Re: [ccp4bb] crystallization of complex and ...

2011-09-16 Thread Enrico Stura

Dear Min,

Regarding the stoichiometry that you should use in crystallizing two  
proteins

that form a complex. I have looked at this question before. See:
Stura, E.A., Graille, M., Taussig, M.J., Sutton, B.J. Gore, M.G.,  
Silverman, G.J., Charbonnier, J.-B. (2001)
Crystallization of macromolecular complexes: Stoichiometric variation  
screening. J. Cryst. Growth 232:580-590.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022024801011721

Briefly: The stoichiometry can, and should, be varied in your screening.

The relative protein solubility of the two individual proteins and the  
solubility of the complex should be
analysed under various potential crystallization conditions. Conditions  
where the complex is less soluble
than the individual ptoteins should be chosen if the complex has a  
tendency to dissociate.


Since both  proteins have been crystallized before you may also use
crystals of both the free forms of the two proteins to stimulate  
nucleation of the complex

The final  composition of the asymmetric unit may include free poteins as
well as the complex.

The paper will give you a lot more methodology to use to obtain crystals  
of the complex, if

such complex really exists, is homegeneous and relatively stable.

Enrico.


On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:20:26 +0200, m zhang mzhang...@hotmail.com wrote:



Dear all,
I have two questions:
First, I was trying to crystallize a complex of two proteins. Both  
proteins has been crystallized before. The two proteins bind to each  
other based on Biacore study, but they didn't form a single peak on gel  
filtration. When I mixed them at 1:1 ratio, the crystals I got contain  
only one of the two proteins. I was suggested to increase the ratio, for  
example 1.5:1, to increase the probability of co-crystallization which I  
will try. But I do want to hear if there are other possible ways to try.  
What would you try if you were in my situation?
Second is about reusing of Ni-NTA resin. According to Qiagen's  
instruction, after using fresh Ni-NTA resin, one only needs to wash the  
used Ni resin first with 0.5M NaOH, then with your own buffer. After  
that the resin is ready to be reused until it needs being recharged. But  
my question is: Once immidazole competes with His-tagged protein and  
binds to Ni-resin, how can immidazole be rinsed off with the same  
buffer(usually pH is above 7) one uses to purify the protein?

Thank you for any suggestion or comment.
Min




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Re: [ccp4bb] crystallization of complex and ...

2011-09-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 22:20 -0400, m zhang wrote:
 Second is about reusing of Ni-NTA resin. According to Qiagen's
 instruction, after using fresh Ni-NTA resin, one only needs to wash
 the used Ni resin first with 0.5M NaOH, then with your own buffer.
 After that the resin is ready to be reused until it needs being
 recharged. But my question is: Once immidazole competes with
 His-tagged protein and binds to Ni-resin, how can immidazole be rinsed
 off with the same buffer(usually pH is above 7) one uses to purify the
 protein? 

Imidazole binds much weaker than a his-tag, and thus more of it goes
into the buffer when you wash the column.  In theory, if you wash a
column with protein bound long enough, it will all slowly come off.

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Re: [ccp4bb] crystallization of complex and ...

2011-09-16 Thread Artem Evdokimov
1 imidazole affinity is not high which is why you use 200 mM or more to
elute. So it comes off by itself.
2 you can wash with low ph and then recharge this is somewhat easier on the
resin
On Sep 15, 2011 9:25 PM, m zhang mzhang...@hotmail.com wrote:





 Dear all,
 I have two questions:
 First, I was trying to crystallize a complex of two proteins. Both
proteins has been crystallized before. The two proteins bind to each other
based on Biacore study, but they didn't form a single peak on gel
filtration. When I mixed them at 1:1 ratio, the crystals I got contain only
one of the two proteins. I was suggested to increase the ratio, for example
1.5:1, to increase the probability of co-crystallization which I will try.
But I do want to hear if there are other possible ways to try. What would
you try if you were in my situation?
 Second is about reusing of Ni-NTA resin. According to Qiagen's
instruction, after using fresh Ni-NTA resin, one only needs to wash the used
Ni resin first with 0.5M NaOH, then with your own buffer. After that the
resin is ready to be reused until it needs being recharged. But my question
is: Once immidazole competes with His-tagged protein and binds to Ni-resin,
how can immidazole be rinsed off with the same buffer(usually pH is above 7)
one uses to purify the protein?
 Thank you for any suggestion or comment.
 Min