Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with making PDB from Coot

2012-07-24 Thread Remy Loris
Seconday structure assignement by Pymol is poor and unreliable to say 
the least. This behavior is very common. Best is to assign secondary 
structure using other software and then tell Pymol explicitely from 
where to where the starnds and helices run


Remy Loris
Vriej universiteit Brussel


On 23/07/12 23:46, meisam nosrati wrote:

Dear CCP4ers

It seems like the text has not showed up, but I have a problem with 
making pdbs from coot. As I refine my structure ( with MR solution ) 
the beta sheets become loops while H-bondings are still there.


I am not sure, if the problem is originating from making PDBs from coot.

I will appriciate your help

Meisam

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Meisam Nosrati 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with making PDB from Coot

2012-07-24 Thread Joel Tyndall
You should type Dss into pymol and this will assign more appropriate secondary 
structure

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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with making PDB from Coot

Dear CCP4ers

It seems like the text has not showed up, but I have a problem with making pdbs 
from coot. As I refine my structure ( with MR solution ) the beta sheets become 
loops while H-bondings are still there.

I am not sure, if the problem is originating from making PDBs from coot.

I will appriciate your help

Meisam
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Meisam Nosrati 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with making PDB from Coot

2012-07-23 Thread meisam nosrati
Dear CCP4ers

It seems like the text has not showed up, but I have a problem with making
pdbs from coot. As I refine my structure ( with MR solution ) the beta
sheets become loops while H-bondings are still there.

I am not sure, if the problem is originating from making PDBs from coot.

I will appriciate your help

Meisam

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Meisam Nosrati meisam.nosr...@gmail.comwrote:




Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with making PDB from Coot

2012-07-23 Thread Paul Emsley

On 23/07/12 22:46, meisam nosrati wrote:

Dear CCP4ers

It seems like the text has not showed up, but I have a problem with 
making pdbs from coot. As I refine my structure ( with MR solution ) 
the beta sheets become loops while H-bondings are still there.


I am not sure, if the problem is originating from making PDBs from coot.

I will appriciate your help


It is not clear to me what the problem is or if there is a problem with 
Coot at all.


If you read in the model and write it out again are the beta sheets 
still present?


You say refine - do you mean you refine with Coot?

Let's presume that you do.

So my guess is that you move the atoms so that they better fit the 
density and (quite probably) don't have beta sheet restraints.  Thus the 
atoms have moved sufficiently so that DSSP (or whatever algorithm you 
use to detect SS) no longer recognises those residues as beta strands...


OK...

You want secondary structure to be preserved when you refine with Coot?  
Try adding beta strand restraints or initial position restraints or 
user-defined inter-strand restraints or use ProSMART's additional bond 
restraints.


Paul.