Re: [ccp4bb] refining low resolution structures

2008-04-17 Thread Bjørn Pañella Pedersen

Hi Mario

Maintaining the secondary structure of your protein when refining against weak 
data can be really challenging.
There are some options, but in the end you might have to accept a fairly large 
number of Ramachandran plot outliers.


Try phenix.refine with the keyword discard_psi_phi=False. Then the psi and phi 
dihedral angles should be restrained according to the CCP4 monomer library 
definitions. There was a discussion of in in the phenixbb in juli 2007. 
(http://www.phenix-online.org/pipermail/phenixbb/2007-July/000357.html)


If you are really desperate, another option could be to use harmonic restraints 
in CNS to keep your backbone fairly fixed in parts of the map where you believe 
the secondary structure is correct (most likely alpha-helices). You could also 
fix main chain elements completely (in any refinement program), but it is 
definitely preferable to leave some room for change in the xyz-positions, and 
harmonic restrains are a nice way of doing exactly that.


Also see the discussion in the ccp4bb from december 2006. 
(http://www.dl.ac.uk/list-archive-public/ccp4bb/msg19554.html)


Remember that phi-psi angels are excellent for validation purposes, but only 
when they are unrestrained, so if you restrain them you lose this option.


Hope this helps.
-Bjørn
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Mario Milani wrote:

Hi,
it could be really useful in refining low resolution structure (with 
poor electron density map) to have a refinement program that can 
restrain phi and psi angles to follow Ramachandran plot. Does anyone 
know if such program exist?

Thank you,

mario

Mario Milani, PhD
University of Milan
Dep. of Biomol. Science and Biotech.
Via Celoria 26, 20133 Milan, Italy
T. +39 0250314892-4
F. +39 0250314895
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Re: [ccp4bb] refining low resolution structures

2008-04-17 Thread Anastassis Perrakis


Remember that phi-psi angels are excellent for validation purposes,  
but only when they are unrestrained, so if you restrain them you  
lose this option.


The above is a very important point!

Having now said that, restraining alpha-helices hydrogen bonding, and  
beta-sheet cross-strand hydrogen bonds, can be done in REFMAC, Phenix  
and CNS (its documented for all of them). This seems to be easier to  
do and helpful, but has to be done with care - like everything in low  
resolution refinement.


A.




Hope this helps.
-Bjørn
--
Bjørn Pañella Pedersen
Ph.D Student, MSc

Department of Molecular Biology   Office:  +45 89425021
University of Aarhus  Lab: +45 89425010
Gustav Wieds Vej 10c  Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DK-8000 Aarhus C  Lab WWW: http://www.bioxray.dk
Denmark

Mario Milani wrote:

Hi,
it could be really useful in refining low resolution structure  
(with poor electron density map) to have a refinement program that  
can restrain phi and psi angles to follow Ramachandran plot. Does  
anyone know if such program exist?

Thank you,
mario
Mario Milani, PhD
University of Milan
Dep. of Biomol. Science and Biotech.
Via Celoria 26, 20133 Milan, Italy
T. +39 0250314892-4
F. +39 0250314895
http://digilander.libero.it/mario.milani/
http://users.unimi.it/biolstru/Home.html