Re: [ccp4bb] nearestcell

2023-12-27 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear all,

a short summary:

- SAUC and the Phenix tool worked well.
- SIMBAD was also pointed out to me, but it stops with an error message both in 
my local CCP4 installation and in "CCP4 online".
- The https://app.strubi.ox.ac.uk/nearest-cell/nearest-cell.cgi alternative to 
http://www.strubi.ox.ac.uk/nearest-cell/nearest-cell.cgi does not respond
- "othercell" is also useful but for other purposes, and it is in CCP4

thanks to all who responded so quickly!

Kay

On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 18:38:15 +, Kay Diederichs 
 wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>I seem to remember a tool called "nearestcell", a command-line equivalent of 
>the Oxford Nearest-Cell web server which appears to be offline.
>However I cannot locate that tool in CCP4 nor elsewhere. Can anyone point me 
>to it or give alternatives, please? (I did try the PDB's advanced search but 
>it is not made for this purpose)
>
>Thanks, and a happy and successful 2024 to everybody!
>
>Kay
>
>
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Re: [ccp4bb] nearestcell

2023-12-27 Thread Herbert J. Bernstein
That is a live link to sauc, but I have not updated the database from the
PDB in a while.  Let me know if there is an
urgent need for an update,  Otherwise I am planning one for March.  I
normally build the database from COD and
the PDB, but if CCDC wishes, we can add the CSD to the mix.   For the
longer term, would anybody be
willing to provide an institutional home?

Regards,
Herbert

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 1:47 PM Mike S  wrote:

> Hi Kay,
>
> http://flops.arcib.org:8084/sauc-1.1.1/
>
> similar to the nearest-cell server, which seems to change its link and is
> harder to find (or stale link)
> https://app.strubi.ox.ac.uk/nearest-cell/nearest-cell.cgi
>
> HTH,
> Mike
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 1:39 PM Kay Diederichs <
> kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I seem to remember a tool called "nearestcell", a command-line equivalent
>> of the Oxford Nearest-Cell web server which appears to be offline.
>> However I cannot locate that tool in CCP4 nor elsewhere. Can anyone point
>> me to it or give alternatives, please? (I did try the PDB's advanced search
>> but it is not made for this purpose)
>>
>> Thanks, and a happy and successful 2024 to everybody!
>>
>> Kay
>>
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Re: [ccp4bb] nearestcell

2023-12-27 Thread Mike S
Hi Kay,

http://flops.arcib.org:8084/sauc-1.1.1/

similar to the nearest-cell server, which seems to change its link and is
harder to find (or stale link)
https://app.strubi.ox.ac.uk/nearest-cell/nearest-cell.cgi

HTH,
Mike

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 1:39 PM Kay Diederichs <
kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I seem to remember a tool called "nearestcell", a command-line equivalent
> of the Oxford Nearest-Cell web server which appears to be offline.
> However I cannot locate that tool in CCP4 nor elsewhere. Can anyone point
> me to it or give alternatives, please? (I did try the PDB's advanced search
> but it is not made for this purpose)
>
> Thanks, and a happy and successful 2024 to everybody!
>
> Kay
>
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Re: [ccp4bb] nearestcell

2023-12-27 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Kay,
to address "(...) not elsewhere (...)", in Phenix GUI go to Tools then down
to "Search PDB symmetry...". I've never used it myself nor do I know who
added it in Phenix but from the description it looks like what you're
looking for. Let us know if you have any problems with it.
All the best,
Pavel


On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:39 AM Kay Diederichs <
kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I seem to remember a tool called "nearestcell", a command-line equivalent
> of the Oxford Nearest-Cell web server which appears to be offline.
> However I cannot locate that tool in CCP4 nor elsewhere. Can anyone point
> me to it or give alternatives, please? (I did try the PDB's advanced search
> but it is not made for this purpose)
>
> Thanks, and a happy and successful 2024 to everybody!
>
> Kay
>
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Re: [ccp4bb] nearestcell

2023-12-27 Thread James Holton

Are you thinking of "othercell" ?

On 12/27/2023 10:38 AM, Kay Diederichs wrote:

Dear all,

I seem to remember a tool called "nearestcell", a command-line equivalent of 
the Oxford Nearest-Cell web server which appears to be offline.
However I cannot locate that tool in CCP4 nor elsewhere. Can anyone point me to 
it or give alternatives, please? (I did try the PDB's advanced search but it is 
not made for this purpose)

Thanks, and a happy and successful 2024 to everybody!

Kay



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[ccp4bb] nearestcell

2023-12-27 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear all,

I seem to remember a tool called "nearestcell", a command-line equivalent of 
the Oxford Nearest-Cell web server which appears to be offline.
However I cannot locate that tool in CCP4 nor elsewhere. Can anyone point me to 
it or give alternatives, please? (I did try the PDB's advanced search but it is 
not made for this purpose)

Thanks, and a happy and successful 2024 to everybody!

Kay



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