Re: FPGA implementations of DEC processors

2018-03-21 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
I’ve been working on updating my DEC emulation site, that includes the FPGA 
section.  That might help you find some, I’m sure that I have plenty of gaps.

http://www.avanthar.com/healyzh/decemulation/pdp_fpga.html

Zane

Sent from my iPod

> On Mar 21, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are enough pdp8 fpga that they have started to calll themselves
> YAPDP8FPGA.
> 
> So what are the really good FPGA DEC processors?
> 
> -chuck



Re: R: AlphaServers

2018-03-21 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
I have a 3000-300 ( I think ) with cpu and PS, but missing a few pieces.
Also a smaller 3000 and a load of memory.

Please contact me off list if you have any interest.

Anyone need any 5000s?

Thanks, Paul

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> No converters,
>
> in the vms only box I've 2 original dec branded disks ( rz2cc-kb , 4gb
> disk )
> in the other I swapped out one of them to put a normal scsi 68 hd for
> tru64. I think an Atlas, 36 or 72gb
> Added a dvd and a floppy unit in each, too.
>
> Each has standard a 2nd dec network card ( 10mb + coax ) , PBXGB-AA, 2nd
> dec scsi controller. One has a 3rd 10/100 dec network card
>
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Douglas
> Taylor via cctalk
> Inviato: mercoledì 21 marzo 2018 19:17
> A: Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
> Oggetto: Re: R: AlphaServers
>
> On 3/21/2018 9:58 AM, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk wrote:
> > Two Digital Pws 500/au, one with vms (8.4), one with vms (8.4) and tru64
> (latest version, supposedly)
> >
> > -Messaggio originale-
> > Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di John
> Blake via cctalk
> > Inviato: mercoledì 21 marzo 2018 10:49
> > A: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> > Oggetto: Re: AlphaServers
> >
> > I've got two, the first being an 3000/400 64mb with two 146 gb SCSI-320
> drives running on converters, one with openBSD 6 and the other with openvms
> 8.4 running headless.  I doubt I'll ever be able to find the monitor, much
> less the needed cables and keyboard/mouse to turn it into the desktop it
> was supposed to be, so I've got a color turbochannel framebuffer if anyone
> has any use for it.  The second is an alphaserver ds10l with the 617mhz
> EV67 processor, 1.5 gb ram and a radeon video card on the sole pci port,
> which runs openvms 8.4 on one hard drive and the most recent available
> version of unsupported debian linux on the other (I think it's sid?) as a
> workstation.
> >
> > Nekochan.net is a fair resource for hobbyist knowledge, possibly the
> only place online where people are still futzing about with Tru64.
> > comp.os.vms on usenet (or the info-vax email gateway) is where all of
> the latest news and deep tech discussion goes on.  vcfed.org has a very
> healthy DEC forum too.
> >
> >
> What are the drives and converters are you using?
>
>


Re: PDP8/e programmers consoles

2018-03-21 Thread allison via cctalk
On 03/21/2018 10:04 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Doug Ingraham via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:59 PM, allison via cctalk
>>>  wrote:
>>>
> Has anyone ever seen a PDP8/i style console for the PDP8/e?
>>> I know the 8/I panel won't work with an 8/e. My question was if there
>>> was a special seen in the wild that had all the register values like
>>> the 8/i did since the panel interface clearly supports it.
>>>
>> This would certainly be possible.  I discussed exactly this possibility a
>> few years
>> ago with a now departed friend.  We did a cursory search at the time and
>> didn't
>> turn up anything.  Of course there are lots of smart people out there who
>> do a lot
>> of clever things and never bother to tell the net.  My bet would be that
>> nobody
>> has wanted this enough to make their own omnibus front panel when there are
>> still real panels and machines readily available.
>>
>> I guess you can be the first!  Best wishes.
> Not sure I want to go there...
>
> If you have ever looked at the DEC part number listing on bitsaver's
> you will be amazed at all the specials that were done. And that was
> what I was really interested in. Did DEC ever make a fancy panel that
> displayed all the registers? The original designer had it in mind
> since he displays a selected register at runtime during TS1 and when
> the processor is stopped since that is TS1.
>
There were versions for Telco, Power, and other industries never minding
the typeset 8s.
A few were done by CSSS (customer services special systems) for military
and other
more unique specialized systems.

