Re: [ccp4bb] How to tell Refmac it is a fixed double bond?

2012-01-18 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Sam

"double" bond is only used to find bon lengths and other parameters. Refmac 
uses bond length. 
As I see you would like to make a link between two residues. There is a 
tutorial written by Andrey Lebedev that addresses exactly this type of 
problems. Please have a look this site:

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/mxstat/JLigand/index.html

there are three tutorials: 1) simple ligand, 2) links (that is what you want) 
and 3) simple metal containing ligand treatment. 
I hope it helps. If it does not please let us know.


regards
Garib


On 18 Jan 2012, at 21:07, Sam Arnosti wrote:

> Hi every one
> 
> I have made a Cif file for the restraints of my ligand with Jligand, which is 
> attached to my protein via a lysine-aldehyde Schiff base formation.
> The problem is that whenever I run the refmac with the Cif file with torsions 
> and link description, it changes the distance of the Lysine and the Carbon of 
> my ligand.
> 
> The density is there, but it does not recognize it as a C=N bond and puts 
> them up to 2 angstrom away from each other. 
> I do not know, if I should change the link description to make the Refmac 
> regonize the double bond or what else I can do.
> 
> This is the description of link in my Cif file:
> 
> _chem_link_bond.link_id
> _chem_link_bond.atom_1_comp_id
> _chem_link_bond.atom_id_1
> _chem_link_bond.atom_2_comp_id
> _chem_link_bond.atom_id_2
> _chem_link_bond.type
> _chem_link_bond.value_dist
> _chem_link_bond.value_dist_esd
> LYS-MER  1 NZ 2 C18   double  1.2600.020
> 
> I appriciate your help beforehand.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sam

Garib N Murshudov 
Structural Studies Division
MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
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Cambridge 
CB2 0QH UK
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[ccp4bb] How to tell Refmac it is a fixed double bond?

2012-01-18 Thread Sam Arnosti
Hi every one

I have made a Cif file for the restraints of my ligand with Jligand, which is 
attached to my protein via a lysine-aldehyde Schiff base formation.
The problem is that whenever I run the refmac with the Cif file with torsions 
and link description, it changes the distance of the Lysine and the Carbon of 
my ligand.

The density is there, but it does not recognize it as a C=N bond and puts them 
up to 2 angstrom away from each other. 
I do not know, if I should change the link description to make the Refmac 
regonize the double bond or what else I can do.

This is the description of link in my Cif file:

_chem_link_bond.link_id
_chem_link_bond.atom_1_comp_id
_chem_link_bond.atom_id_1
_chem_link_bond.atom_2_comp_id
_chem_link_bond.atom_id_2
_chem_link_bond.type
_chem_link_bond.value_dist
_chem_link_bond.value_dist_esd
 LYS-MER  1 NZ 2 C18   double  1.2600.020

I appriciate your help beforehand.

Regards

Sam