RE: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

[Dave Wade]

Jules,
 Where in the world are these...
Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules
> Richardson
> Sent: 02 September 2016 19:53
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> My local recycler contacted me to say he'd had some more old boards come
> in. They're scheduled to be sent for processing next Wednesday, but in a
> couple of hours I'm heading out of town for a few days - it's possible I
can
> rescue some of it next Tuesday when I'm back, so in the meantime
> comments as to whether anything is useful/important/etc. would be
> appreciated!
> 
> Apologies for photo quality, in a hurry and the only vacant spot was the
floor
> of the employee bathroom :-(
> 
> __Digital boards:__
> 
>M8014
>M8012
>M8061 (x2)
>M8013
>- I think the 8012 is a boot/terminator board, so that sounds handy.
The
> 8061's and M8013 are disk, I think - do modern emulators of the drives
exist?
> If they do, maybe I should snag the controllers? Not sure about M8014.
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/d1.jpg - terminal board? DB25F and
> BNC on one edge. There was another similar board with two BNCs and a
> DB25F which was marked "VT100 basic video" on the underside, so I'm
> assuming this is related.
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/d2.jpg - 8085 CPU, ROM, RAM etc.
> Rows of transistors which perhaps suggests motor control, i.e. printer?
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/d3.jpg - related to d2.jpg??
> 
> 
> __Fujitsu boards:__
> 
>At least, the main ICs are Fujitsu; there's no indication who the
boards
> belong to. These are standalone boards, not ones that plug into a
backplane.
> My hunch is that they're logic board pulls from old hard disks or tape
drives -
> i.e. they're just garbage now.
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/f1.jpg - 2x 50-way connectors,
> switch in corner. PCB marked "KGKM B16B-934C-003"
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/f2.jpg - 2x 50-way connectors. PCB
> marked "CZGM B16B-9240-001"
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/f3.jpg - 2 x 50-way connectors, 1x
> 60W, 1x 26W. PCB marked "CZFM B16B-9230-0010A"
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/f4.jpg - 2 x 50-way connectors, 1x
> 60W, 1x 26W. PCB marked "KGFMU B16B-9830-0010A"
> 
> 
> __Cipher boards:__
> 
>There are two of these:
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/c1.jpg
> 
> I suspect they're from some form of terminal (or maybe printer?), and now
> that they're separated from the rest of the system they're just junk. Note
> that someone seems to have scavenged a bunch of power transistors (or
> something) from them.
> 
> 
> __Emulex boards:__
> 
> I don't think any of these are the exact same models as the ones I rescued
> a little while ago, so I've included them here - but gut feeling is that
> they're still just tape (i.e. not SCSI) and so they're not worth the
trouble.
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/e1.jpg - 2x50W, 1x?? (I forgot to
> make a note). CU0210402 on the PCB, CS0110202 on the "main" IC.
> 
>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/e2.jpg - 2x50W. TC0210201 on the
> "main" IC.
> 
>There were a couple of others too each with a 60-way and pair of 26-way
>   connectors; I suspect those are SMD.
> 
> 
> 
> Chances are good I'll end up rescuing the DEC M boards on Tuesday
"just
> in case", but if anything else stands out then please shout; gut feeling
is
> that they're PCBs from things that would have been quite wonderful once
> when complete but are now completely useless to anyone.
> 
> cheers
> 
> Jules

Re: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

[jim stephens]

On 9/2/2016 11:52 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:

__Cipher boards:__

  There are two of these:

http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/c1.jpg

I suspect they're from some form of terminal (or maybe printer?), and 
now that they're separated from the rest of the system they're just 
junk. Note that someone seems to have scavenged a bunch of power 
transistors (or something) from them. 
This is the main logic board of an F890 streamer drive.  It has been 
stripped of the TO5 and heatsink down the top, and I'm amazed none of 
the connectors were clipped.


pretty much scrap unless you want to scavenge the remaining proms and 
label their locations for possible bit rot on another unit.


The auction below is for a ridiculously priced unit from some Microdata 
system.  It should only be listed for about 50 to 100 bucks as it almost 
certainly will need to be repaired.


thanks
Jim

Microdata-Modification-Streamer-Tape-CS20029000-029-Rev-A

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281611244780

Re: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

[jim stephens]

On 9/2/2016 11:52 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:

__Cipher boards:__

  There are two of these:

http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/c1.jpg

I suspect they're from some form of terminal (or maybe printer?), and 
now that they're separated from the rest of the system they're just 
junk. Note that someone seems to have scavenged a bunch of power 
transistors (or something) from them. 