>> --
>> Doug Ingraham
>> PDP-8 SN 1175
> Charles Dickman
> PDP-8/e SN 2630

Can a panel that displays everything like a 8I be built, yes.  Keep in
mind there
will be at least  55-58 lamps/leds and drivers.   The circuit is simple
though
repetitive to the max.  More of a mechanical pain than electronic.  It
would
likely not fit the existing panel space.


Allison Parent
PDP-8F SN 01030


FPGA implementations of DEC processors

2018-03-21 Thread Charles Dickman via cctalk
There are enough pdp8 fpga that they have started to calll themselves
YAPDP8FPGA.

So what are the really good FPGA DEC processors?

-chuck


Re: PDP8/e programmers consoles

2018-03-21 Thread Charles Dickman via cctalk
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Doug Ingraham via cctalk
 wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:59 PM, allison via cctalk
>>  wrote:
>>
>> >> Has anyone ever seen a PDP8/i style console for the PDP8/e?

>> I know the 8/I panel won't work with an 8/e. My question was if there
>> was a special seen in the wild that had all the register values like
>> the 8/i did since the panel interface clearly supports it.
>>
>
> This would certainly be possible.  I discussed exactly this possibility a
> few years
> ago with a now departed friend.  We did a cursory search at the time and
> didn't
> turn up anything.  Of course there are lots of smart people out there who
> do a lot
> of clever things and never bother to tell the net.  My bet would be that
> nobody
> has wanted this enough to make their own omnibus front panel when there are
> still real panels and machines readily available.
>
> I guess you can be the first!  Best wishes.

Not sure I want to go there...

If you have ever looked at the DEC part number listing on bitsaver's
you will be amazed at all the specials that were done. And that was
what I was really interested in. Did DEC ever make a fancy panel that
displayed all the registers? The original designer had it in mind
since he displays a selected register at runtime during TS1 and when
the processor is stopped since that is TS1.

> --
> Doug Ingraham
> PDP-8 SN 1175

Charles Dickman
PDP-8/e SN 2630


Re: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-21 Thread Bruce Ray via cctalk

Notes on Data General product numbers:

Data General gave definitive part numbers for each product it created. 
The part numbers are usually located on small labels on each board, and 
have the format of


005-x-yy

where 005 indicates that this is a product number,
xx is the specific product, and
yy is the product revision number.

In later systems (1980s) the labels sometimes had two 005 numbers on the 
label: a "T" (Type) number and an "A" (Assembly) number.  This was done 
because a specific PCB, or "Assembly", could actually be used for 
different products depending upon what chips or PROMs were stuffed on 
the PCB.  In these cases the T 005 number would indicate what specific 
options were supported by that specific PCB.


On PCBs the 005-xx-yy part number usually exists on a label attached 
to the 15"x15" board stiffener (the side opposite the finger edge 
connectors).   This PCB label might look something like this (note that 
this is just an example):


T 005-001322-03   A 005-001367-04

In these situations the important number is the "T" (type) number rather 
than the "A" (assembly) number since it uniquely identifies the 
particular product and its capability/function.



The "107-xx-yy" type number is a circuit board "artwork" number, not 
a Data General product number. Similar to an "assembly", a single 
107-xx-yy circuit board artwork may actually be used by multiple 
005-xx-yy parts.


Therefore, the part number is the primary (PCB) reference to be used 
because a single 107-xx-yy circuit board artwork may actually be 
used by multiple 005-xx-yy parts.



Schematics are identified with an 001-xx-yy part number, and may not 
even have its corresponding "artwork" number listed on the schematic(!).



Unfortunately, I do not know of an official cross-reference between 
product numbers and artwork numbers.



-

Bruce Ray
Wild Hare Computer Systems, Inc.
Boulder, Colorado USA
b...@wildharecomputers.com

...preserving the Data General legacy: www.NovasAreForever.org

On 3/21/2018 3:37 AM, Ulrich Tagge via cctalk wrote:

Hi all,

is there somewhere a list of DG modules which includes also 3rd 
party/OEM, ... like it is available for DEC?


