Re: [ccp4bb] E. coli mutant strains

2011-02-26 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
Le 26/02/2011 03:51, Dima Klenchin a écrit :
 It surely is not. An N-end rule has to do with ubiquitination, and it is
 absent in E.coli.

Not true. There is indeed and N-end rule in prokaryotes, including E.
coli. Mediated by the ClpP protease-based system. See:

http://www.cell.com/molecular-cell/abstract/S1097-2765%2808%2900692-8

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Re: [ccp4bb] E. coli mutant strains

2011-02-26 Thread Dima Klenchin

 It surely is not. An N-end rule has to do with ubiquitination, and it is
 absent in E.coli.

Not true. There is indeed and N-end rule in prokaryotes, including E.
coli. Mediated by the ClpP protease-based system. See:

http://www.cell.com/molecular-cell/abstract/S1097-2765%2808%2900692-8


Ooops! I dodn't know that. Live and learn. Thanks, Miguel!

Dima


Re: [ccp4bb] E. coli mutant strains

2011-02-26 Thread Daniel Bonsor
If you want a ClpP minus strain you can get it from the Keio strains. 

http://cgsc.biology.yale.edu/index.php
http://www.shigen.nig.ac.jp/ecoli/strain/top/top.jsp

For expression with the T7 promotor, you will need to use the λDE3 
Lysogenization Kit or use a Arabinose induction plasmid instead.


Re: [ccp4bb] E. coli mutant strains

2011-02-26 Thread Christian Schwarz
Dear Jerry,

Whats about an N-terminal His-Tag with an Xa factor cleavage site behind
it...

After IMAC you only get protein with the entire N-Terminus (His-Tag),
afterward digest the protein with Xa factor...it won¹t leave any additional
amino acids C-terminally! You¹ll get your protein! ;)

Cheers,

Christian


Am 2/26/11 2:15 AM schrieb Jerry McCully unter
for-crystallizai...@hotmail.com:

 Dear ALL:
 
Recently I am expressing one protein in BL21(DE3) and the protein
 undergoes N-terminal degradation.
 
I am trying to keep this crucial N-terminal tail on the protein, which
 has MRS at the first 3 positions.
 
   Digging in to the literatures, I found the N-end rule, which tell that
 the proteins bearing N-terminal Arg or lys have much shorter half life.
 
  I am not sure whether this is my problem. However, I want to found one E.
 coli mutant strain that lacks aat and is unable to degrade N-end rule
 substrates that bear N-terminal Arg or Lys.
 
  Does anybody know such strains?
 
 Thanks a lot and have a nice weekend,
 
 Jerry, 




Re: [ccp4bb] E. coli mutant strains

2011-02-26 Thread Daniel Bonsor
Factor Xa will work depending on the exact sequence. If your sequence starts 
MRS... and the start methionine is important and not removed then yes it will 
work when you clone it into a Factor Xa site. If however the start sequence 
starts RS... and the start methionine is actually removed, when you clone the 
gene minus the start Met, Factor Xa will not cleave IEGR/RS. Have you done Mass 
spec on the protein to confirm that the start methionine is removed/present?


Dan



Dear Jerry,

Whats about an N-terminal His-Tag with an Xa factor cleavage site behind it...

After IMAC you only get protein with the entire N-Terminus (His-Tag), afterward 
digest the protein with Xa factor...it won’t leave any additional amino acids 
C-terminally! You’ll get your protein! ;)

Cheers,

Christian


[ccp4bb] E. coli mutant strains

2011-02-25 Thread Jerry McCully

Dear ALL:

   Recently I am expressing one protein in BL21(DE3) and the protein 
undergoes N-terminal degradation.

   I am trying to keep this crucial N-terminal tail on the protein, which 
has MRS at the first 3 positions. 

  Digging in to the literatures, I found the N-end rule, which tell that 
the proteins bearing N-terminal Arg or lys have much shorter half life.

 I am not sure whether this is my problem. However, I want to found one E. 
coli mutant strain that lacks aat and is unable to degrade N-end rule 
substrates that bear N-terminal Arg or Lys.

 Does anybody know such strains?

Thanks a lot and have a nice weekend,

Jerry, 
  

Re: [ccp4bb] E. coli mutant strains

2011-02-25 Thread Dima Klenchin
   Recently I am expressing one protein in BL21(DE3) and the protein 
undergoes N-terminal degradation.


   I am trying to keep this crucial N-terminal tail on the protein, 
which has MRS at the first 3 positions.


  Digging in to the literatures, I found the N-end rule, which tell 
that the proteins bearing N-terminal Arg or lys have much shorter half life.

 I am not sure whether this is my problem.


It surely is not. An N-end rule has to do with ubiquitination, and it is 
absent in E.coli.


However, I want to found one E. coli mutant strain that lacks aat and is 
unable to degrade N-end rule substrates that bear N-terminal Arg or Lys.


Don't think such a strain exists and totally not sure this is really your 
problem. (Also, what's AAT has to do with it? Is this your requirement for 
something else?) Try inhibiting proteases better. E.g., metal-dependent 
proteases are a common problem with IMAC-based purification. First thing is 
to find whether the degradation occurs inside the cells or during 
purification step(s). If the former, why not fuse the thing to an 
N-terminal  tag, thus only purifying non-degraded N-termini? (Assuming a 
monomer, of course). If N-term. has to be native, His-tagged SUMO fusion 
cleaved with SUMO protease will leave no non-native residues (assuming none 
was introduced during cloning, which is rather trivial to ensure these days).


- Dima