[ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Theresa H. Hsu
Hi all

I have a His-tagged soluble protein (8 His residues added to 90 kDa protein) 
that do not bind to IMAC column based on flowthrough showing up with Western 
blott. Do you have suggestions to improve the binding?

Binding condition is 50 mM Tris-HCl 8.0, 300 mM NaCl, 10 mM imidazole pH to 8.0.

Thank you.

Theresa


Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Edward A. Berry

Maybe the His Tag is blocked by the folded protein.

Try using 6M Guanidine-HCL and see if it sticks.
Then you will need to find some way of refolding your protein,
if you want to crystallize it.

Theresa H. Hsu wrote:

Hi all

I have a His-tagged soluble protein (8 His residues added to 90 kDa protein) 
that do not bind to IMAC column based on flowthrough showing up with Western 
blott. Do you have suggestions to improve the binding?

Binding condition is 50 mM Tris-HCl 8.0, 300 mM NaCl, 10 mM imidazole pH to 8.0.

Thank you.

Theresa



Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Your protein is either misfolded/aggregated or the his tag is chewed
off/never translated. You could try detergents etc. To improve the state of
the protein but I would also doubl check sequence for early termination
(assuming cterm) or protelysis.
Artem
On Jan 15, 2012 12:23 PM, Theresa H. Hsu theresah...@live.com wrote:

 Hi all

 I have a His-tagged soluble protein (8 His residues added to 90 kDa
 protein) that do not bind to IMAC column based on flowthrough showing up
 with Western blott. Do you have suggestions to improve the binding?

 Binding condition is 50 mM Tris-HCl 8.0, 300 mM NaCl, 10 mM imidazole pH
 to 8.0.

 Thank you.

 Theresa



Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Cécile Breyton
I addition to the suggestions of checking 
folding/aggregation/proteolysis, you might also want to try lowering the 
NaCl concentration. Whereas I like having some to prevent ion exchange 
effects on the IMAC column, I have had the case of a protein that does 
not bind if NaCl is present. Binds perfectly well without, is eluted 
fine with 200 mM Imidazol. This protein does not bind at low Imidazol 
concentration either by the way.


hth,

Cécile

Le 15/01/12 19:23, Theresa H. Hsu a écrit :

Hi all

I have a His-tagged soluble protein (8 His residues added to 90 kDa protein) 
that do not bind to IMAC column based on flowthrough showing up with Western 
blott. Do you have suggestions to improve the binding?

Binding condition is 50 mM Tris-HCl 8.0, 300 mM NaCl, 10 mM imidazole pH to 8.0.

Thank you.

Theresa



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Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Artem Evdokimov
This likely means that your imac column is acting as an ion exchanger :-)
On Jan 15, 2012 2:50 PM, Cécile Breyton cecile.brey...@ibs.fr wrote:

 I addition to the suggestions of checking folding/aggregation/**proteolysis,
 you might also want to try lowering the NaCl concentration. Whereas I like
 having some to prevent ion exchange effects on the IMAC column, I have had
 the case of a protein that does not bind if NaCl is present. Binds
 perfectly well without, is eluted fine with 200 mM Imidazol. This protein
 does not bind at low Imidazol concentration either by the way.

 hth,

 Cécile

 Le 15/01/12 19:23, Theresa H. Hsu a écrit :

 Hi all

 I have a His-tagged soluble protein (8 His residues added to 90 kDa
 protein) that do not bind to IMAC column based on flowthrough showing up
 with Western blott. Do you have suggestions to improve the binding?

 Binding condition is 50 mM Tris-HCl 8.0, 300 mM NaCl, 10 mM imidazole pH
 to 8.0.

 Thank you.

 Theresa


 --
 Cécile Breyton
 Institut de Biologie Structurale
 UMR 5075 CNRS/CEA/UJF
 41, rue Jules Horowitz
 38027 Grenoble cedex 1 France
 ---
 Tel: +33 (0)4 38 78 30 37
 Fax: +33 (0)4 38 78 54 94
 Courriel : cecile.brey...@ibs.fr
 http://www.ibs.fr/groups/**membrane-and-pathogens-group/**
 ssimpa/article/ssimpas-1109http://www.ibs.fr/groups/membrane-and-pathogens-group/ssimpa/article/ssimpas-1109



Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Xiaodi Yu

Hi Theresa:
If you can make sure that your target protein is expressed. You can first use 6 
M urea to denature the protein and then try to bind it to the column. If the 
denatured protein can bind to the column, it seems the histag is hided inside 
of the protein. It is not exposed enough to interact with the column. In this 
case, you can design a new construct, for example, put the tag to the other end 
of the sequence, or introduce a flexible linker between the tag and the 
protein. Another thing you can try is using Cu ion instead of Ni ion. It will 
fasten the binding.
Good luck
Yu Xiaodi

 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:23:33 +
 From: theresah...@live.com
 Subject: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 
 Hi all
 
 I have a His-tagged soluble protein (8 His residues added to 90 kDa protein) 
 that do not bind to IMAC column based on flowthrough showing up with Western 
 blott. Do you have suggestions to improve the binding?
 
 Binding condition is 50 mM Tris-HCl 8.0, 300 mM NaCl, 10 mM imidazole pH to 
 8.0.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Theresa
  

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Jodie Johnston
Hi Theresa,

I am right in thinking the protein construct you are using is just 8 His 
residues added to 90kDa ?
It could be (if this is the case) that the tag is not accessible for binding
to the Ni column. Sometimes you need a linker sequence between the protein for 
the
His-tag to coordinate well to the Ni2+.

Hope that helps


Cheers


Jodie



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Subject: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

Hi all

I have a His-tagged soluble protein (8 His residues added to 90 kDa protein) 
that do not bind to IMAC column based on flowthrough showing up with Western 
blott. Do you have suggestions to improve the binding?

Binding condition is 50 mM Tris-HCl 8.0, 300 mM NaCl, 10 mM imidazole pH to 8.0.

Thank you.

Theresa

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Theresa H. Hsu
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:12:46 +, Xiaodi Yu uppsala@hotmail.com wrote:

Another thing you can try is using Cu ion instead of Ni ion. It will fasten 
the binding.

Can I know what is difference in binding chemistry of Ni, Cu, Co and Fe? Is 
there specific rule for binding affinity versus purity?

Good luck
Yu Xiaodi


 

Theresa


Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Typically affinity goes down in order cu ni co zn mg

Artem
On Jan 15, 2012 7:35 PM, Theresa H. Hsu theresah...@live.com wrote:

 On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:12:46 +, Xiaodi Yu uppsala@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Another thing you can try is using Cu ion instead of Ni ion. It will
 fasten the binding.

 Can I know what is difference in binding chemistry of Ni, Cu, Co and Fe?
 Is there specific rule for binding affinity versus purity?

 Good luck
 Yu Xiaodi
 

 

 Theresa