>
> Dear Taka,
>
>
>
> Thank you for the information! For the active converter from DP to DVI, is
> it something like  StarTech.com DisplayPort to DVI Active Adapter (
> https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-DP2DVIS-DisplayPort-Active-Adapter/dp/
> B004SUO1GM) ?
>
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-30 Thread Christine Gee
Hi Xiao,

I can confirm you need to buy an active adapter if you want to convert the 
display port on the graphics card to DVI. The one that they supply with the 
graphics card is passive and won't work. I was in the same boat about a year 
ago. I bought a USB powered active adapter which allowed 120htz. My monitor 
only had DVI input so I didn't try a direct display port connection. I can't 
comment on why that didn't work. 

Cheers
Christine


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Takaaki Fukami <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp> 
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Xiao,
>  
> You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you use 
> a passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an adapter 
> come with the board, it's probably passive.
>  
> Taka
>  
>  
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Xiao Lei
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under 
> Windows 10
>  
> Dear All,
>  
> I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro 
> M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24 inch 
> 3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor through 
> displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual link 
> connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have to 
> follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic card 
> and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a DVI-D 
> dual link socket, it only have displayport.
>  
> I appreciate any suggestions.
>  
>  


Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-30 Thread Xiao Lei
Dear Taka,

Thank you for the information! For the active converter from DP to DVI, is
it something like  StarTech.com DisplayPort to DVI Active Adapter (
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-DP2DVIS-DisplayPort-Active-Adapter/dp/B004SUO1GM)
?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM, <fukami...@chugai-pharm.co.jp> wrote:

> Dear Xiao,
>
>
>
> You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you
> use a passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an
> adapter come with the board, it's probably passive.
>
>
>
> Taka
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *Xiao
> Lei
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro
> M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24
> inch 3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor
> through displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual
> link connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have
> to follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic
> card and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a
> DVI-D dual link socket, it only have displayport.
>
>
>
> I appreciate any suggestions.
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-30 Thread Takaaki Fukami
Dear Xiao,

You need an active converter from DP to DVI.  You can't get 120Hz if you use a 
passive converter, even with a DVI dual link cable.  If you used an adapter 
come with the board, it's probably passive.

Taka


From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Xiao Lei
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:10 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 
10

Dear All,

I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro 
M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24 inch 
3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor through 
displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual link 
connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have to 
follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic card 
and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a DVI-D 
dual link socket, it only have displayport.

I appreciate any suggestions.




[ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-30 Thread Xiao Lei
Dear All,

I tried to make Coot and Pymol 3D working for a HP Workstation with Quadro
M4000 graphics card, the card has four displayport. I also has a Asus 24
inch 3D monitor. I tried to connect  the graphics card with the monitor
through displayport to displayport connection and displayport to DVI-D dual
link connection but failed to set the monitor run on 120Hz. It seems I have
to follow the old way of using  DVI-D dual link connection for both graphic
card and monitor, but the problem is that the graphics card does not have a
DVI-D dual link socket, it only have displayport.

I appreciate any suggestions.