Micral N (1974) for sale

[Stéphane Tsacas via cctalk]

Hi,

If it happens you're in Tours (in France, https://goo.gl/maps/BXNZ4YJixYq)
June 11 2017, a Micral N from 1974 will be auctioned.
More info -- in French -- on the auction house website
https://www.rouillac.com/fr/news-1252-le_micral_n_premier_micro_ordinateur

Starting price : 20 K€.

Good luck ;-)

-- 
stéphane tsacas

Re: Firefly dual processor card

[Antonio Carlini via cctalk]

On 30/05/17 20:16, Mark Kahrs via cctech wrote:

The actual Firefly board.  Like this one:

http://www.digibarn.com/collections/parts/dec-firefly/



On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Eric Smith  wrote:


Did you get an actual Firefly (research) board, or a prduction VAXstation
3520/3540 board? I don't think you're likely to find schematics or pinouts
for either, but it's not impossible to find 3520/3540 stuff, while I've
never before heard of anyone encountering any actual Firefly boards in the
wild.


If it has the same three connector blocks that are present at the bottom 
of this photo:


http://www.digibarn.com/collections/parts/dec-firefly/Image42.jpg

then I would guess that it is not a VAXstation 3520 (KA60 CPU).

Are there any obvious part numbers?

Antonio
arcarl...@iee.org



--
Antonio Carlini
arcarl...@iee.org

Re: Firefly dual processor card

[Eric Smith via cctalk]

Did you get an actual Firefly (research) board, or a prduction VAXstation
3520/3540 board? I don't think you're likely to find schematics or pinouts
for either, but it's not impossible to find 3520/3540 stuff, while I've
never before heard of anyone encountering any actual Firefly boards in the
wild.

Re: What is this bus?

[Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk]

On 5/30/17, 7:28 AM, "cctalk on behalf of Rico Pajarola via cctalk"
 wrote:


>looks like STD Bus (
>http://www.winsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/specs/std_section1.pdf)

What would give you that idea? Neither the number of pins, nor the spacing
of the connector as described in the initial post match...

Re: Firefly dual processor card

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

Impressive.  You might be able to get some information from DEC research lab 
reports.  Some SRC reports describe aspects of Firefly, but probably not the 
stuff you need.  It may be that some of the creators are  still reachable, in 
which case you might get first hand data.

paul

> On May 30, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Mark Kahrs via cctech  
> wrote:
> 
> The actual Firefly board.  Like this one:
> 
> http://www.digibarn.com/collections/parts/dec-firefly/
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Eric Smith  wrote:
> 
>> Did you get an actual Firefly (research) board, or a prduction VAXstation
>> 3520/3540 board? I don't think you're likely to find schematics or pinouts
>> for either, but it's not impossible to find 3520/3540 stuff, while I've
>> never before heard of anyone encountering any actual Firefly boards in the
>> wild.
>> 
>> 

Re: Anyone remember ZOSO disks?

[Mike Loewen via cctalk]

On Tue, 30 May 2017, Jason T via cctalk wrote:


Looks like this guy was the original Caps-Lock Warrior (though likely
out of technical necessity more than style).  Thanks for posting this;
I'd never heard of him.


   I think he was relate to the BOFH.  :-)


Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology  http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

Re: Anyone remember ZOSO disks?

[Jason T via cctalk]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Amardeep S Chana via cctalk
 wrote:
> Back in the 80's I had some archive disks (maybe SIG/M or CPM/UG or maybe
> something else?) which had files on the disk named like ZOSO.022 (for disk
> #22) which was the Star Trek basic game disk.  I'm attaching below the text
> from that file (best viewed with a monospace font).  I seem to recall this
> person who went by the moniker of Zoso had written others as well, but I
> can't find them right now.

Looks like this guy was the original Caps-Lock Warrior (though likely
out of technical necessity more than style).  Thanks for posting this;
I'd never heard of him.

-j

Re: Any PDP11s for sale in the UK?

[Ian S. King via cctalk]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I had a couple of emails about but nothing has come of them (at least,
> not yet anyway). The LSI models are perhaps safer to send across Europe?
> Maybe an 11/23, 34 or 73?
>
> I'd say that you're more likely to find an 11/23 or perhaps an 11/03, the
latter being a less-capable version of the former.  The 11/73 is fairly
powerful and valued, and less available.  The 11/34 is a Unibus machine,
and I've not seen one that wasn't rack-mounted.  -- Ian
-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

The Mysterious Zoso

[Shoppa, Tim via cctalk]

Al struck a memory cell I haven't used in at least a quarter century. No, I do 
not know who
The Mysterious Zoso actually was but he was legendary.  His flaming just barely 
crosses the
line into early trench industry journalism I guess. Certainly not the shine of 
Charlie Matco
or Ted Dziuba, but maybe the first step in that direction?

