Re: [ccp4bb] pairwise CCano - SUMMARY

2014-03-24 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear all,

I received three responses to my Email, those two you saw on the BB
and one from Clemens Vonrhein who pointed me at the program
'check_indexing' from the AutoBuster Suite.

I tried both pointless and check_indexing, and both work equally fine.
I did not try Pierre Legrand's solution because I already had two, but
I am convinced it works equally well.

Pointless has the advantage of doing all combinations automatically,
check_indexing has the advantage of the more concise output. Since
check_indexing only relates all input file to the first one, I applied
the following bash-script to get all pairwise combinations, which
repeatedly pops the first mtz-file from the stack until there are only
two left:

#-- 8 snip --
mtzs=(1.mtz \
2.mtz \
3.mtz
)
while (( ${#mtzs[*]}  1 )); do
check_indexing -v ${mtzs[*]}
mtzs=(${mtzs[@]:1})
done
#-snap 8 -

The list of mtz-files can surely be expanded (I used the script with
14 entries).

In my particular case pointless had another important advantage which
gave me a great crystallographic lesson:
The beta-angles of all these mtz-files (spacegroup C2) vary by less
than 0.1 degree about 90degrees. While check_indexing takes all the
crystallographic reindexing possibilities into account, pointless also
realised that in this particular case, the crystallographic convention
of beta90 degrees would render some of the data sets incompatible
with others and therefore reindexed them to beta90degrees. I was
reminded the molecules don't attend lectures in crystallography and
may therefore not obey conventions. In case of a single data set this
is surely no problem, but in this case it was.

Of course XDS would have picked the correct indexing  with beta89
degrees if only I had provided the same REFERENCE_DATA_SET to all data
sets, but I did not here, and I had to see the reindexing operator in
the form [-h -k l] from pointless in order to realise what was going on.

Thanks a lot for all three suggestions
Tim




On 03/14/2014 11:14 AM, Phil Evans wrote:
 If you assigns them to different datasets in Pointless, then
 Aimless will give you the cross-dataset correlations. By default it
 will scale them to together first, but you can skip that if you
 want
 
 It might not scale well to a large number of files (OK up to about
 10 I guess)
 
 Phil
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 09:33, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de
 wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I am looking for a tool that prints (and preferably plots, e.g. as 
 postscript) the pairwise anomalous CC vs. resolution for several
 input HKL-files. xprep does this, but it is interactive and
 requires a fair bit of typing. Since I have a large number of
 HKL-files from XDS, I would like to script that and then flip
 through the pages of the postscript-plots.
 
 I looked into pointless but could not find even a table.
 
 Since there recently were some publications one the use of many
 files for phasing, I though such a tool should exist!?
 
 Best, Tim
 
 

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[ccp4bb] pairwise CCano

2014-03-14 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear all,

I am looking for a tool that prints (and preferably plots, e.g. as
postscript) the pairwise anomalous CC vs. resolution for several input
HKL-files.
xprep does this, but it is interactive and requires a fair bit of
typing. Since I have a large number of HKL-files from XDS, I would like
to script that and then flip through the pages of the postscript-plots.

I looked into pointless but could not find even a table.

Since there recently were some publications one the use of many files
for phasing, I though such a tool should exist!?

Best,
Tim

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D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] pairwise CCano

2014-03-14 Thread LEGRAND Pierre
Hello Tim :-)

You can try to do this with sftools. It is also an interactive type of program 
input but you can easily calculate correlations. After converting xds files to 
mtz, you can try some thing like this : 

sftools  eof  sftools_1.log
READ $mtz1
READ $mtz2
SELECT RESOL  2.8
CORREL COL  5 10 SHELLS 10
eof

For the ploting, I'll use gnuplot after parsing the sftools_1.log file.
Good luck with this,
Cheers,
Pierre


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Dear all,

I am looking for a tool that prints (and preferably plots, e.g. as
postscript) the pairwise anomalous CC vs. resolution for several input
HKL-files.
xprep does this, but it is interactive and requires a fair bit of
typing. Since I have a large number of HKL-files from XDS, I would like
to script that and then flip through the pages of the postscript-plots.

I looked into pointless but could not find even a table.

Since there recently were some publications one the use of many files
for phasing, I though such a tool should exist!?

Best,
Tim

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] pairwise CCano

2014-03-14 Thread Phil Evans
If you assigns them to different datasets in Pointless, then Aimless will give 
you the cross-dataset correlations. By default it will scale them to together 
first, but you can skip that if you want

It might not scale well to a large number of files (OK up to about 10 I guess)

Phil

On 14 Mar 2014, at 09:33, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:

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 Dear all,
 
 I am looking for a tool that prints (and preferably plots, e.g. as
 postscript) the pairwise anomalous CC vs. resolution for several input
 HKL-files.
 xprep does this, but it is interactive and requires a fair bit of
 typing. Since I have a large number of HKL-files from XDS, I would like
 to script that and then flip through the pages of the postscript-plots.
 
 I looked into pointless but could not find even a table.
 
 Since there recently were some publications one the use of many files
 for phasing, I though such a tool should exist!?
 
 Best,
 Tim
 
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 Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
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