[ccp4bb] agarose-acrylamide composite gels

2008-08-24 Thread Alexandra Deaconescu
Hello everyone:

Sorry for the off-topic question. I am trying to separate by SDS-PAGE really 
big proteins (500 kDa), and lower percentage (3-8%) acrylamide gels do not do 
the trick. Based on literature searches, acrylamide-agarose composite gels seem 
the way to go. Is anyone willing to share a protocol? I cannot get hold of any 
of the old journals where this was described at our rather limited library...

Thanks a lot!

Cheers,
Alex


Re: [ccp4bb] agarose-acrylamide composite gels

2008-08-24 Thread Dima Klenchin
Sorry for the off-topic question. I am trying to separate by SDS-PAGE 
really big proteins (500 kDa), and lower percentage (3-8%) acrylamide 
gels do not do the trick. Based on literature searches, acrylamide-agarose 
composite gels seem the way to go. Is anyone willing to share a protocol? 
I cannot get hold of any of the old journals where this was described at 
our rather limited library...


There is no need for a protocol. You just make conventional mix but add low 
melting agarose stock instead of water and keep everything at 35-37C before 
adding APS/TEMED. Stacker can be 0% AA/0.5% normal agarose (60C at 
pouring). Unless you must resolve high and low MW on the same gel, I 
wouldn't bother with a gradient, just find AA% that works (3% AA with 
acrylamide:bisacrylamide at 20:1 would be my first guess in your case). Run 
on the cold room  with a tank filled to the top or use circulated water 
cooling.


Dima


Dima


Re: [ccp4bb] agarose-acrylamide composite gels

2008-08-24 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Also, for very large proteins you should not boil the samples - if you must
heat, just go to 50-60C for a few minutes. You also may have better luck
with CTAB-PAGE rather than SDS-PAGE (CTAB tends to smear less, for some
reason).

Artem

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Sorry for the off-topic question. I am trying to separate by SDS-PAGE 
really big proteins (500 kDa), and lower percentage (3-8%) acrylamide 
gels do not do the trick. Based on literature searches, acrylamide-agarose 
composite gels seem the way to go. Is anyone willing to share a protocol? 
I cannot get hold of any of the old journals where this was described at 
our rather limited library...

There is no need for a protocol. You just make conventional mix but add low 
melting agarose stock instead of water and keep everything at 35-37C before 
adding APS/TEMED. Stacker can be 0% AA/0.5% normal agarose (60C at 
pouring). Unless you must resolve high and low MW on the same gel, I 
wouldn't bother with a gradient, just find AA% that works (3% AA with 
acrylamide:bisacrylamide at 20:1 would be my first guess in your case). Run 
on the cold room  with a tank filled to the top or use circulated water 
cooling.

Dima


Dima