Would be good to know what the following is:

107-000621 02
107-000621 03/11
107-001632-00
107-0016320/02
107-000718-00
107-000181-04
107-000187-16
107-000187-15-30
AB020116-00
107-000621-03
107-001768-02
107-001768-03
107-0017680-1E
107-00053905
Zetaco SCZ-2
 >500-453-00 K
 >500-542-00 K


Many Greetings
Ulrich


R: R: AlphaServers

2018-03-21 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
No converters,

in the vms only box I've 2 original dec branded disks ( rz2cc-kb , 4gb disk )
in the other I swapped out one of them to put a normal scsi 68 hd for tru64. I 
think an Atlas, 36 or 72gb
Added a dvd and a floppy unit in each, too.

Each has standard a 2nd dec network card ( 10mb + coax ) , PBXGB-AA, 2nd dec 
scsi controller. One has a 3rd 10/100 dec network card

-Messaggio originale-
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Douglas Taylor 
via cctalk
Inviato: mercoledì 21 marzo 2018 19:17
A: Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
Oggetto: Re: R: AlphaServers

On 3/21/2018 9:58 AM, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk wrote:
> Two Digital Pws 500/au, one with vms (8.4), one with vms (8.4) and tru64 
> (latest version, supposedly)
>
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di John Blake via 
> cctalk
> Inviato: mercoledì 21 marzo 2018 10:49
> A: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Oggetto: Re: AlphaServers
>
> I've got two, the first being an 3000/400 64mb with two 146 gb SCSI-320 
> drives running on converters, one with openBSD 6 and the other with openvms 
> 8.4 running headless.  I doubt I'll ever be able to find the monitor, much 
> less the needed cables and keyboard/mouse to turn it into the desktop it was 
> supposed to be, so I've got a color turbochannel framebuffer if anyone has 
> any use for it.  The second is an alphaserver ds10l with the 617mhz EV67 
> processor, 1.5 gb ram and a radeon video card on the sole pci port, which 
> runs openvms 8.4 on one hard drive and the most recent available version of 
> unsupported debian linux on the other (I think it's sid?) as a workstation.
>
> Nekochan.net is a fair resource for hobbyist knowledge, possibly the only 
> place online where people are still futzing about with Tru64.
> comp.os.vms on usenet (or the info-vax email gateway) is where all of the 
> latest news and deep tech discussion goes on.  vcfed.org has a very healthy 
> DEC forum too.
>
>
What are the drives and converters are you using?



Re: Message Reply with quotation

2018-03-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:

It seems that YOU can reply to cctech message(s) with "quoting" the answered 
message.
How do you do that ???


First, are you doing a "REPLY", or a "create"/"Compose" new message?

If you are doing a "REPLY", then you need to either reconfigure your email 
client program to a different configuration to include message being 
replied to, OR reconfigure your computer for a different email client.


In the days when computers were REAL computers, email "client" programs 
defaulted to "quoting" and including the message being replied to.



Unfortunately, that led to lazy people quoting the message, which quoted 
the previous message, which quoted the previous message, back through 
topic drift to include massive amounts of grossly irrelevant material.


You had to scroll past the history of the world to get to the new message.

The answer is to teach the lUsers to delete the irrelevant portions of the 
past messages, and trim the quoted content back to only what was needed 
to provide context.


"teach people"??!?   canonical example of exercise in futility!

Rather than teach people, the makers of the email clients started to put 
the new content BEFORE the history of the world.  Called "top posting".
It's like a world of adolescents who don't wash their dishes, and end up 
using paper plates because every dish is dirty, and piled in the sink.
Rather than try to get people to do it right, many "modern" mail clients 
include the history of the world, but hide it from view when reading mail.

A short response, or even a "Me, too" is many KB or even MB long!

It is further complicated by the advent of "multimedia", where form is 
higher priority than content.  "Modern" email is more concerned with 
delivering the massage with "dancing kangaroos and yodelling jellyfish" 
than what the message says.  "The medium is the massage"?
In order to facilitate the latest multimedia silliness, with 
smell-o-vision, dancing kangaroos, and yodelling jellyfish, "modern" email 
clients encourage sending executable content with the email.  Including 
Trojan Horses with cryptolocker, etc.



On THIS list, we are lovers of the classics, and we cling to the concept 
that people CAN be taught to do things right, and even wash their dishes.
We never leave untrimmed quoted content (well, hardly ever), and we bottom 
post.  No attachments.  You can post a link to content that won't render 
in ASCII.  (we are, however, updated enough to be using ASCII, instead of 
Murray/Baudot)


I guess that we prefer "the good old days".  If John Titor is reading 
this, my offer still stands: I will come up with a 5100, with both APL AND 
BASIC, and set up a foundation to fund the entire project, in exchange for 
a ONE-WAY ride back 55 years.  Round-trip only warrants a contribution 
towards a 5100.



