[ccp4bb] Input reflection file for refmac runs

2014-07-01 Thread Dilip Badjugar
Dear CCP4bb users and Refinement experts,


 As input for (n+1)st run of refmac, should I use as input reflection file
the output produced by refmac in the nth run? Currently I have been giving
the master mtz file as input for all runs.


 I would appreciate the clarification from the community.


 Thanking you


 Dilip Badgujar

Graduate Student

ACTREC


Re: [ccp4bb] Input reflection file for refmac runs

2014-07-01 Thread Boaz Shaanan



Hi Dilip,


You've been doing the right thing. Just keep at it.


Cheers,
Boaz




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Dear CCP4bb users and Refinement experts,


As input for (n1)st run of refmac, should I use as input reflection file the output produced by refmac in the nth run? Currently I have been giving the master mtz file as input for all runs.


I would appreciate the clarification from the community.


Thanking you


Dilip Badgujar
Graduate Student
ACTREC












Re: [ccp4bb] Input reflection file for refmac runs

2014-07-01 Thread Mark J van Raaij
Using the master mtz file (as you call it) is the safe thing to do.
If you use the previous refmac output file, you have to careful the right 
structure factor columns are selected. They should be non-modified by the 
previous refmac run, otherwise you are refining both the data and the model.

Mark J van Raaij
Lab 20B
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
c/Darwin 3
E-28049 Madrid, Spain
tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
http://www.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij





On 1 Jul 2014, at 14:35, Dilip Badjugar wrote:

 Dear CCP4bb users and Refinement experts,
 
 As input for (n+1)st run of refmac, should I use as input reflection file the 
 output produced by refmac in the nth run? Currently I have been giving the 
 master mtz file as input for all runs.
 
 I would appreciate the clarification from the community.
 
 Thanking you
 
 Dilip Badgujar
 Graduate Student
 ACTREC
 
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Input reflection file for refmac runs

2014-07-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Keep on using the master file.

Refmac corrects the observations in a few ways
 The overall anisotropic B correction is always applied

In the worst case scenario where you are refining considering twinning the
2FP2 output is no longer the observed FP but one after a detwinning
correction..

 So always stick with the master file..Eleanor


On 1 July 2014 13:40, Mark J van Raaij mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es wrote:

 Using the master mtz file (as you call it) is the safe thing to do.
 If you use the previous refmac output file, you have to careful the right
 structure factor columns are selected. They should be non-modified by the
 previous refmac run, otherwise you are refining both the data and the model.

 Mark J van Raaij
 Lab 20B
 Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
 Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
 c/Darwin 3
 E-28049 Madrid, Spain
 tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
 http://www.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij





 On 1 Jul 2014, at 14:35, Dilip Badjugar wrote:

  Dear CCP4bb users and Refinement experts,
 
  As input for (n+1)st run of refmac, should I use as input reflection
 file the output produced by refmac in the nth run? Currently I have been
 giving the master mtz file as input for all runs.
 
  I would appreciate the clarification from the community.
 
  Thanking you
 
  Dilip Badgujar
  Graduate Student
  ACTREC