Re: [ccp4bb] RNA for crystallization

2013-05-21 Thread A K
Thanks for all suggestions. I am going to P32-label the RNA and see if it
runs as a single species on the gel and if not, I'll do the HPLC.
Alex


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Eugene Valkov eugene.val...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Alex,

 If you do not have access to HPLC equipment, another alternative is
 gel-purification using a PAGE setup under denaturing (urea) conditions.
 This has the advantage of being fairly simple and effective for a range of
 transcripts, but you will need a fairly large gel tank system to get good
 resolution. Ke and Doudna 2004 review in Methods is an excellent starting
 point for learning about practical issues involved in the crystallisation
 of protein/RNA complexes and purification of RNA for this purpose.

 Hope this helps,
 Eugene



 On 20 May 2013 15:20, A K alek6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 I have a crystallization-related question. I am going to co-crystallize
 protein with RNA. I ordered a short (10 mer and 14 mer) RNA from Dharmacon
 but did not choose the purification option while ordering them due to the
 budget issues. How critical is to HPLC purify them before setting drops?
 Aren't RNA synthesis protocols reliable enough nowadays for such short RNAs?
 Thanks,
 Alex




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 MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
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[ccp4bb] RNA for crystallization

2013-05-20 Thread A K
Dear all,
I have a crystallization-related question. I am going to co-crystallize
protein with RNA. I ordered a short (10 mer and 14 mer) RNA from Dharmacon
but did not choose the purification option while ordering them due to the
budget issues. How critical is to HPLC purify them before setting drops?
Aren't RNA synthesis protocols reliable enough nowadays for such short RNAs?
Thanks,
Alex


Re: [ccp4bb] RNA for crystallization

2013-05-20 Thread Salima Nurmohamed
Dear Alex,

In my experience it is essential to HPLC purify short-RNAs for crystallisations 
as the impurities will hinder your crystallisation attempts.

Best wishes,
Salima

Dr. Salima Nurmohamed
Division of Structural Biology,
Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics,
University of Oxford,
Roosevelt Drive
Oxford OX3 7BN, UK

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Kay Kendall Junior Research Fellow

On 20 May 2013, at 15:20, A K alek6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 I have a crystallization-related question. I am going to co-crystallize 
 protein with RNA. I ordered a short (10 mer and 14 mer) RNA from Dharmacon 
 but did not choose the purification option while ordering them due to the 
 budget issues. How critical is to HPLC purify them before setting drops? 
 Aren't RNA synthesis protocols reliable enough nowadays for such short RNAs?
 Thanks,
 Alex



Re: [ccp4bb] RNA for crystallization

2013-05-20 Thread William G. Scott
On May 20, 2013, at 7:20 AM, A K alek6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 I have a crystallization-related question. I am going to co-crystallize 
 protein with RNA. I ordered a short (10 mer and 14 mer) RNA from Dharmacon 
 but did not choose the purification option while ordering them due to the 
 budget issues. How critical is to HPLC purify them before setting drops? 
 Aren't RNA synthesis protocols reliable enough nowadays for such short RNAs?
 Thanks,
 Alex

Dear Alex:

The coupling steps are rather more inefficient than with DNA, so you may have 
some non-negligible N-1, N-2, .. contaminations, as well as potentially 
incompletely deprotected RNAs.  If the RNA is involved in making lattice 
contacts, this might be problematic.  However, crystallization is also a 
purification procedure, so you could always try it first and see if it works.  
In one case in our lab, having a contaminant like this present was absolutely 
essential for obtaining crystals.  Gel purification is cheap and easy, and not 
too much of a burden if you can avoid getting skin cancer from the UV light 
needed for shadowing the RNA. A 20% acrylamide sequencing gel mix would give 
you the nucleotide resolution you might need.

Good luck.

Bill


William G. Scott
Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA
 

Re: [ccp4bb] RNA for crystallization

2013-05-20 Thread Eugene Valkov
Hi Alex,

If you do not have access to HPLC equipment, another alternative is
gel-purification using a PAGE setup under denaturing (urea) conditions.
This has the advantage of being fairly simple and effective for a range of
transcripts, but you will need a fairly large gel tank system to get good
resolution. Ke and Doudna 2004 review in Methods is an excellent starting
point for learning about practical issues involved in the crystallisation
of protein/RNA complexes and purification of RNA for this purpose.

Hope this helps,
Eugene



On 20 May 2013 15:20, A K alek6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 I have a crystallization-related question. I am going to co-crystallize
 protein with RNA. I ordered a short (10 mer and 14 mer) RNA from Dharmacon
 but did not choose the purification option while ordering them due to the
 budget issues. How critical is to HPLC purify them before setting drops?
 Aren't RNA synthesis protocols reliable enough nowadays for such short RNAs?
 Thanks,
 Alex




-- 
Dr Eugene Valkov

Division of Structural Studies
MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
Francis Crick Avenue
Cambridge Biomedical Campus
Cambridge CB2 0QH, U.K.

Email: eval...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
Tel: +44 (0) 1223 407840