--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


Re: Andromeda Systems DC11

2018-03-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk


On 03/21/2018 03:09 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 3/21/18 10:17 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Anybody here remember the Andromeda DC11?
> Isn't that a rebadged AED WINC-05?
> Does it have a Z8000 on it?
>
>

Don't know what a WINC is but, no, no Z8000.  It uses an AMD 29X305.

bill



Re: Andromeda Systems DC11

2018-03-21 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk


On 3/21/18 10:17 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:

> Anybody here remember the Andromeda DC11? 

Isn't that a rebadged AED WINC-05?
Does it have a Z8000 on it?




Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

2018-03-21 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
Kyle, Really nice  with the matching  desk!
Lookin good!
 
Ed# - www.smecc.org 
 
In a message dated 3/21/2018 10:55:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
 I ended up going with PakMail and was not disappointed. It arrived safe and
sound yesterday, and though the cost of shipping was almost as much as the
unit itself, I felt much better about paying a little more to make sure it
arrived without damage.

Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/xW480

Looking forward to getting it going!

Thanks for the suggestions,

Kyle


Re: R: AlphaServers

2018-03-21 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk

On 3/21/2018 9:58 AM, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk wrote:

Two Digital Pws 500/au, one with vms (8.4), one with vms (8.4) and tru64 
(latest version, supposedly)

-Messaggio originale-
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di John Blake via 
cctalk
Inviato: mercoledì 21 marzo 2018 10:49
A: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Oggetto: Re: AlphaServers

I've got two, the first being an 3000/400 64mb with two 146 gb SCSI-320 drives 
running on converters, one with openBSD 6 and the other with openvms 8.4 
running headless.  I doubt I'll ever be able to find the monitor, much less the 
needed cables and keyboard/mouse to turn it into the desktop it was supposed to 
be, so I've got a color turbochannel framebuffer if anyone has any use for it.  
The second is an alphaserver ds10l with the 617mhz EV67 processor, 1.5 gb ram 
and a radeon video card on the sole pci port, which runs openvms 8.4 on one 
hard drive and the most recent available version of unsupported debian linux on 
the other (I think it's sid?) as a workstation.

Nekochan.net is a fair resource for hobbyist knowledge, possibly the only place 
online where people are still futzing about with Tru64.
comp.os.vms on usenet (or the info-vax email gateway) is where all of the 
latest news and deep tech discussion goes on.  vcfed.org has a very healthy DEC 
forum too.



What are the drives and converters are you using?



Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

2018-03-21 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
I have used PakMail before, no complaints
 -pete

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I ended up going with PakMail and was not disappointed. It arrived safe and
> sound yesterday, and though the cost of shipping was almost as much as the
> unit itself, I felt much better about paying a little more to make sure it
> arrived without damage.
>
> Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/xW480
>
> Looking forward to getting it going!
>
> Thanks for the suggestions,
>
> Kyle
>
>


Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

2018-03-21 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
I ended up going with PakMail and was not disappointed. It arrived safe and
sound yesterday, and though the cost of shipping was almost as much as the
unit itself, I felt much better about paying a little more to make sure it
arrived without damage.

Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/xW480

Looking forward to getting it going!

Thanks for the suggestions,

Kyle


Andromeda Systems DC11

2018-03-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk

I asked this on USENET, I don't suppose it would hurt to ask here as well.


Anybody here remember the Andromeda DC11? More importantly, does
anyone still have Andromeda stuff laying around?

The module used something called "Personality Cards" which were
actually just connection adapters for different kinds of disks.
I am trying to find a couple (I'd be happy with one) WPC8F adapters
for connecting 8" disks to my modules.  Any chance anyone has these
taking up space?  Of course, I would also take other kinds of
adapters, well, except for the WPC5FA.  That's for the RX50 and
even I don't have any more of them left.


bill




R: AlphaServers

2018-03-21 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
Two Digital Pws 500/au, one with vms (8.4), one with vms (8.4) and tru64 
(latest version, supposedly)

-Messaggio originale-
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di John Blake via 
cctalk
Inviato: mercoledì 21 marzo 2018 10:49
A: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Oggetto: Re: AlphaServers

I've got two, the first being an 3000/400 64mb with two 146 gb SCSI-320 drives 
running on converters, one with openBSD 6 and the other with openvms 8.4 
running headless.  I doubt I'll ever be able to find the monitor, much less the 
needed cables and keyboard/mouse to turn it into the desktop it was supposed to 
be, so I've got a color turbochannel framebuffer if anyone has any use for it.  
The second is an alphaserver ds10l with the 617mhz EV67 processor, 1.5 gb ram 
and a radeon video card on the sole pci port, which runs openvms 8.4 on one 
hard drive and the most recent available version of unsupported debian linux on 
the other (I think it's sid?) as a workstation.