Here is a Youtube video of someone loading tape on an 990 cache 
streamer.  It is a much upgraded, and probably SCSI interface version of 
the streamer, but the loading is very similar.  The electronics are 
pretty much completely different.


The above board by the way has P1/P2 formatted Pertec tape interface 
connectors in and out on the left end of the board you photographed.


The Cipher SCSI usually have 50 pin scsi single ended interfaces. There 
is a box that attaches to the rear of the Microdata drive in the 
previous ebay link which converts the SCSI interface in to a formatted 
P1/P2 Pertec interface.

thanks
Jim

Re: Docs for DEC MPS Intel 8008 Development System scanned

[COURYHOUSE]

Jack,   how  many of these are there out there?   ...  Nice  front panel on 
it  too!
 
Ed#  _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)  
 
 
In a message dated 8/26/2016 9:41:04 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
j...@ckrubin.us writes:

The MPS  (MicroProcessor Series) was an attempt by DEC to introduce an 
Intel 8008-based  system as a cost-effective replacement for minicomputers used 
in process  control. The system has its own 14-bit blinkenlights front panel 
for accessing  the 8008.

Docs here:  
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bezyixp76x2q3i4/AAAdGzzycbTIys1Ftde2BpR5a?dl=0  

I'll leave the docs up for a week or  so.

Jack

Re: DEC Pro 350/380 Memory Cards - Interchangeability?

[Paul Koning]

> On Sep 2, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Ethan Dicks  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Paul Koning  wrote:
>> Incidentally, the Pro technical manual says that the daughterboard can be up 
>> to 2 MB (but DEC only offers 512 kB).  It doesn't say how that is done.  It 
>> looks like the answer is that there are four RAS signals, so you can have 
>> four banks, 256k by 16 each.
> 
> Hmm... 2 Daughterboards at 2MB each?  A full 22-bit boat of RAM?
> Sweet!  

I was talking about the Pro 380, which has only one daughterboard.  Still, 2.5 
MB is not shabby.  See page 6-25 in the technical manual.

Then again: see also page 6-52 and 6-53, the memory config register.  And the 
description on page 26 of the Pro 380 schematics.  It says pretty clearly that 
you could use 256k DRAM on the motherboard, which (if you install all four 
banks) would mean 2 MB on the motherboard.   Both motherboard and daughterboard 
have two wires to indicate bank count (1..4) and a "256 kB memory chips" signal 
as well, so both are in principle capable of being up to 2 MB each.  What 
happens if you install 4 MB is not entirely clear, since the I/O page still has 
to go to I/O of course.

A four bank "256k" daughtercard would be straightforward; I figure you could do 
it with a few gates plus a 1Mx16 memory chip -- give or take the EDO issue 
discussed earlier.  Installing 256k memories in the motherboard of course is 
more of a job because you have to take the existing baord apart.

The Pro 350 only has one RAS signal.  Then again, the connector pinout (page 
5-129) shows a "Bank" signal; I wonder what that means.  Does anyone have Pro 
350 schematics?

paul

Re: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

[Ethan Dicks]

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Jules Richardson
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> My local recycler contacted me to say he'd had some more old boards come in...
>
> __Emulex boards:__
>
>
>   http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/e1.jpg - 2x50W, 1x?? (I forgot to
> make a note). CU0210402 on the PCB, CS0110202 on the "main" IC.

8 port serial board - there are UARTs and 8-pin 9636/9637 level
shifters in sight.

>   http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/e2.jpg - 2x50W. TC0210201 on the
> "main" IC.

That is a tape controller of some kind.

>   There were a couple of others too each with a 60-way and pair of 26-way
> connectors; I suspect those are SMD.

Most likely SMD.

-ethan

Re: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

[Al Kossow]

On 9/2/16 12:08 PM, Al Kossow wrote:

>> __Emulex boards:__
>>
> 
> T is normally tape and C is comm
> 
> so this all was probably from a system with smd disks, cipher tape, and 
> emulex comm mux
> 
> 

here is a nice picture page of emulex boards
http://www.compsy.de/moduls/emulex.htm

Re: DEC Pro 350/380 Memory Cards - Interchangeability?

