Re: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

2023-01-12 Thread Tim Gruene 
Hi Adrian,

this would be a good reason to upgrade your institutions IT department.
When my electronic signature flags my emails as spam (sic!!!), it is
for sure an Outlook client. It is technically rubbish hiding behind
convenience and lazyness ("we have always been going to lunch at
11:30!").

Cheers,
Tim

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 06:11:28 +
"Goldman, Adrian"  wrote:

> I suspect your institutions are also using office365 outlook (also
> known as crapmail) as mail server


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Re: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

2023-01-12 Thread Gary Thompson 
So this was quite real and not spam, here is an update from jisc

---start

https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/20230111-ServiceDisruption.html<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jiscmail.ac.uk%2F20230111-ServiceDisruption.html=05%7C01%7CG.S.Thompson%40kent.ac.uk%7C3552ed2455a848d16dbc08daf41a3ff1%7C51a9fa563f32449aa7213e3f49aa5e9a%7C0%7C0%7C638090690831508972%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=xvTUrgiDn%2FVagK4e8TmgFVseHtB1Y2F3i0NWxdvyjiU%3D=0>

"On Thursday, 05 January 2023, we received notification that one of the email 
servers used by JiscMail was listed on a global spam "blacklist", causing 
recipient mail servers to start rejecting JiscMail posts.
We reported the issue to the operators of that email server, and worked with 
them to ensure that the server was removed from the list. By 09:00hrs on Friday 
(06 January) it was confirmed that the server had been removed from the 
blacklist, and that normal service had resumed.
Unfortunately, later that day, the server was re-added to the blacklist, 
causing recipient servers to start rejecting messages once more.
Due to the way in which the software underpinning the JiscMail service works, 
after several bounced or rejected messages to an individual email address, the 
software assumes that the address no longer exists and removes it from any 
subscribed groups. This had the effect of removing around 50,000 subscriptions 
to just short of 500 JiscMail lists.
We are pleased to inform you that, as of 14:00hrs on Wednesday, 11 January 
2023, we believe the root cause of the issue (the blacklisting) to have been 
resolved, and are in the process of resubscribing all affected users. We expect 
this to be completed by no later than 17:00hrs on Wednesday, 11 January 2023.
Despite these issues having been addressed, subscribers and list owners may 
continue to recieve error messages that have been "queued" by mail servers 
outside of our direct control. These are expected to have fully cleared by 
Friday, 13 January 2023.
---end

Note it contains a link back to the jisc website so you can validate it’s a 
correct message

Regards
Gary


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From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Rafael Marques 

Date: Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 09:36
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Subject: [ccp4bb] RES: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click 
links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content 
is safe.

The same happened to me. I had to subscribe again cause I was not receiving 
ccp4 mails anymore.

Best


Rafael Marques da Silva
PhD Student – Structural Biology
University of Leicester

Mestre em Física Biomolecular
Universidade de São Paulo

Bacharel em Ciências Biológicas
Universidade Federal de São Carlos

phone: +55 16 99766-0021

   "A sorte acompanha uma mente bem treinada"


De: Goldman, Adrian<mailto:adrian.gold...@helsinki.fi>
Enviado:quinta-feira, 12 de janeiro de 2023 06:34
Para: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Assunto: Re: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

Me too. My uni says that a Microsoft set of addresses ended up on a spam 
blacklist, which is why this happened. I suspect your institutions are also 
using office365 outlook (also known as crapmail) as mail server and client

As roberto, I complain all the time to my uni about their mail and it. Probably 
as roberto, it has no effect whatsoever.

Adrian
Sent from my iPhone



On 11 Jan 2023, at 23:13, Becker, Stefan  wrote:
 I also received this kind of message. Is it definitely spam? I waited for 24 
hours and noticed that no messages appeared under CCP4BB. Then I re-registered 
with CCP4BB. From that moment I received messages again.

Best,
Stefan Becker





Am 10.01.2023 um 15:23 schrieb Bernhard Rupp 
mailto:hofkristall...@gmail.com>>:

I got unsubscribed from ccp4em yesterday with a similar message for 
b...@ruppweb.org<mailto:b...@ruppweb.org>. That one has a minor certificate 
problem that however does not affect other email recepients.

For some reason, the ssl certificate for 
https://ruppweb.org/<

[ccp4bb] RES: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

2023-01-12 Thread Rafael Marques 
The same happened to me. I had to subscribe again cause I was not receiving 
ccp4 mails anymore.