>From CPMUG 21:

BITCH, BITCH, BITCH !!! SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST INCAPABLE OF BEING CONTENT. NO
SOONER THAN I HAD FINISHED MY REPLY TO ALL OF THE TTY PEOPLE (VOLUME 13.21),
TONY INFORMED ME THAT SOME VDM OWNERS HAD TROUBLE READING MY 80 CHARACTER
LINES ON THEIR QUAINT I/O DEVICES. I WILL NOT ACCOMODATE YOU, AND HERE'S WHY:
I PAID GOOD BUCKS FOR THE TOOLS I USE, AND I CHOOSE TO USE THEM. FRANKLY, I
CAN'T FATHOM WHY ANYONE WOULD ADMIT TO OWNING ONE OF THOSE THINGS AT ALL. I'VE
SEEN WHAT YOU GUYS ARE UP TO: THOSE HORRID, NARROW LITTLE PROGRAMS WRITTEN IN
PROCESSOR TECHNOLOGY'S 5K BASIC (YOU KNOW THE ONES WITH A LINE FOR EVERY SINGLE
LITTLE THING - 15 DECWRITER PAGES JUST TO PRINT YOUR VERSION OF WUMPUS [ABOUT
WHICH I SHALL BE HEARD FROM LATER]). YOU GUYS HAVE EXPOSED YOURSELVES TO CAT-
ARACTS AND MYOPIA BY LOOKING AT YOUR VDM'ED TVS. LEAVE ME OUT OF IT !!! THE
COMPANY WHO SUPPLIED THOSE B & W CRAYON BOXES TO YOU IS A PLACE TO SUSPECT...
SEMI-KITS, 8K BASIC THAT WILL BE READY IN 1976 AND ENOUGH ADVERTISING TO EN-
SURE YOU WILL HAVE PAID TOO MUCH FOR YOUR 'SOL'; ANOTHER MITS I THINK...

  ZOSO

Re: (Mostly Sun) Hardware and Docs in Arlington MA

[Todd Goodman via cctalk]

Hi Phil,

I'm interested in all of these (especially the AT "UNIX PC")

I live in southern NH so pick up is possible (though timing might be a
problem.)

Thank you!

Todd

* Phil Budne via cctalk  [170529 18:19]:
> The following would like to find new homes: Not ESPECIALLY interested
> in boxing/shipping (the docs would be easy, and would love to see them
> preserved for posterity).
> 
> BOXED SunOS 4.0 doc set with 4.0.1 update
> 2 lg , 1 medium, 2 small boxes
> Also have SunOS 4.1.2 install manual
> 
> Sun Hardware (specs from stickers, not validated)
> 2 SPARCstation IPC
> 2 SPARCstation IPX (1 w/ PowerUp 80Mhz CPU, which stopped working?)
>   any all of the above may have bad power supplies
> 2 SPARCstation LX (one marked 32MB, no floppy)
> 1 SPARCstation Classic (no floppy)
> 3 SPARCstation 10 (10/30 w/ 16MB, 10/41 w/ 80MB, 10/41 w/ 64MB)
> 1 SPARCstation 4 (bad P/S)
> 1 SPARCstation 5
> 
> SUN QIC (150?) drive in box
> SCSI CD-ROM in enclosure
> Many 50 pin SCSI cables
> 
> AT "UNIX PC" (7300?) w/ mobo, monitor, keyboard & mouse
> No hard drive.  The owner got bored when the grounding on the
> HD started making noise.  I think he yanked the 68000 chip,
> and perhaps others.

Re: What is this bus?

[Rico Pajarola via cctalk]

looks like STD Bus (
http://www.winsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/specs/std_section1.pdf)

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 05/29/2017 10:13 AM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote:
>
> > But it's also quite possible that the PS and the backplane don't even
> > belong together.
>
> ^ This was my initial guess.  It just looked wrong.
>
> --Chuck
>

Re: KL10 backplane on eBay

[Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk]

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:06:58AM -0700, Ali wrote:
> > 
> > How does one end up with a KL10 backplane anyway?
> 
> "This backplane used to be installed in one of two DECsystem 20 units we had
> deployed at Agfa Gevaert in Munich, Germany. I was the field service
> engineer in charge of this site. We had to replace this backplane with a new
> one back in the late 1980s due to some intermittent problems and I was able
> to keep the replaced item as a souvenir."
> 
> -Ali
> 

Ah, goes to show how much I expect from ebay descriptions..

/P

RE: KL10 backplane on eBay

[Ali via cctalk]

> 
> How does one end up with a KL10 backplane anyway?

"This backplane used to be installed in one of two DECsystem 20 units we had
deployed at Agfa Gevaert in Munich, Germany. I was the field service
engineer in charge of this site. We had to replace this backplane with a new
one back in the late 1980s due to some intermittent problems and I was able
to keep the replaced item as a souvenir."

-Ali

Re: KL10 backplane on eBay

[Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 03:31:17PM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> Another eBait wonder:
> 
>   http://www.ebay.com/itm/182597510806
> 
> The listing says "Local pick-up only", and it's in Denver, Colorado.  Someone
> should really save this (although the chances of finding all the boards to go
> with it is pretty slim).
> 

And power supply and front end computer and memory and peripherals and ..

How does one end up with a KL10 backplane anyway?

/P