RE: Omen site and FTP server

[Ali]

> The crux of the matter seems to be that information which should not be
> made public is intermingled on the same system, so they are proceeding
> carefully and with trusted parties which is very understandable.

Jay,

Thanks for stepping up and helping with this. When I saw the widow was
selling the domain name I was hopeful that she would be tech savvy and had
been involved in the business but apparently she is not. Hopefully, we will
able to retrieve the data from the HW. 

-Ali
 

Re: IBM System/32 available

[Jay Jaeger]

On 11/6/2015 8:01 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 17:10, Jay Jaeger  wrote:
>>
>> Or tipped on end such that it would fit, similar to moving a sofa.
> 
> Please don't help... I bought a small CNC mill today, and my wallet is empty. 
> :-)
> 

I get it - just like my basement is full  :)

Announcing TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS

[Johnny Billquist]

Well, about two weeks since my last announcement, but I figured I should 
do another one.


I've cut a new release of TCP/IP for RSX, and I encourage everyone to 
update to this latest release.


A short list of changes since my last release:

Documentation:
. I've worked some on the documentation, and filled out some parts that 
were previously TBD.


TCP:
. Performance improvements. In general, I've improved file transfer 
performance by about 20% by tuning when TCP ACK messages as well as 
window updates are sent. On links where packets are dropped from time to 
time, the performance improvements can be significantly higher.

. Bugfix. Retry counter were incorrectly reset under some circumstances.
. Bugfix. TCP did not resend an ACK if the same data was received twice.
. Bugfix. TCP sockets could erronously be left in a closed state with
  no task. However, looking at the socket, it looked like a task was
  associated.

FTP:
. Size calculation for stream type files in RSX mode was done incorrectly.

Applications:
. I've included a precompiled version of PCL.TSK

As usual, the distribution is available from:
ftp://mim.update.uu.se/bqtcp.dsk
ftp://mim.update.uu.se/bqtcp.tap
ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/rsx/tcpip/tcpip.dsk

The documentation is also available through ftp on Mim, or also at 
http://mim.update.uu.se/tcpipdoc


Johnny

--
Johnny Billquist  || "I'm on a bus
  ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: b...@softjar.se ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive! ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

Re: PDP-11/45-55 CPU fan assemblies

[Noel Chiappa]

> From: Tony Duell

> IIRC that 21" mounting box (and I assume therefore the fan assemblies)
> was used on other machines like the 11/40 (some versions), the 11/70,
> etc.

Yes, I _think_ the hardware was identical - I had an 11/40 for a year or two
'back in the day', before I got upgraded to an 11/45, but it's been a _long_
time since I've seen one, so I can't be positive. I tried to find parts
numbers in the drawings, but none of them (11/40, /45, or BA11-F) had them.

> the bottom one is a right pain, involving removing all the boards and
> dismantling the very fragile card guides

??? Mine still has the card guides in place, although the bottom fan assembly
is gone?

Thanks very much for the offer of help, but let's see what Henk turns up!


> From: Henk Gooijen

> The colors of the /55 are quite different from the 11/45.

Well, I did say that the front console was different! :-)

But other than that, I am pretty sure they are otherwise identical: same
backplane, same CPU boards (although the /45 can be found with both the
KB11-A and KB11-D variants; I _think_ the /55 only comes with the -D), etc.

> all 21" boxen (BA11-F ?)

My manuals say the 11/40 one is a BA11-FC, and the 11/45 is a BA11-FA. Not
sure what the difference is - maybe it's that the /45 has two H742's in it,
and the 11/40 has only one? Although I guess those are mounted on the cabinet
(although they are in some sense still part of the CPU chassis). Maybe it's
the different power harness/etc?

> The box is (AFAIR) mounted on the card cage with 4 or 6 (?) screws.

Mine looks like it uses 6.

Anyway, thanks very much, I have my fingers crossed that you will find both
of them when you look! :-)

Noel

Re: PDP-11/45-55 CPU fan assemblies

[Henk Gooijen]

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Noel Chiappa

Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:50 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: PDP-11/45-55 CPU fan assemblies

Hi, all: I recently bought a PDP-11/45 [well, a /55, to be technical; the 
/45,

/50 and /55 are completely identical except for i) the memory options
installed at purchase, and ii) the printing on the front console :-], but
alas, when I looked closely, it is missing both upper and lower CPU fan
assemblies. (No doubt, removed to allow cannabilization of the fans, to keep
another machine running.)

(For those who aren't familiar, these are long brackets to which a number of
the usual square fans are bolted; one is placed above, and one below, the
cards in the main pull-out rack of the CPU. The one on top is hinged along 
the
long edge, so it can be rolled back out out of the way, for running cables 
to

boards.)