Best


Rafael Marques da Silva
PhD Student – Structural Biology
University of Leicester

Mestre em Física Biomolecular
Universidade de São Paulo

Bacharel em Ciências Biológicas
Universidade Federal de São Carlos

phone: +55 16 99766-0021

   "A sorte acompanha uma mente bem treinada"


De: Goldman, Adrian<mailto:adrian.gold...@helsinki.fi>
Enviado:quinta-feira, 12 de janeiro de 2023 06:34
Para: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Assunto: Re: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

Me too. My uni says that a Microsoft set of addresses ended up on a spam 
blacklist, which is why this happened. I suspect your institutions are also 
using office365 outlook (also known as crapmail) as mail server and client

As roberto, I complain all the time to my uni about their mail and it. Probably 
as roberto, it has no effect whatsoever.

Adrian
Sent from my iPhone


On 11 Jan 2023, at 23:13, Becker, Stefan  wrote:
 I also received this kind of message. Is it definitely spam? I waited for 24 
hours and noticed that no messages appeared under CCP4BB. Then I re-registered 
with CCP4BB. From that moment I received messages again.

Best,
Stefan Becker




Am 10.01.2023 um 15:23 schrieb Bernhard Rupp 
mailto:hofkristall...@gmail.com>>:

I got unsubscribed from ccp4em yesterday with a similar message for 
b...@ruppweb.org<mailto:b...@ruppweb.org>. That one has a minor certificate 
problem that however does not affect other email recepients.

For some reason, the ssl certificate for https://ruppweb.org/ is valid, but the 
mailserver still seems to have an issue. May be your IT can check yours

Best br


On Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 02:57 David Briggs 
mailto:david.bri...@crick.ac.uk>> wrote:
I received this odd-looking message from the board address. Did anyone else get 
anything similar?
[cid:b20d59ac-fc29-4cbb-b7f0-65ef44f06b97]
I'm sharing a screenshot because I'm not:
(a) going to click those links
(b) get others to click those links.

Can the board admin confirm if this is legitimate or not?

D

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Re: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

2023-01-11 Thread Goldman, Adrian 
Me too. My uni says that a Microsoft set of addresses ended up on a spam 
blacklist, which is why this happened. I suspect your institutions are also 
using office365 outlook (also known as crapmail) as mail server and client

As roberto, I complain all the time to my uni about their mail and it. Probably 
as roberto, it has no effect whatsoever.

Adrian

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Jan 2023, at 23:13, Becker, Stefan  wrote:

 I also received this kind of message. Is it definitely spam? I waited for 24 
hours and noticed that no messages appeared under CCP4BB. Then I re-registered 
with CCP4BB. From that moment I received messages again.

Best,
Stefan Becker



Am 10.01.2023 um 15:23 schrieb Bernhard Rupp 
mailto:hofkristall...@gmail.com>>:

I got unsubscribed from ccp4em yesterday with a similar message for 
b...@ruppweb.org. That one has a minor certificate 
problem that however does not affect other email recepients.

For some reason, the ssl certificate for https://ruppweb.org/ is valid, but the 
mailserver still seems to have an issue. May be your IT can check yours

Best br


On Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 02:57 David Briggs 
mailto:david.bri...@crick.ac.uk>> wrote:
I received this odd-looking message from the board address. Did anyone else get 
anything similar?
[cid:b20d59ac-fc29-4cbb-b7f0-65ef44f06b97]
I'm sharing a screenshot because I'm not:
(a) going to click those links
(b) get others to click those links.

Can the board admin confirm if this is legitimate or not?

D

--
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Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
The Francis Crick Institute
London, UK
==
about.me/david_briggs

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Re: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

2023-01-11 Thread Roberto Steiner 
I got unsubscribed from both ccp4bb and ccpem. I also thought it was spam but 
then realised that I was not getting any message. Complained a bit with our IT 
people (which is something I tend to do anyway) then subscribed again. Since 
then received a bunch of email starting with


> SUBSCRIBE ccp4bb Roberto Steiner
You are already subscribed to the CCP4BB list as "Roberto Steiner".

> Roberto A Steiner
Unknown command - "ROBERTO". Try HELP.


…

but I am now getting ccp4bb emails.

Best wishes
Roberto


Roberto A Steiner
www.steinerlab.org
https://twitter.com/steiner_lab

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Faculty of Life Sciences and Medicine
King's College London
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Phone 0044 20 78488216
Fax0044 20 78486435

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Università degli Studi di Padova
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Telefono 0039 049 8276409

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On 11 Jan 2023, at 10:15, Becker, Stefan 
mailto:s...@mpinat.mpg.de>> wrote:

You don't often get email from s...@mpinat.mpg.de. 
Learn why this is important
I also received this kind of message. Is it definitely spam? I waited for 24 
hours and noticed that no messages appeared under CCP4BB. Then I re-registered 
with CCP4BB. From that moment I received messages again.

