[ccp4bb] OFF TOPIC: Cooling system for columns

2015-02-03 Thread Chiara Rapisarda
Hello,

we have an AKTA Avant that we keep at room temperature. We would like to be 
able to use it for preps at 4 degrees, so we would like to keep the FPLC 
columns (type 10/30 from GE) in the cold. We were thinking of buying a 
circulating water bath and connect it somehow to the columns through a jacket. 
Has anybody had any experience with that? We looked also into buying the hot 
pocket from Fisher Scientific but it is a bit out of our budget.
Any suggestions are very welcome.

Chiara



POSTDOC
Structural Biology of 
Bacterial secretion
Department of Structural Biology and Chemistry

INSTITUT PASTEUR

25 rue du Docteur Roux
75015 Paris FRANCE
 
 

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Re: [ccp4bb] OFF TOPIC: Cooling system for columns

2015-02-03 Thread Roger Dodd
Hi Chiara,

We also have an Avant at room temperature. My recommendation would be to
forgo using a water bath. Instead you can achieve a prep near enough to 4C
by doing 2 things: Firstly, keep your columns stored in the cold room or a
fridge to pre-chill them before use. Secondly, make your buffers up with
chilled water and then either put them in an ice bucket or you could get a
bottle jacket (much like a wine bottle cooler) and use that. If you want to
make extra sure of a low temperature, you could keep the ice frozen longer
using some cold packs from the freezer. GE have tested this setup with some
thermocouples and find the temperature drop across the column goes from 6C
at the top to 7C at the bottom even with a 16/600 column, so it should
definitely be fine for a shorter 10/300.

Having said all that, our local Äkta specialist from GE assures us that,
except for pathological cases, room temperature preps are generally OK,
especially if your protein is immobilised on a column - proteins are pretty
stable under those conditions. And, of course, the fraction collector can
be chilled to 6C, so as soon as your samples come off the column they will
be chilled.

--
Roger B. Dodd, PhD
Cambridge Institute for Medical Research
University of Cambridge School of Clinical Medicine
Wellcome Trust/MRC Building
Cambridge Biomedical Campus
Hills Road
Cambridge
CB2 0XY

On Tue Feb 03 2015 at 10:15:26 AM Chiara Rapisarda 
chiara.rapisa...@pasteur.fr wrote:

 Hello,

 we have an AKTA Avant that we keep at room temperature. We would like to
 be able to use it for preps at 4 degrees, so we would like to keep the FPLC
 columns (type 10/30 from GE) in the cold. We were thinking of buying a
 circulating water bath and connect it somehow to the columns through a
 jacket. Has anybody had any experience with that? We looked also into
 buying the hot pocket from Fisher Scientific but it is a bit out of our
 budget.
 Any suggestions are very welcome.

 Chiara



 POSTDOC
 Structural Biology of
 Bacterial secretion
 Department of Structural Biology and Chemistry

 INSTITUT PASTEUR

 25 rue du Docteur Roux
 75015 Paris FRANCE



 *Dr. Chiara Rapisarda*

 *Tel : +33 (0)1.40.61.35.31*
 *Fax :**+33 (0)1.45.68.88.36*

 *Email: chiara.rapisarda*@pasteur.fr