IBM AS/400 (iSeries) Available - Free - Kansas City

[Philip Leonard via cctalk]

I have 4 AS/400s free to a good home.

One is an S20, one is an 820, and 2 are 730.  I also have several extra various 
cards, CRT consoles, cables, etc. for them.

Please come get these as I have moved to a much smaller house and there is just 
no room for them.

Private emails to leo42i[at]seidkr[dot]com

Thanks!

Philip

Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

[Grant Taylor via cctalk]

On 05/15/2018 02:38 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote:
I finally gave up and acquired a PCI based RS/6000 that I’ll install 
AIX on and have an R/390.  :-)  I haven’t had the time yet to make any 
progress on it.


Props for the R/390.  I've not heard mention of them in quite a while.



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Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

[Adam Thornton via cctalk]

> On May 14, 2018, at 11:29 PM, Dave Wade  wrote:
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Adam Thornton
>> via cctalk
>> Sent: 15 May 2018 03:03
>> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
>> Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
>> 
>> I Frankensteined a P/390 together out of a P/325 server and the PCI P/390
>> card back in the day.
>> 
> 
> I am told the PCI card is rather choosy about which servers it will run in. 
> The system came with most of a P330 as well, but no case.


It is pretty picky.  It did not run in a whitebox PC I had at the time, but the 
PC Server 325 was close enough to its expected host that it was happy.  I would 
guess that any of the IBM x86 server machines from the right general era would 
work.

That machine now lives at the Living Computer Museum in Seattle, although I do 
not know if they have it available for use.

> 
> 
> It’s the RAID card that’s the problem, and it seems to have always been 
> temperamental. Did you use RAID in your P/325?


I don’t think I did.  Have you tried just putting a different (OS/2-supported) 
disk controller in and just not doing RAID?

> 
>> 
>> I used mine to run VM/CMS and Linux (under VM) quite well.
>> 
> 
> I was thinking of trying Linux. I assume you ran Debian? 


Indeed I did, although also SLES.  I assume you found my NASPA article on 
Debian on 390 from 2004?

Adam

Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

[Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk]

> On May 15, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That’s, in effect, what I did. Whilst there were Microchannel IDE Controllers 
> I have never seen one. There are no IDE interfaces on the "Planar" so every 
> thing must be on the MCA bus.
> So I bought a BusLogic BT646 SCSI card on E-Bay. I also bought an Adaptec 
> card as a spare.  I think I struck lucky with the BT646. It is a simple 
> SCSI/2 card, no raid but it does have a BIOS with support for two bootable 
> drives and a >4GB drive option.
> OS/2 has drivers for it so it works out of the box. The OS/2 boot disks find 
> the drive and install the proper drivers. 
> To compensate for the slower "narrow" drives I bought a SCSI2SD card that 
> puts an SD card on the bus. OS/2 just sees it as a up two four drives 
> depending on how I configure it. At present I have two 4gb drives. The card 
> in it is 32gb so I can add 2 x 12gb drives or 1 x 24gb or some other mix. The 
> CD ROM sites on the same bus. I haven't tried the tape drive yet..
> 

Some time ago I acquired a PCI P/390 card (along with the various LIC files).  
I went down the same path as you to build a P/390 system with OS/2 but I kept 
running into problems with OS/2 versions and supported hardware.

I finally gave up and acquired a PCI based RS/6000 that I’ll install AIX on and 
have an R/390.  ;-)  I haven’t had the time yet to make any progress on it.

But it’s good to know that you’ve managed to do this if I decide to go back and 
attempt the PC route again.

TTFN - Guy

RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

[Dave Wade via cctalk]

> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Thornton 
> Sent: 15 May 2018 16:35
> To: Dave Wade ; cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
> 
> 
> 
> > On May 14, 2018, at 11:29 PM, Dave Wade 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Adam
> >> Thornton via cctalk
> >> Sent: 15 May 2018 03:03
> >> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> >> Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
> >>
> >> I Frankensteined a P/390 together out of a P/325 server and the PCI
> >> P/390 card back in the day.
> >>
> >
> > I am told the PCI card is rather choosy about which servers it will run in. 
> > The
> system came with most of a P330 as well, but no case.
> 
> 
> It is pretty picky.  It did not run in a whitebox PC I had at the time, but 
> the PC
> Server 325 was close enough to its expected host that it was happy.  I would
> guess that any of the IBM x86 server machines from the right general era
> would work.
> 
> That machine now lives at the Living Computer Museum in Seattle, although I
> do not know if they have it available for use.
> 

OK I got a PCI P390 card in the bundle of spares but have nothing PCI server 
style to run it in.
Where I worked we binned loads of X330's which might have been usable...

