Re: [ccp4bb] MR with MD trajectories

2011-03-30 Thread Poul Nissen
Dear Wandu,

It might be smeared density because it is missing from your phasing model, so 
no reason to reinvent the wheel with MD and Phaser. You see electron density 
features for the domain and you know its basic structure. You can place the 
domain manually - it would take you five minutes and then you can proceed to 
refine the position by rigid body refinement and ordinary refinement/rebuilding

Poul


On 30/03/2011, at 05.43, Vandu Murugan wrote:

 Dear all,
 I have a protein molecule with two flexible domains.  For a 2.8 angstrom 
 data, I could get  MR solution for the larger domain but not for the smaller 
 domain (around 80 aminoacids).  The second domain appears as extra density 
 showing its presence , but does not allow manual model building on it, since 
 it appers to be smeared.  I would like to run a phaser  with some 3 
 structures that I have for this protein from a simulation.  Would it be 
 possible to do this in my computer?  If so, how can I do this?  Any 
 suggestions on this will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
 
 regards,
 Wandu
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] MR with MD trajectories

2011-03-30 Thread martyn . winn
I agree there are probably much better and simpler ways of doing this.

But to answer the question, you could probably use MrBUMP to do this, using the 
local PDB file option. It will require a bit of scripting to deal with all the 
file names, and will take forever.

Other points:
1) you don't need to take every frame of the simulation
2) you probably need to minimise each frame
3) you could do clustering to get fewer diverse structures
4) you could do PCA, and use the lowest modes to distort the structure, a la 
normal mode methods

But Poul's approach is still better ...
Martyn

From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Poul Nissen 
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Sent: 30 March 2011 07:10
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] MR with MD trajectories

Dear Wandu,

It might be smeared density because it is missing from your phasing model, so 
no reason to reinvent the wheel with MD and Phaser. You see electron density 
features for the domain and you know its basic structure. You can place the 
domain manually - it would take you five minutes and then you can proceed to 
refine the position by rigid body refinement and ordinary refinement/rebuilding

Poul


On 30/03/2011, at 05.43, Vandu Murugan wrote:

 Dear all,
 I have a protein molecule with two flexible domains.  For a 2.8 angstrom 
 data, I could get  MR solution for the larger domain but not for the smaller 
 domain (around 80 aminoacids).  The second domain appears as extra density 
 showing its presence , but does not allow manual model building on it, since 
 it appers to be smeared.  I would like to run a phaser  with some 3 
 structures that I have for this protein from a simulation.  Would it be 
 possible to do this in my computer?  If so, how can I do this?  Any 
 suggestions on this will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

 regards,
 Wandu




[ccp4bb] MR with MD trajectories

2011-03-29 Thread Vandu Murugan
Dear all,
I have a protein molecule with two flexible domains.  For a 2.8 angstrom
data, I could get  MR solution for the larger domain but not for the smaller
domain (around 80 aminoacids).  The second domain appears as extra density
showing its presence , but does not allow manual model building on it, since
it appers to be smeared.  I would like to run a phaser  with some 3
structures that I have for this protein from a simulation.  Would it be
possible to do this in my computer?  If so, how can I do this?  Any
suggestions on this will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

regards,
Wandu