Nekochan.net is a fair resource for hobbyist knowledge, possibly the only place 
online where people are still futzing about with Tru64. 
comp.os.vms on usenet (or the info-vax email gateway) is where all of the 
latest news and deep tech discussion goes on.  vcfed.org has a very healthy DEC 
forum too.




Re: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-21 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 3/21/2018 4:37 AM, Ulrich Tagge via cctech wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> is there somewhere a list of DG modules which includes also 3rd
> party/OEM, ... like it is available for DEC?
> 
> Would be good to know what the following is:
> 
> 107-000621 02
> 107-000621 03/11
> 107-001632-00
> 107-0016320/02
> 107-000718-00
> 107-000181-04
> 107-000187-16
> 107-000187-15-30
> AB020116-00
> 107-000621-03
> 107-001768-02
> 107-001768-03
> 107-0017680-1E
> 107-00053905
> Zetaco SCZ-2
>>500-453-00 K
>>500-542-00 K
> 
> 
> Many Greetings
> Ulrich
> 

I have some DG spare parts catalogs, but the numbers in them are all the
005- part numbers, not the 107- board numbers.  To translate them, one
would have to look through sets of drawings.  So, if your boards have
the 005- number, I might be able to help you out.

For the most part, the numbers you have listed are newer than the boards
I have documented because I actually have them (I go up to 107-001410).

I have a 107-000187 and I also have it documented as a disk controller.

Your list has some duplication.  For example, all the numbers that start
out 107-001768 are for the same kind of board - just different
revisions.  Same for 107-000187, 107-001632 and 107-000621.

JRJ


RE: Message Reply with quotation

2018-03-21 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
In Outlook, this behavior is controlled using:  Options : Mail : Replies and
forwards

-Original Message-
From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pontus
Pihlgren via cctech
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:10 AM
To: GerardCJAT; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Cc: cct...@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Message Reply with quotation

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:46:23AM +0100, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
> Hello Guys,
> 
> It seems that YOU can reply to cctech message(s) with "quoting" the 
> answered message.
> 
> How do you do that ???

My mail client does it automatically for me. When I hit reply I get the 
message I reply to with the character ">" placed in front of each line.

It looks like you are using Outlook 6 to send mails and I don't know if 
quoting can be accomplished in an easy way. Perhaps copy and add 
">" manually.

/P



Re: Message Reply with quotation

2018-03-21 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
It is usually a setting in your email client - include or not include
original (more accurately, message one is replying to). Depends on
your client. Most IMAP access sysems do it automagically unless you
change the setting
bb

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
 wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:46:23AM +0100, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
>> Hello Guys,
>>
>> It seems that YOU can reply to cctech message(s) with "quoting" the
>> answered message.
>>
>> How do you do that ???
>
> My mail client does it automatically for me. When I hit reply I get the
> message I reply to with the character ">" placed in front of each line.
>
> It looks like you are using Outlook 6 to send mails and I don't know if
> quoting can be accomplished in an easy way. Perhaps copy and add
> ">" manually.
>
> /P


RE: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-21 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
107-000187-16  = "DISK CARTRIDGE CONTROL DGC NOVA"

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ulrich Tagge 
via cctalk
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:37 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

Hi all,

is there somewhere a list of DG modules which includes also 3rd 
party/OEM, ... like it is available for DEC?

Would be good to know what the following is:

107-000621 02
107-000621 03/11
107-001632-00
107-0016320/02
107-000718-00
107-000181-04
107-000187-16
107-000187-15-30
AB020116-00
107-000621-03
107-001768-02
107-001768-03
107-0017680-1E
107-00053905
Zetaco SCZ-2
 >500-453-00 K
 >500-542-00 K


Many Greetings
Ulrich



Re: Message Reply with quotation

2018-03-21 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:46:23AM +0100, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
> Hello Guys,
> 
> It seems that YOU can reply to cctech message(s) with "quoting" the 
> answered message.
> 
> How do you do that ???