So, does anyone i) have a spare set they don't want (I know, I know, I know,
p < .1, but maybe a miracle will happen); ii) have a set they can lend 
me
so that I can get the sheet-metal part copied (I might get a spare or two 
made

at the same time, depending on price, so we have some on hand); iii) failing
all of the above, be willing to take lots of pictures, and some 
measurements,

of a set, to aid in making reproductions.

Thanks (hopefully :-)!

  Noel

=
I have an 11/45 and 11/55. The colors of the /55 are quite different from
the 11/45.

p <.1 might need reconciliation ... I would have to check, but I am
pretty sure I have the bottom "box", complete with fans. However, I
remember it is *heavy*. I could remove the fans, but it is steel metal,
so it will still be heavy. Shipping would be from The Netherlands.
That is "world shipping" ... expensive :-/
I think I also have the top, but here my memory gets vague.
It will be a few days before I get back to my "museum" though.
Probably Tuesday evening.

greetz,
- Henk, PA8PDP 

Re: Teletype services

[John Ball]

>Curious as to the setup you are attempting this with, i.e. exactly what
modem are you
>using?
>One in the base of the 33 or some common external one?
>
>I'm not familiar with all the possible modem variations one might find in a
33, but
>AIUI the modem for the 33 at the standard 110 bps was Bell 101 standard.
>
>There's not going to be a lot to talk to out there using the old
parameters.
>Even if someone had an auto-baud dial-in setup out there somewhere, I
wouldn't
>anticipate it being compatible.
>
>We have a 101-standard modem (in the base of a 33) around here, but have
never tried it >or tried connecting it to a phone line, I'm also not
familiar with it enough to know
>how originate/answer issues are dealt with (whether it can do both) for
such 33 to 33
>communication.

Okay, this is where things get cool. For you folks who have issues with
javascript heavy pages, I don't recommend clicking the following image
links.

The teletype is connected to one of the original 300 baud Hayes Smartmodems
I had in a box doing nothing which solves a lot of problems with trying to
make an older dataset work with the much more plentiful Smartmodems and
their later clones by just about everyone. (which as a few have mentioned
have no issue working at 110 but with a catch) That I've found so far you
can dial pretty much any other hardware modem that isn't relying on a DSP or
sound CODEC (so late ISA and all PCI cards don't work) and it will work by
pure modulation. You just need to make sure the COM port on the machine is
set  for (or will automatically detect and switch to) 110 or else it assumes
300 and nothing works.

The quirk I added however is that I took the guts of the teletype's UCC6 and
a TWX controller and built a custom CCU that gives me feedback on the modem
status and lets me control and dial from the front panel. The modem itself
now hides in the stand and I don't need to type in commands to do anything.
It looks as if it's a factory option. I even added a feature where in
Automatic Answer mode the motor is relay controlled by the modem itself.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/CGS_1118
.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/IMG_1390
.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/teletype
/CGS_1131.jpg

I have a massive writeup and a video that are about ready to go live but I
need a set of videos demonstrating the setup connecting to a remote user,
connecting to a remote machine and a remote user dialing into the teletype.
That's where I was having my troubles.


>Why don't you suggest the easiest and obvious: use a small analog PBX.
>There are _plenty_ of them floating around, and most can be had for free;
>you could for example even use your FritzBox Phone (a DSL WiFi Router with
>analog phone ports). Then you can do internal calls from one port to any
?other port (and also use your old rotary dial phone with VoIP if you
>like).

People have been nagging me for the last year to get a Panasonic 308. I've
yet to come across one so far that wasn't weirdly priced, plus my parents
aren't interested in a PBX being installed in their house.

-John

Re: IBM System/32 available

[John Ball]

>I think I found Mike's Youtube videos of one of his other System/23. It
even has
>blinkenlights! Dang it, now I'm trying to figure out where I'd
hypothetically stick a
>System/23 in my little house. Probably in the breakfast nook, assuming it
would even
>fit through the front door. I doubt it could make the turns into my
computer room. If I
>call it a "desk" and then put more computers on top of it, then does it
really occupy
>any space? :)

I remember trying to figure out logistics on that System/32 that was on ebay
out east for like $50 on ebay a few years ago. Don't remember if it sold or
not butabsolutely nothing I could come up with made transporting it out west
affordable.

-John

Re: IBM System/32 available

[William Donzelli]

> But I don't think a System/32 would fit unless it can be broken down into 
> pieces no wider than a 19" rack.

I do not think you can break them down that far, however, IBM has
always been pretty careful to design cabinets that somehow can fit
through a standard office door. Sometimes it is a very tight squeeze.

--
Will

Re: PDP-11/45-55 CPU fan assemblies

[Henk Gooijen]

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: tony duell 
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:57 PM 
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
Subject: RE: PDP-11/45-55 CPU fan assemblies 


IIRC that 21" mounting box (and I assume therefore the fan assemblies)
was used on other machines like the 11/40 (some versions), the 11/70,
etc. I am not suggesting you raid one of those for parts, but it might be
something else to look at.


Yes, AFAIK, these were on all 21" boxen (BA11-F ?)


I do have an 11/45 here with the original fan trays. The top one is easy
to get at and measure, but IIRC the bottom one is a right pain, involving
removing all the boards and dismantling the very fragile card guides.


True, unless you simply remove the entire fan box from the bottom of
the card cage. Have a clean floor, you will have to lay on it, as a car
mechanic :-)  The box is (AFAIR) mounted on the card cage with 4 or
6 (?) screws.

- Henk

Re: RSX-11M-PLUS SYSGEN printouts

[Pontus Pihlgren]

On Sat, Nov 07, 2015 at 02:39:09AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-11-07 00:00, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> >An 11/84 I bought came with a couple of RSX-11M-PLUS V4.3 SYSGEN printouts; I
> >don't intend to run RSX on the machine, so is there any use to this printout,
> >or should I recycle it? If someone has a use for it, I'd be happy to send it
> >to them.
> 
> I'd seriously doubt there is any interest in such printouts. They
> will essentially tell you how the system was generated - which
> options, devices, and so on... How interesting is that?
> 

If you needed to regenerate install for said system, would it be useful? 
Or is everything in the docs?

/P

Re: WTB: Unix/Solaris Adobe FrameMaker 8

[Al Kossow]

On 11/7/15 4:45 PM, Kevin Parker wrote:


Try contacting Weird Stuff


Most of the boxed software goes out on the floor or in the 'free' box outside
the store.

Lyle might see it when it comes in, though generally they don't sort
used software or books, they just give it to retail.

PDP 8E Panel Paint Chipping - How to seal edges

[Ian Finder]

Hi all,

I've just emailed Rod Smallwood about a replacement panel, but in the
meantime, I have some chipping and curling at the edges of the panel paint
near the switches which seems to be getting worse and spreading.

Is there a way to seal the curling paint edges to prevent further damage?
perhaps clear nail polish?

thanks,

- Ian

-- 
   Ian Finder
   (206) 395-MIPS
   ian.fin...@gmail.com

RE: scrounging at recyclers

[Kip Koon]

Hi Cindy,
What type of stuff do you see?  

Kip Koon
computer...@sc.rr.com
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon


> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
Croxton
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 10:21 AM
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
> Subject: scrounging at recyclers
> 
> Often I come across various obsolete boards that SEEM to be what you guys
want, but I am never really sure. This week I passed up a
> large (at least 24" per side) HP server mainboard from the 70s, and some
Wang boards from the same period. Since I no longer have
> the warehouse, I have no way to keep them until somebody says they want
it. My question is, what should I bring home? I do not have
> email access while I am scrounging, so I can't post to this list.  What
besides old DEC boards are wanted?
> 
> 
> 
> Cindy
> 
> 
> 
> ---
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RE: WTB: Unix/Solaris Adobe FrameMaker 8

[Kevin Parker]

Real odd comment :-)

Try contacting Weird Stuff or visit their web site
http://www.weirdstuff.com/  - as the name implies, occasionally they pop up
with some really left field stuff. Maybe give them a call - if they don't
have it they might be able to point you somewhere.


++
Kevin Parker

++

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Kemp
Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2015 11:38 AM
To: gene...@classiccmp.org; "discuss...@classiccmp.org":On-Topic and
Off-Topic Posts 
Subject: Re: WTB: Unix/Solaris Adobe FrameMaker 8

Nothing this year, not even an odd comment.   :(


Thanks for looking anyway.  I'll try again fall 2016.

Jerry


On 11/ 3/15 02:13 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote:
> I am looking to purchase/acquire a copy of Adobe FrameMaker 8 for
Unix/Solaris.
>
> Straight from Adobe, FrameMaker had always been a pretty pricy item, 
> but I had always managed to acquire a legal copy, sometimes years old 
> and after the fact through eBay, etc.
>
> And through that method, I own legal copies+media of 5.x, 6.x and 7.x 
> for Unix and Mac.
>
> I had hoped to purchase a copy of version 8 via a similar method, but 
> several years have passed by, and I have never seen a copy of version 8
for sale.
>
> After version 8, FrameMaker was significantly changed and released for 
> dos/windows only.  I believe that the current version is 11.x or above.
>
> Also, in case it isn't obvious, this is for myself for home use only.
>
> Jerry