[Ethan Dicks]

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Paul Koning  wrote:
> Incidentally, the Pro technical manual says that the daughterboard can be up 
> to 2 MB (but DEC only offers 512 kB).  It doesn't say how that is done.  It 
> looks like the answer is that there are four RAS signals, so you can have 
> four banks, 256k by 16 each.

Hmm... 2 Daughterboards at 2MB each?  A full 22-bit boat of RAM?
Sweet!  I have more than one Pro - I started upgrading one with
256kbit DRAMs.  I also had a PSU smoke on my Pro380 and got a
replacement but haven't installed it yet.  I'm already in "repair all
the PDP-11s" mode, so I'll add it to the stack.  Someday, I'll get
2BSD up on at least one of them (for now, I have RT-11 and Venix)

-ethan

Re: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

[Adrian Graham]

On 02/09/2016 19:52, "Jules Richardson" 
wrote:

>http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/d1.jpg - terminal board? DB25F and
> BNC on one edge. There was another similar board with two BNCs and a DB25F
> which was marked "VT100 basic video" on the underside, so I'm assuming this
> is related.

That's the logic board from a VT100 as you guessed. No AVO or owt special
apart from rust. Worth saving. Pity you're so far away from me these days :)

-- 
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?

Re: More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

[Al Kossow]

On 9/2/16 11:52 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:

> __Fujitsu boards:__
> 

from 8" SMD disks


> __Cipher boards:__
> 

from 1/2" streaming tapes


> __Emulex boards:__
> 

T is normally tape and C is comm

so this all was probably from a system with smd disks, cipher tape, and emulex 
comm mux

More mystery recycler boards - DEC, Fujitsu(??), Cipher, Emulex

[Jules Richardson]

Hi All,

My local recycler contacted me to say he'd had some more old boards come 
in. They're scheduled to be sent for processing next Wednesday, but in a 
couple of hours I'm heading out of town for a few days - it's possible I 
can rescue some of it next Tuesday when I'm back, so in the meantime 
comments as to whether anything is useful/important/etc. would be appreciated!


Apologies for photo quality, in a hurry and the only vacant spot was the 
floor of the employee bathroom :-(


__Digital boards:__

  M8014
  M8012
  M8061 (x2)
  M8013
  - I think the 8012 is a boot/terminator board, so that sounds handy. The 
8061's and M8013 are disk, I think - do modern emulators of the drives 
exist? If they do, maybe I should snag the controllers? Not sure about M8014.


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/d1.jpg - terminal board? DB25F and 
BNC on one edge. There was another similar board with two BNCs and a DB25F 
which was marked "VT100 basic video" on the underside, so I'm assuming this 
is related.


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/d2.jpg - 8085 CPU, ROM, RAM etc. 
Rows of transistors which perhaps suggests motor control, i.e. printer?


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/d3.jpg - related to d2.jpg??


__Fujitsu boards:__

  At least, the main ICs are Fujitsu; there's no indication who the boards 
belong to. These are standalone boards, not ones that plug into a 
backplane. My hunch is that they're logic board pulls from old hard disks 
or tape drives - i.e. they're just garbage now.


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/f1.jpg - 2x 50-way connectors, 
switch in corner. PCB marked "KGKM B16B-934C-003"


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/f2.jpg - 2x 50-way connectors. PCB 
marked "CZGM B16B-9240-001"


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/f3.jpg - 2 x 50-way connectors, 1x 
60W, 1x 26W. PCB marked "CZFM B16B-9230-0010A"


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/f4.jpg - 2 x 50-way connectors, 1x 
60W, 1x 26W. PCB marked "KGFMU B16B-9830-0010A"



__Cipher boards:__

  There are two of these:

  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/c1.jpg

I suspect they're from some form of terminal (or maybe printer?), and now 
that they're separated from the rest of the system they're just junk. Note 
that someone seems to have scavenged a bunch of power transistors (or 
something) from them.



__Emulex boards:__

I don't think any of these are the exact same models as the ones I rescued 
a little while ago, so I've included them here - but gut feeling is that 
they're still just tape (i.e. not SCSI) and so they're not worth the trouble.