My mail client does it automatically for me. When I hit reply I get the 
message I reply to with the character ">" placed in front of each line.

It looks like you are using Outlook 6 to send mails and I don't know if 
quoting can be accomplished in an easy way. Perhaps copy and add 
">" manually.

/P


Re: AlphaServers

2018-03-21 Thread John Blake via cctalk
I've got two, the first being an 3000/400 64mb with two 146 gb SCSI-320
drives running on converters, one with openBSD 6 and the other with
openvms 8.4 running headless.  I doubt I'll ever be able to find the
monitor, much less the needed cables and keyboard/mouse to turn it into
the desktop it was supposed to be, so I've got a color turbochannel
framebuffer if anyone has any use for it.  The second is an alphaserver
ds10l with the 617mhz EV67 processor, 1.5 gb ram and a radeon video card
on the sole pci port, which runs openvms 8.4 on one hard drive and the
most recent available version of unsupported debian linux on the other
(I think it's sid?) as a workstation.

Nekochan.net is a fair resource for hobbyist knowledge, possibly the
only place online where people are still futzing about with Tru64. 
comp.os.vms on usenet (or the info-vax email gateway) is where all of
the latest news and deep tech discussion goes on.  vcfed.org has a very
healthy DEC forum too.




Message Reply with quotation

2018-03-21 Thread GerardCJAT via cctalk
Hello Guys,

It seems that YOU can reply to cctech message(s) with "quoting" the answered 
message.

How do you do that ???

Thanks for your help.  Gerard


DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-21 Thread Ulrich Tagge via cctalk

Hi all,

is there somewhere a list of DG modules which includes also 3rd 
party/OEM, ... like it is available for DEC?


Would be good to know what the following is:

107-000621 02
107-000621 03/11
107-001632-00
107-0016320/02
107-000718-00
107-000181-04
107-000187-16
107-000187-15-30
AB020116-00
107-000621-03
107-001768-02
107-001768-03
107-0017680-1E
107-00053905
Zetaco SCZ-2
>500-453-00 K
>500-542-00 K


Many Greetings
Ulrich


Quad density Pertec

2018-03-21 Thread GerardCJAT via cctalk
Reply to :I note that the Kennedy incremental 7 inch reel drive in the NASA 
flight
case hasn't attracted a lot of interest.

That sample tape that I got, however does verify that the parity track
on this telemetry stuff is unused.   So that explains the 8 data inputs
with no parity on the NASA model.

--ChuckWell, at least ONE person was interested ... Me  BUT the vendor does 
not offerinternational shipping ( to France ), and does not care answering mail 
 :-(Though tape transport is already "packed"  ;-)Gerard


Vintage computer event - Melbourne Australia - this Sat 24 March

2018-03-21 Thread Malcolm via cctalk
Melbourne's first Mini Vintage Computer Faire

Various vintage microcomputers will be on display in Mooroolbark this
weekend

More details are available here ->
https://www.facebook.com/events/1935562660092538/ 

The event runs from 10am to 4pm this Saturday (24 March 2018) and is at:

Mooroolbark Terrace Shopping Centre
66 Brice Avenue, Mooroolbark 3138   

Come along and enjoy (subject to any last-minute changes!):

Replica Apple I
Microbees
TRS-80s
Dick Smith Super 80
PDP-8/f with ASR33 Teletype
Original Space Invader machine
.  and much, much more.

I am not an organiser, but will be there as an exhibitor.

If you are within driving distance, please come along and join in.  Your
support will help to encourage a larger event next year!

 

Malcolm.

 



LSP10-NW (printer interface for KI10?)

2018-03-21 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
I have received this for a retired DEC service engineer:

https://i.imgur.com/pJkcsHe.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/zwpSbrg.jpg

According to the label it is a LSP10-NW made by DEC CSS. Previous owner
claims it is for a KI10. I don't really know.

I have no real use for it except for the flip-chips.

Anyone has a need for such a thing or just the backplane?

/Mattis


DEC VR150 montior

2018-03-21 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
Does anyone have a schematic for this DEC monitor?  I have one that has 
good video but doesn't seem to want to respond to video input.