Best,
Stefan Becker



Am 10.01.2023 um 15:23 schrieb Bernhard Rupp 
mailto:hofkristall...@gmail.com>>:

I got unsubscribed from ccp4em yesterday with a similar message for 
b...@ruppweb.org. That one has a minor certificate 
problem that however does not affect other email recepients.

For some reason, the ssl certificate for 
https://ruppweb.org/
 is valid, but the mailserver still seems to have an issue. May be your IT can 
check yours

Best br


On Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 02:57 David Briggs 
mailto:david.bri...@crick.ac.uk>> wrote:
I received this odd-looking message from the board address. Did anyone else get 
anything similar?
[cid:b20d59ac-fc29-4cbb-b7f0-65ef44f06b97]
I'm sharing a screenshot because I'm not:
(a) going to click those links
(b) get others to click those links.

Can the board admin confirm if this is legitimate or not?

D

--
Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB
Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
The Francis Crick Institute
London, UK
==
about.me/david_briggs

The Francis Crick Institute Limited is a registered charity in England and 
Wales no. 1140062 and a company registered in England and Wales no. 06885462, 
with its registered office at 1 Midland Road London NW1 1AT



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Re: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

2023-01-11 Thread Becker, Stefan 
I also received this kind of message. Is it definitely spam? I waited for 24 
hours and noticed that no messages appeared under CCP4BB. Then I re-registered 
with CCP4BB. From that moment I received messages again.

Best,
Stefan Becker



Am 10.01.2023 um 15:23 schrieb Bernhard Rupp 
mailto:hofkristall...@gmail.com>>:

I got unsubscribed from ccp4em yesterday with a similar message for 
b...@ruppweb.org. That one has a minor certificate 
problem that however does not affect other email recepients.

For some reason, the ssl certificate for https://ruppweb.org/ is valid, but the 
mailserver still seems to have an issue. May be your IT can check yours

Best br


On Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 02:57 David Briggs 
mailto:david.bri...@crick.ac.uk>> wrote:
I received this odd-looking message from the board address. Did anyone else get 
anything similar?
[cid:b20d59ac-fc29-4cbb-b7f0-65ef44f06b97]
I'm sharing a screenshot because I'm not:
(a) going to click those links
(b) get others to click those links.

Can the board admin confirm if this is legitimate or not?

D

--
Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB
Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
The Francis Crick Institute
London, UK
==
about.me/david_briggs

The Francis Crick Institute Limited is a registered charity in England and 
Wales no. 1140062 and a company registered in England and Wales no. 06885462, 
with its registered office at 1 Midland Road London NW1 1AT



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Re: [ccp4bb] Is this Spam? This looks like Spam.

2023-01-11 Thread David Waterman 
It looks like there were about 1400 automatic deletions like this across
the CCP4BB. Jisc are aware of the issue, which affects multiple lists (see
https://twitter.com/jiscmailhelp/status/1612756687919742979). We have
requested that these deletions be reverted, but we have not yet heard if
this will be done for us by Jisc or if those subscribers should
re-subscribe themselves. Of course, deleted subscribers will not see this
message...

Cheers

-- David


On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 23:11, Bernhard Rupp 
wrote:

> I got unsubscribed from ccp4em yesterday with a similar message for
> b...@ruppweb.org. That one has a minor certificate problem that however
> does not affect other email recepients.
>
> For some reason, the ssl certificate for https://ruppweb.org/ is valid,
> but the mailserver still seems to have an issue. May be your IT can check
> yours
>
> Best br
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 02:57 David Briggs  wrote:
>
>> I received this odd-looking message from the board address. Did anyone
>> else get anything similar?
>>
>> I'm sharing a screenshot because I'm not:
>> (a) going to click those links
>> (b) get others to click those links.
>>
>> Can the board admin confirm if this is legitimate or not?
>>
>> D
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB*
>>
>> Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
>>
>> Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
>>
>> The Francis Crick Institute
>>
>> London, UK
>>
>> ==
>>
>> about.me/david_briggs
>>
>> The Francis Crick Institute Limited is a registered charity in England
>> and Wales no. 1140062 and a company registered in England and Wales no.
>> 06885462, with its registered office at 1 Midland Road London NW1 1AT
>>
>> --
>>
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