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/e1.jpg - 2x50W, 1x?? (I forgot to 
make a note). CU0210402 on the PCB, CS0110202 on the "main" IC.


  http://www.classiccmp.org/acornia/ub/e2.jpg - 2x50W. TC0210201 on the 
"main" IC.


  There were a couple of others too each with a 60-way and pair of 26-way 
 connectors; I suspect those are SMD.




Chances are good I'll end up rescuing the DEC M boards on Tuesday "just 
in case", but if anything else stands out then please shout; gut feeling is 
that they're PCBs from things that would have been quite wonderful once 
when complete but are now completely useless to anyone.


cheers

Jules

Re: DEC Pro 350/380 Memory Cards - Interchangeability?

[Paul Koning]

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Eric Smith  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Paul Koning  wrote:
>> Yes, the one I saw when I made that comment is an MSM51V18165F by Lapis, a 
>> 1M by 16 "fast page mode" EDO DRAM.
> 
> If it's EDO, it may not be compatible with systems that weren't
> designed for EDO, and since none of the 16-pin parts were EDO, I'd
> avoid it.
> 
> "Normal" and FPM memory stops driving the data output when CAS is
> deasserted, regardless of the state of RAS.  EDO continues driving the
> data output even with CAS deasserted, unless RAS is also deasserted.

The ISSI memory calls itself "DRAM with fast page mode", it does not say "EDO". 
 But judging from the timing diagrams (which show that data out turns off after 
the later of RAS and CAS deassertion) it sounds like "fast page mode" is a 
confusing way to say "EDO".

Now the question becomes what the Pro actually does.  I don't see it in the 
documentation or schematics, unfortunately.

Incidentally, the Pro technical manual says that the daughterboard can be up to 
2 MB (but DEC only offers 512 kB).  It doesn't say how that is done.  It looks 
like the answer is that there are four RAS signals, so you can have four banks, 
256k by 16 each.

paul

Re: Atari / GEM docs Free to good home (York, UK)

[Pete Turnbull]

On 02/09/2016 18:02, Al Kossow wrote:

Did anyone else get the original message from Pete?
The last message I got from the list was on 9-1-16 12:28PM from Jay, until 
Austin's reply a few minutes ago.


I'd just blame it on gremlins.  Probably the same ones that infested my 
mail program (or, more likely, Windows) and posted one of the messages 
twice (once with extra CRLFs) and duplicated the last paragraphs in 
another.  Bandwidth issue?  What, you don't all have superfast unlimited 
fibre connections out there?  Sorry :-(


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull

Re: Atari / GEM docs Free to good home (York, UK)

[Al Kossow]

weird.. they are in the archive. must be my mail filters

http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2016-September/date.html


On 9/2/16 10:26 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> thanks. it may be a cctech vs cctalk issue then.
>

Re: Atari / GEM docs Free to good home (York, UK)

[Al Kossow]

thanks. it may be a cctech vs cctalk issue then.


On 9/2/16 10:15 AM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Al Kossow  wrote:
> 
>> Did anyone else get the original message from Pete?
>> The last message I got from the list was on 9-1-16 12:28PM from Jay, until
>> Austin's reply a few minutes ago.
>>
>>
> I got three separate messages from Pete about stuff to give away.
> 
> 
>>
>> On 9/2/16 9:49 AM, Austin Pass wrote:
>>> Hi Pete.
>>>
>>> I would very much like these documents, amd can collect (I'm in
>> Huddersfield).
>>>
 On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:36, Pete Turnbull 
>> wrote:

>>
>>
> 
> 

Re: Atari / GEM docs Free to good home (York, UK)

[Eric Christopherson]

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Al Kossow  wrote:

> Did anyone else get the original message from Pete?
> The last message I got from the list was on 9-1-16 12:28PM from Jay, until
> Austin's reply a few minutes ago.
>
>
I got three separate messages from Pete about stuff to give away.


>
> On 9/2/16 9:49 AM, Austin Pass wrote:
> > Hi Pete.
> >
> > I would very much like these documents, amd can collect (I'm in
> Huddersfield).
> >
> >> On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:36, Pete Turnbull 
> wrote:
> >>
>
>


-- 
Eric Christopherson

Re: Atari / GEM docs Free to good home (York, UK)

[Al Kossow]

Did anyone else get the original message from Pete?
The last message I got from the list was on 9-1-16 12:28PM from Jay, until 
Austin's reply a few minutes ago.


