[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] tricky mr problem

2013-09-23 Thread Klaus Piontek
I would try phase improvement, especially since you have
two molecules per a.u. In other words averaging, solvent
flattning, histogram matching. The best way is to start at
low(er) resoltuion and extend to the highest resolution
vailable. The best criterium for success is a improved and
interpretable map.
I had quite some success with this appraoch with MR
solutions, but uninterpretable or difficult to build maps.

Good luck,

Klaus

Dr. Klaus Piontek
Albert-Ludwigs University Freiburg
Institute of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry, Room 401 H
Albertstrasse 21
D-79104 Freiburg
Germany
Phone: ++49-761-203-6036
Fax: ++49-761-203-8714
Email: klaus.pion...@ocbc.uni-freiburg.de


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Hi all,

I have been attempting to find a MR solution for a low resolution data set 
(3.9A), with pretty poor merging stats of a 22 strand membrane beta barrel I'm 
working on.

I've created a trimmed poly-alanine from a structure of 17% identity, that 
gives a solution with a Tfz of 14.3 with two molecules per asu (llg is around 
900). I'm guessing this in a genuine solution, but the map is too poor to build 
into.

Does anyone have any advice as to proceed from here? It may be just a case of 
needing better resolution data to work with, but would this indicate that 
Selenomet derivative crystals won't be needed for this structure?

Cheers,

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Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] tricky mr problem

2013-09-23 Thread Roger Rowlett
I've had good luck using the CCP4 DM program PARROT to improve poor 
initial MR maps with twinned data. (Based on some suggestions from this 
bb.) I think it works especially well if you have a lot of NCS symmetry, 
but it's worth a try, and doesn't take long.


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On 9/23/2013 9:01 PM, Klaus Piontek wrote:

I would try phase improvement, especially since you have
two molecules per a.u. In other words averaging, solvent
flattning, histogram matching. The best way is to start at
low(er) resoltuion and extend to the highest resolution
vailable. The best criterium for success is a improved and
interpretable map.
I had quite some success with this appraoch with MR
solutions, but uninterpretable or difficult to build maps.

Good luck,

Klaus

Dr. Klaus Piontek
Albert-Ludwigs University Freiburg
Institute of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry, Room 401 H
Albertstrasse 21
D-79104 Freiburg
Germany
Phone: ++49-761-203-6036
Fax: ++49-761-203-8714
Email: klaus.pion...@ocbc.uni-freiburg.de


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