Re: [ccp4bb] finding NCS in water

2012-04-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Simplest is to submit your current structure to PDBe - they have software
which moves all waters to lie close to protein. However the waters IDs
don't help you know if A OH 123 matches B OH 123 for example.
The very old utility water tidy tries to give meaningful names to your
waters, but those names are inconsistent with deposition.Maybe you could
run water tidy for information about which waters obey NCS although the
output is not standard nomenclature..
Alternately just use the coot facility to fit chain A over chain B and see
which waters overlap each other in the Copy and original..
(Remember to turn symmetry ON)
 Eleanor

On 22 April 2012 16:33, Rajesh Kumar ccp4...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Dear All,

 I would like to learn how to relate water molecules by NCS and refine
 them.
 When I googled, CCP4 utilities sortwater and watncs showed up.
 I also found Applying NCS to a high resolution structure
 http://www.globalphasing.com/buster/wiki/index.cgi?AutoBusterExample4chawaterNCS,
 including water molecules in NCS restraints on autobuster examples. Some
 how I got error

  Interpreting card: NOTE BUSTER_SIM_DEFINE ncsUV Chain_U V
  Number of atoms in template set=   109
  Number of related chains (other than template) in SIM set=1
  List of chains to be restrained (excluding template)=   V
  *** ERROR a chain specified has less than 3 matching atoms to the template
  *** ERROR   the chain in question is 'V'
  *** ERROR   number of matching atoms is=0
  *** ERROR found in finding matching atoms for NCS set up
 (END)

 Could you please point me to place where I could find  one or two good
 examples or extended information to learn how this works? Also would like
 to know if this helps the refinement in general.

 Thanks
 Rajesh



Re: [ccp4bb] finding NCS in water

2012-04-23 Thread Rajesh Kumar

Thank you Professor. Its very helpful.
Regards,Rajesh

Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:19:09 +0100
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] finding NCS in water
From: eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk
To: ccp4...@hotmail.com
CC: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk

Simplest is to submit your current structure to PDBe - they have software which 
moves all waters to lie close to protein. However the waters IDs don't help you 
know if A OH 123 matches B OH 123 for example.
The very old utility water tidy tries to give meaningful names to your waters, 
but those names are inconsistent with deposition.Maybe you could run water tidy 
for information about which waters obey NCS although the output is not standard 
nomenclature..
Alternately just use the coot facility to fit chain A over chain B and see 
which waters overlap each other in the Copy and original..(Remember to turn 
symmetry ON)
 Eleanor

On 22 April 2012 16:33, Rajesh Kumar ccp4...@hotmail.com wrote:





Dear All,
I would like to learn how to relate water molecules by NCS and refine them. 
When I googled, CCP4 utilities sortwater and watncs showed up. I also found 
Applying NCS to a high resolution structure , including water molecules in NCS 
restraints on autobuster examples. Some how I got error 

 Interpreting card: NOTE BUSTER_SIM_DEFINE ncsUV Chain_U V Number of atoms 
in template set=   109 Number of related chains (other than template) in 
SIM set=1
 List of chains to be restrained (excluding template)=   V*** ERROR a 
chain specified has less than 3 matching atoms to the template *** ERROR   the 
chain in question is 'V' 
 *** ERROR   number of matching atoms is=0 *** ERROR found in 
finding matching atoms for NCS set up(END) 
Could you please point me to place where I could find  one or two good examples 
or extended information to learn how this works? Also would like to know if 
this helps the refinement in general.

ThanksRajesh  

  

[ccp4bb] finding NCS in water

2012-04-22 Thread Rajesh Kumar

Dear All,
I would like to learn how to relate water molecules by NCS and refine them. 
When I googled, CCP4 utilities sortwater and watncs showed up. I also found 
Applying NCS to a high resolution structure , including water molecules in NCS 
restraints on autobuster examples. Some how I got error 
 Interpreting card: NOTE BUSTER_SIM_DEFINE ncsUV Chain_U V Number of atoms 
in template set=   109 Number of related chains (other than template) in 
SIM set=1 List of chains to be restrained (excluding template)=   V
*** ERROR a chain specified has less than 3 matching atoms to the template *** 
ERROR   the chain in question is 'V'  *** ERROR   number of matching atoms is=  
  0 *** ERROR found in finding matching atoms for NCS set up(END) 
Could you please point me to place where I could find  one or two good examples 
or extended information to learn how this works? Also would like to know if 
this helps the refinement in general.
ThanksRajesh