On 9/2/16 9:49 AM, Austin Pass wrote:
> Hi Pete.
> 
> I would very much like these documents, amd can collect (I'm in Huddersfield).
>
>> On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:36, Pete Turnbull  wrote:
>>

Re: Atari / GEM docs Free to good home (York, UK)

[Austin Pass]

Hi Pete.

I would very much like these documents, amd can collect (I'm in Huddersfield).

Regards,
Austin.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:36, Pete Turnbull  wrote:
> 
> These are primarily for Atari ST, mostly photocopies in A4 ring binders, to 
> go as one lot:
> 
> * ISV Development System documentation for Atari 520ST
> 
>includes BIOS listing and more.
> 
>ring-bound
> 
>The following items are probably provided as part of this...
> 
> 
> 
> * Listing of GEM "hello" program (GEM sample desktop accessory)
>Module: HELLO, by Tom Holander, Digital Research Feb 1986
>ring-bound photocopy
> 
> * Atari ST BASIC Source Book, 1985
>ring-bound, printed original
> 
> * Atari Logo Source Book
>1985, small spiral-wire-bound published copy
> 
> * GEM PRogrammer's Guide - Volume 1: VDI
>GEM PRogrammer's Guide - Volume 2: AES
>1985, Digital Research, ring-bound photocopy
> 
> * GEM DOS 1.0  Spec Version 13
>May 16 1985 Digital Research
>"DR Confidential: Internal Use Only.
> Not to be copied or given to customers."
>ring-bound photocopy
> 
> * "The Long-Awaited 'Line-A' Document"
>describes "quick-and-dirty" graphics access using 68000 Line A
>exception.
>Ring-bound with GEM DOS 1.0 Spec
> 
> * ST Series BIOS Rev.A  2/13/85 (Atari 130 ST and 520 ST)
>"Atari Corporation Confidential"
>Ring-bound with GEM DOS 1.0 Spec
> 
> 
> I need to move these before Saturday 17th September (2 weeks from now). If 
> they're not claimed by then, I'll donate them to The Computer Sheds 
> (http://www.computermuseum.org.uk).
> 
> Because of the weight, it would be expensive to ship these things, though if 
> anyone is really keen I'll consider it.  Collection from York would be 
> greatly preferred (tea and biscuits supplied) - or I can probably take them 
> to the DEC Legacy Event in Windermere for collection on the weekend of 
> 15/16th October (pay for your own tea and biscuits).
> 
> -- 
> Pete
> Pete Turnbull

and one more I almost missed... FTGH

[Pete Turnbull]

How many people remember the Wren Executive System?  Or have even heard 
of it?


Well, you can now own the manual for this not-very-successful 
sort-of-like-an-Osborne luggable!


Free to good home from York, UK.  Loose pages included.  Terms and 
conditions apply.  YMMV.  E


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull

Atari / GEM docs Free to good home (York, UK)

[Pete Turnbull]

These are primarily for Atari ST, mostly photocopies in A4 ring binders, 
to go as one lot:


* ISV Development System documentation for Atari 520ST

includes BIOS listing and more.

ring-bound

The following items are probably provided as part of this...



* Listing of GEM "hello" program (GEM sample desktop accessory)
Module: HELLO, by Tom Holander, Digital Research Feb 1986
ring-bound photocopy

* Atari ST BASIC Source Book, 1985
ring-bound, printed original

* Atari Logo Source Book
1985, small spiral-wire-bound published copy

* GEM PRogrammer's Guide - Volume 1: VDI
GEM PRogrammer's Guide - Volume 2: AES
1985, Digital Research, ring-bound photocopy

* GEM DOS 1.0  Spec Version 13
May 16 1985 Digital Research
"DR Confidential: Internal Use Only.
 Not to be copied or given to customers."
ring-bound photocopy

* "The Long-Awaited 'Line-A' Document"
describes "quick-and-dirty" graphics access using 68000 Line A
exception.
Ring-bound with GEM DOS 1.0 Spec

* ST Series BIOS Rev.A  2/13/85 (Atari 130 ST and 520 ST)
"Atari Corporation Confidential"
Ring-bound with GEM DOS 1.0 Spec


I need to move these before Saturday 17th September (2 weeks from now). 
If they're not claimed by then, I'll donate them to The Computer Sheds 
(http://www.computermuseum.org.uk).


