[ccp4bb] Thrombin cleavage of membrane protein with fusion tag

2013-02-20 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Hi Folks,

Sorry this isn't a non-ccp4 post.

I am working with a membrane protein for which I am finally able to scale
up expression. I am now also able to partially purify my protein from a
medium-scale (12-18L) bacterial culture using a two-step tandem affinity
purification protocol (Talon followed by amylose affinity steps). As the
next purification step, I am about to set up a pilot thrombin cleavage
experiment to separate my protein from the His.MBP fusion tag (see below).

The construct that I am working with is as follows:
His.MBP--ThrombinSite--Membrane Protein

There is only one theoretical thrombin cleavage site in the entire fusion
protein i.e., at the desired cleavage site with no theoretical secondary
sites. I would like to try cleavage both at 4C and around 25C from 4h to
overnight but I also have to balance the trials with the material I must
generate for the endless permutations and combinations one can try. Each
sensible pilot experiment is going to use up partially purified protein
from 6-12L preps.

FYI. All purification buffers contain DDM and I haven't yet done extensive
detergent screens.

Please could I ask the community to share tips/suggestions about
large-scale thrombin cleavage experiments with their favorite membrane
proteins.

Many thanks.
Raji


-- 
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University


Re: [ccp4bb] Thrombin cleavage of membrane protein with fusion tag

2013-02-20 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Raji,

Thrombin is a rather good protease and behaves well in a large set of
different detergents ( there is a paper by Michael Wiener that describes
the relative efficiencies of several usual proteases, amongst those
thrombin is inlcuded, used routinely for cleavage of membrane protein
fusions in detergents. This is a rather extensive survey henceforth it is
very informative.

The variable detergent sensitivity of proteases that are utilized

for recombinant protein affinity tag removal

James M. Vergis 1, Michael C. Wiener


in

Protein Expression and Purification 78 (2011) 139–142


thrombin tends to be sensitive to reducing agents so I would stay away from
DTT and TCEP , b-mercapto is acceptable in reasonable amounts. We cut in
salt concentrations as high as 500 mM (NaCl) at pH 7.5-8.5 with 5-10%
glycerol around

no chelating agents should be present and imidazole in our hands tends to
be an inhibitors (probably because it has some chelating/complexing
activity).

we have good cleavage in DDM , OG and somehow more difficulties in
foscholines but it still cuts reasonnably well given the cost of the enzyme
and the targets,


the most crucial parameter is Protease/target ratio and incubation time and
temp. you can do trials on small scale digests in PCR tubes at different
temperatures. we usually cut at 4 or room temp.


I hope this helps,


Best regards,


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Pascal F. Egea, PhD
Assistant Professor
UCLA, David Geffen School of Medicine
Department of Biological Chemistry
Boyer Hall room 356
611 Charles E Young Drive East
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Re: [ccp4bb] Thrombin cleavage of membrane protein with fusion tag

2013-02-20 Thread Toufic El Arnaout
Hi Raji,
I addition to the tips from Pascal, I would like to say that for a memb
protein I worked on with a his-tag separated by a thrombin site, I used
thrombin cross linked to agarose from Sigma (1 mL). The beads can be
collected, washed and reequilibrated, making it ready for use so many times.
In my case 1 mL of this thrombin was enough to cleave up to 5-10 mg of
target protein, at 4 °C for 16 h (with slight rotation in a 15 mL tube,
total volume up to 10 mL). In FC-12 there was a little better cleavage than
in DDM.
My opinion is that how thrombin (or most other proteases) will cleave may
mostly depend on your protein/fusion type/protein-micelle complex
structure/access to the site...
You just have to try. Best wishes.
toufic


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Raji Edayathumangalam r...@brandeis.eduwrote:

 Hi Folks,

 Sorry this isn't a non-ccp4 post.

 I am working with a membrane protein for which I am finally able to scale
 up expression. I am now also able to partially purify my protein from a
 medium-scale (12-18L) bacterial culture using a two-step tandem affinity
 purification protocol (Talon followed by amylose affinity steps). As the
 next purification step, I am about to set up a pilot thrombin cleavage
 experiment to separate my protein from the His.MBP fusion tag (see below).