> >
> >
> > It’s the RAID card that’s the problem, and it seems to have always been
> temperamental. Did you use RAID in your P/325?
> 
> 
> I don’t think I did.  Have you tried just putting a different (OS/2-supported)
> disk controller in and just not doing RAID?
> 

That’s, in effect, what I did. Whilst there were Microchannel IDE Controllers I 
have never seen one. There are no IDE interfaces on the "Planar" so every thing 
must be on the MCA bus.
So I bought a BusLogic BT646 SCSI card on E-Bay. I also bought an Adaptec card 
as a spare.  I think I struck lucky with the BT646. It is a simple SCSI/2 card, 
no raid but it does have a BIOS with support for two bootable drives and a >4GB 
drive option.
OS/2 has drivers for it so it works out of the box. The OS/2 boot disks find 
the drive and install the proper drivers. 
To compensate for the slower "narrow" drives I bought a SCSI2SD card that puts 
an SD card on the bus. OS/2 just sees it as a up two four drives depending on 
how I configure it. At present I have two 4gb drives. The card in it is 32gb so 
I can add 2 x 12gb drives or 1 x 24gb or some other mix. The CD ROM sites on 
the same bus. I haven't tried the tape drive yet..

> >
> >>
> >> I used mine to run VM/CMS and Linux (under VM) quite well.
> >>
> >
> > I was thinking of trying Linux. I assume you ran Debian?
> 
> 
> Indeed I did, although also SLES.  I assume you found my NASPA article on
> Debian on 390 from 2004?
> 

I think that’s the one...


> Adam
> 
> 

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RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 - now running

[Dave Wade via cctalk]

> -Original Message-
> From: Benjamin Huntsman 
> Sent: 15 May 2018 00:32
> To: Dave Wade ; General Discussion: On-Topic
> and Off-Topic Posts 
> Subject: Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 - now running
> 
> I seem to recall having to install some vram chips on my P/390 to get
> 1024x768 resolution, but I think that was on my PC Server 330...

It’s a separate display card. Real pain. The server came with a dead Cirrus 
Logic card but it now has an "IBM Display Adaptor/A" (I think) which should do 
1024x768x256 colors. Must check.

> 
> I’m glad you got it working!  That is awesome!  Did you get networking
> functional?
> 

Not through to VM. That’s next (after sorting the display)

> Have fun!
> 
> -Ben
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 14, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk 
> wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Just to say I did end up doing a re-install of OS/2 on a smaller drive, 
> > which
> took most of today, but the P390 software is now installed and I have loaded
> VM/CMS and IPL'd a simple 3-pack system copied from Hercules. The
> readme that comes with the P/390 V2.5 software explains how to set up the
> systems so PCOMMS can talk to it. I still don't have the screen resolution
> working at 1024 x 768 which the manual says it should. Oh and PMVNC also
> runs so I can remote control the beast. It was all a bit of a slog, mostly
> because OS/2 is a bit of a slog. The P/390 was the easy part.
> >
> > Thanks to all who helped,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >

RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

[Dave Wade via cctalk]

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Adam Thornton
> via cctalk
> Sent: 15 May 2018 03:03
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
> 
> I Frankensteined a P/390 together out of a P/325 server and the PCI P/390
> card back in the day.
> 

I am told the PCI card is rather choosy about which servers it will run in. The 
system came with most of a P330 as well, but no case.

> I assume you do have the LIC for the P/390 card, without which you’re dead
> in the water.
> 

The latest version of the PC support tools simply load it from the P390 
Advanced Diagnostics Disk.  
This was the bit I was worried about but it wasn't a problem at all.

> At least the PCI model wasn’t picky about the disks it used.  And I’m pretty
> sure it’ll work with whatever the final Warp Server release was (4, maybe?)
> by which time the native TCP/IP support was a lot better.  It was a nice 
> little
> machine for its day, although Hercules is now many times its speed on
> modern hardware.

It’s the RAID card that’s the problem, and it seems to have always been 
temperamental. Did you use RAID in your P/325?


> 
> I used mine to run VM/CMS and Linux (under VM) quite well.
> 

I was thinking of trying Linux. I assume you ran Debian? 

> Adam

Dave