Because of the weight, it would be expensive to ship these things, 
though if anyone is really keen I'll consider it.  Collection from York 
would be greatly preferred (tea and biscuits supplied) - or I can 
probably take them to the DEC Legacy Event in Windermere for collection 
on the weekend of 15/16th October (pay for your own tea and biscuits).


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull

more stuff FTGH (York, UK)

[Pete Turnbull]

And finally, some ancient and thus debatably classic software:


* Zenith Data Systems - Microsoft Windows 3.0/3.1
   Actually just the manuals (yes, once upon a time, in a universe
   far far away, Windows had actual manuals) and license.

* Tulip Computers  Windows 386  V2.10D
   Ring binder including User Guide, Desktop Applications manual,
   Write manual, Paint manual
   4 x 3.5" HD disks - 3 for Windows, 1 for Tulip utilities

* AppleShare 4.0
   boxed, assorted manuals etc,  4 x 3.5" HD disks, 1 x CDROM
   includes the serial number needed to validate your server

* HiSoft C
   Integrated Compiler/Editor manuals 1985-88 for CP/M
   2 x 3" disks (presumably for Amstrad PCW)
   All in the original binder, with serial no.

* HiSoft Nevada Cobol
   CP/M compiler/editor
   manuals, 3" disk for Amstrad PCW, with s/no.


I need to move these before Saturday 17th September (2 weeks from now). 
If they're not moved by then, I'll donate them to The Computer Sheds 
(http://www.computermuseum.org.uk).


Because of the weight, it would be expensive to ship these things, 
though if anyone is really keen I'll consider it.  Collection from York 
would be greatly preferred (tea and biscuits supplied) - or I can 
probably take them to the DEC Legacy Event in Windermere for collection 
on the weekend of 15/16th October (pay for your own tea and biscuits).


I need to move these before Saturday 17th September (2 weeks from now). 
If they're not claimed by then, I'll donate them to The Computer Sheds 
(http://www.computermuseum.org.uk).


Because of the weight, it would be expensive to ship these things, 
though if anyone is really keen I'll consider it.  Collection from York 
would be greatly preferred (tea and biscuits supplied) - or I can 
probably take them to the DEC Legacy Event in Windermere for collection 
on the weekend of 15/16th October (pay for your own tea and biscuits).


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull

Atari / GEM docs Free to good home (York, UK)

[Pete Turnbull]

These are primarily for Atari ST, mostly photocopies in A4 ring binders, 
to go as one lot:


* ISV Development System documentation for Atari 520ST
   includes BIOS listing and more.
   ring-bound
   The following items were probably provided as part of this...

* Listing of GEM "hello" program (GEM sample desktop accessory)
   Module: HELLO, by Tom Holander, Digital Research Feb 1986
   ring-bound photocopy

* Atari ST BASIC Source Book, 1985
   ring-bound, printed original

* Atari Logo Source Book
   1985, small spiral-wire-bound published copy

* GEM PRogrammer's Guide - Volume 1: VDI
   GEM PRogrammer's Guide - Volume 2: AES
   1985, Digital Research, ring-bound photocopy

* GEM DOS 1.0  Spec Version 13
   May 16 1985 Digital Research
   "DR Confidential: Internal Use Only.
Not to be copied or given to customers."
   ring-bound photocopy

* "The Long-Awaited 'Line-A' Document"
   describes "quick-and-dirty" graphics access using 68000 Line A
   exception.
   Ring-bound with GEM DOS 1.0 Spec

* ST Series BIOS Rev.A  2/13/85 (Atari 130 ST and 520 ST)
   "Atari Corporation Confidential"
   Ring-bound with GEM DOS 1.0 Spec


I need to move these before Saturday 17th September (2 weeks from now). 
If they're not claimed by then, I'll donate them to The Computer Sheds 
(http://www.computermuseum.org.uk).


Because of the weight, it would be expensive to ship these things, 
though if anyone is really keen I'll consider it.  Collection from York 
would be greatly preferred (tea and biscuits supplied) - or I can 
probably take them to the DEC Legacy Event in Windermere for collection 
on the weekend of 15/16th October (pay for your own tea and biscuits).