 The construct that I am working with is as follows:
 His.MBP--ThrombinSite--Membrane Protein

 There is only one theoretical thrombin cleavage site in the entire fusion
 protein i.e., at the desired cleavage site with no theoretical secondary
 sites. I would like to try cleavage both at 4C and around 25C from 4h to
 overnight but I also have to balance the trials with the material I must
 generate for the endless permutations and combinations one can try. Each
 sensible pilot experiment is going to use up partially purified protein
 from 6-12L preps.

 FYI. All purification buffers contain DDM and I haven't yet done extensive
 detergent screens.

 Please could I ask the community to share tips/suggestions about
 large-scale thrombin cleavage experiments with their favorite membrane
 proteins.

 Many thanks.
 Raji


 --
 Raji Edayathumangalam
 Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
 Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
 Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University




-- 
**
Toufic El Arnaout
Trinity Biomedical Science Institute (TCD)
152-160 Pearse Street, Dublin 2
Tel.: +353 85 83 40 157
**


Re: [ccp4bb] Thrombin cleavage of membrane protein with fusion tag

2013-02-20 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Dear Pascal and Toufic,

Many thanks to both of you for the pointers. Toufic, I actually poked
around online and bought exactly the same kit that you are suggesting,
especially because the beads are reusable. So your experience is
reassuring. So I'll find out soon.

I also plan to play around with the detergent type and concentration among
other things. I have no plans to take the shortcut but it's nice to have at
least one other human being to talk to on these matters. I appreciate your
responses :)

Many thanks!
Raji




On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Toufic El Arnaout elarn...@tcd.ie wrote:

 Hi Raji,
 I addition to the tips from Pascal, I would like to say that for a memb
 protein I worked on with a his-tag separated by a thrombin site, I used
 thrombin cross linked to agarose from Sigma (1 mL). The beads can be
 collected, washed and reequilibrated, making it ready for use so many times.
 In my case 1 mL of this thrombin was enough to cleave up to 5-10 mg of
 target protein, at 4 °C for 16 h (with slight rotation in a 15 mL tube,
 total volume up to 10 mL). In FC-12 there was a little better cleavage than
 in DDM.
 My opinion is that how thrombin (or most other proteases) will cleave may
 mostly depend on your protein/fusion type/protein-micelle complex
 structure/access to the site...
 You just have to try. Best wishes.
 toufic


 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Raji Edayathumangalam 
 r...@brandeis.eduwrote:

 Hi Folks,

 Sorry this isn't a non-ccp4 post.

 I am working with a membrane protein for which I am finally able to scale
 up expression. I am now also able to partially purify my protein from a
 medium-scale (12-18L) bacterial culture using a two-step tandem affinity
 purification protocol (Talon followed by amylose affinity steps). As the
 next purification step, I am about to set up a pilot thrombin cleavage
 experiment to separate my protein from the His.MBP fusion tag (see below).

 The construct that I am working with is as follows:
 His.MBP--ThrombinSite--Membrane Protein

 There is only one theoretical thrombin cleavage site in the entire fusion
 protein i.e., at the desired cleavage site with no theoretical secondary
 sites. I would like to try cleavage both at 4C and around 25C from 4h to
 overnight but I also have to balance the trials with the material I must
 generate for the endless permutations and combinations one can try. Each
 sensible pilot experiment is going to use up partially purified protein
 from 6-12L preps.

 FYI. All purification buffers contain DDM and I haven't yet done
 extensive detergent screens.

 Please could I ask the community to share tips/suggestions about
 large-scale thrombin cleavage experiments with their favorite membrane
 proteins.

 Many thanks.
 Raji


 --
 Raji Edayathumangalam
 Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
 Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
 Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University




 --
 **
 Toufic El Arnaout
 Trinity Biomedical Science Institute (TCD)
 152-160 Pearse Street, Dublin 2
 Tel.: +353 85 83 40 157
 **




-- 
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University