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull

Free to good home (York, UK)

[Pete Turnbull]

I'm trying to clear some space so I can actually get to classic things I 
want to play with, so I have the following to give away if anyone is 
interested:



* Cromemco 16FDC Floppy Disk Controller Instruction Manual (2 copies)

* Cromemco D+7A Input/Output Module Instruction Manual

* Digital (DEC) BC19V-02 cable (DB25 to DD50)

* HP JetDirect card (10base2, 10baseT, Localalk)

* 5 x Iomega/Fuji ZIP (PC100) disks, mostly new unused

* Box of 3.5" DSDD and HD floppies with assorted software, including
  Borland Turbo Assembler
  Borland Turbo Debugger
  Borland Turbo Profiler
  3 sets of 4 disks : Borland Turbo Pascal for Windows
  set of 3 Borland Turbo Pascal Professional disk:
Install/Turbo Vision/Compiler
Help/BGI/Utilities
TPCX
 Computer Associates SuperProject 3-user Lanpak
 Microsoft MS-DOS 5 Upgrade
 about 28 R:BASE disks, mostly V.4.0
 about 25 CD-ROM driver disks (HD not DD)
 a couple of 3Com Etherdisks 5.01  (HD not DD)
 about 20 Logitech Mouseware 8.2 Multilingual disks:
   2 x Disk 1 of 2
   18 x Disk 2 of 2

* The Penguin Computing Book, Susan Curran and Ray Curnow,
Penguin Books 1983, ISBN 0140465995

* Mathematical Logic for Computer Science, M. Ben-Ari,
Prentice Hall 1993, ISBN 013564139X

* 8086/8088 16-Bit Microprocessor Primer, Christopher L Morgan and
Mitchell Waite, Byte Books 1982, ISBN 0070431094

* Fundamentals of Operating Systems, 4th Edition 1990, A.M.Lister
and R.D.Eager, Macmillan 1979-1988, ISBN 0333469879

* Structured Computer Organisation, 3rd Edition 1990, Andrew
Tanenbaum, Prentice-Hall 1990, ISBN 0138528721

* Acorn Archimedes 400 Series User Manual, and Welcome Guide

* Assembly Language Programming for the Electron (Addison Wesley,
John Ferguson and Tony Shaw) ISBN 0201145278

* a collection of Archive (Acorn Archimedes users' magazine)
from Vol.1 No.1 (Oct.1987) to Vol.5 No.1 (Oct.1991)
plus half a dozen extras.

* 10 Electron User cassettes, Oct.1989 - July 1990.

* manuals and stuff for BBC Micro:
  Wordwise Plus manual, 2nd Addition (sic), 1985 (Computer Concepts)
  ViewStore User Guide, 1st Edition, 1985 (Acorn, Acornsoft)
ISBN 0907876455
  View User Guide, 2nd Edition, 1986 (Acorn, Acornsoft)
ISBN 1852500212
  View User Guide, 1st Edition, 1985 (Acorn, Acornsoft)
ISBN 0907876277
  Into View, 2nd Edition, 1984 (Acorn, Acornsoft)
ISBN 0907876811
  View Guide, 2nd Edition, 1983 (Acorn, Acornsoft)
ISBN 0907876803
  View Reference Card (SBB31/R), 1985 (Acorn, Acornsoft)
  ViewSheet Reference Card (SBB07/R), 1984 (Acorn, Acornsoft)
  Electron Plus 1 User Guide, 1984 (Acorn Computers)
  Graphs and Charts, 1st Edition, 1982  (Acorn, Acornsoft)
ISBN 0907876048
  Graphics Extension ROM User Manual  (Acorn, Acornsoft)
(copy; not original, but comb-bound)



A few of the above are also going on a well-known auction site, but 
naturally ClassicCmp subscribers have priority :-)


I need to move these before Saturday 17th September (2 weeks from now). 
If they're not moved by then, I'll donate them to The Computer Sheds 
(http://www.computermuseum.org.uk).


Because of the weight, it would be expensive to ship many of these 
things, though if anyone is really keen I'll consider it.  Collection 
from York would be greatly preferred (tea and biscuits supplied) - or I 
can probably take them to the DEC Legacy Event in Windermere for 
collection on the weekend of 15/16th October (pay for your own tea and 
biscuits).


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull