Re: IBM junk

[Paul Anderson via cctalk]

Hi Mike,

I  figured you would see those.

Paul, 21ST Air Defense Command

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018, Donald via cctalk wrote:
>
> Collected stuff for over 10 years.  Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400.  It
>> had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.
>>
>
>Did you get rid of the SAGE pluggable units, as well?
>
> JUNK283 - JUNK285
>
>And the display scope parts?
>
> JUNK420
>
>I used to work on SAGE, and have an interest in parts and pieces.
>
>
> Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
> Old Technology  http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
>

Re: IBM junk

[cctalk via cctalk]

Sorry, I know nothing about the panel on the left.

My items were in California.  I will check with recipient to see if I can 
mention them.

Re: IBM junk

[Ed Sharpe via cctalk]

gave it away or  sold it?


and where was it  geographically?
 
In a message dated 6/22/2018 9:33:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
4th sentence.


Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.

Re: IBM junk https://www.smecc.org/wpe_files/wpe45.jpg logic trainer ibm on left what can you tell me about it!?

[Ed Sharpe via cctalk]

Re: IBM junk https://www.smecc.org/wpe_files/wpe45.jpg logic trainer ibm on 
left what can you tell me about it!?  thanks  ed sharpe
 
 



In a message dated 6/22/2018 8:50:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
On Fri, 22 Jun 2018, Donald via cctalk wrote:


> Collected stuff for over 10 years. Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400. It
> had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.

 Did you get rid of the SAGE pluggable units, as well?

 JUNK283 - JUNK285

 And the display scope parts?

 JUNK420

 I used to work on SAGE, and have an interest in parts and pieces.


Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

Re: IBM junk

[cctalk via cctalk]

4th sentence.

Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.

Re: IBM junk

[Peter Cetinski via cctalk]

That’s a Computer Museum Starter Kit.  Wow.

Re: IBM junk

[Mike Loewen via cctalk]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018, Donald via cctalk wrote:


Collected stuff for over 10 years.  Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400.  It
had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.


   Did you get rid of the SAGE pluggable units, as well?

JUNK283 - JUNK285

   And the display scope parts?

JUNK420

   I used to work on SAGE, and have an interest in parts and pieces.


Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology  http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

Re: IBM junk

[cctalk via cctalk]

I believe the 1130 used the 2315

Re: IBM junk

[Steve Malikoff via cctalk]

> Collected stuff for over 10 years.  Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400.  It
> had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.
>
> 115 boxes of manuals and documents.
> 26 boxes of coffee mugs
> 73 703 boxes of stuff.
> 106 loose big items.
>
> Filled the floor space of a 26' truck.
>
> It can be viewed at http://www.ibmjunkman.com/junk/
>
> Best viewed on a PC with decent speed connection.
>
> Sample stuff: 360 Mod 20 panel, mod 30 panel, mod 65 panel, s/3 panel. Disk
> pack and HDA up the ying yang.3850 data carts, 2321 data cell, 7340
> Hypertape cartridge, a Russian equivalent, desktop chachki (tchotchke), 360
> mod 70 desktop model used in 1964 World's Fair,  etc, etc.


A nice collection of ephemera. I've been very very slowly trying to rebuild my 
dad's CE toolkit
from his 650 and 360 days and your photos show some tools and bits I've yet to 
collect, so thank
you for that.

Steve.

Re: IBM junk

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Jun 22, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Donald via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> Collected stuff for over 10 years.  Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400.  It
> had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.
> 
> 115 boxes of manuals and documents.
> 26 boxes of coffee mugs
> 73 703 boxes of stuff.
> 106 loose big items.
> 
> Filled the floor space of a 26' truck.
> 
> It can be viewed at http://www.ibmjunkman.com/junk/

Interesting.  RK05 style packs, I remember those from the 360 model 44.  Did 
anything else from IBM use those?

paul

Re: IBM junk

[Ed Sharpe via cctalk]

absolutely amazing!
  ed#

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On Friday, June 22, 2018 Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk  
wrote:
Wow that was a heck of a collection.

Wish I had known about it!





From: cctalk  on behalf of Bill Degnan via 
cctalk 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 3:51 PM
To: cct...@emailtoilet.com; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM junk

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 6:34 PM Donald via cctalk 
wrote:

> Collected stuff for over 10 years. Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400. It
> had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.
>
> 115 boxes of manuals and documents.
> 26 boxes of coffee mugs
> 73 703 boxes of stuff.
> 106 loose big items.
>
> Filled the floor space of a 26' truck.
>
> It can be viewed at http://www.ibmjunkman.com/junk/
IBM junk
www.ibmjunkman.com
IBM junk



>
> Best viewed on a PC with decent speed connection.
>
> Sample stuff: 360 Mod 20 panel, mod 30 panel, mod 65 panel, s/3 panel. Disk
> pack and HDA up the ying yang. 3850 data carts, 2321 data cell, 7340
> Hypertape cartridge, a Russian equivalent, desktop chachki (tchotchke), 360
> mod 70 desktop model used in 1964 World's Fair, etc, etc.
>
>
um. Yah that must have taken all of .4 seconds to find someone who would
have wanted it all.

Re: IBM junk

[Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk]

Wow that was a heck of a collection.

Wish I had known about it!





From: cctalk  on behalf of Bill Degnan via 
cctalk 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 3:51 PM
To: cct...@emailtoilet.com; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM junk

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 6:34 PM Donald via cctalk 
wrote:

> Collected stuff for over 10 years.  Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400.  It
> had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.
>
> 115 boxes of manuals and documents.
> 26 boxes of coffee mugs
> 73 703 boxes of stuff.
> 106 loose big items.
>
> Filled the floor space of a 26' truck.
>
> It can be viewed at http://www.ibmjunkman.com/junk/
IBM junk
www.ibmjunkman.com
IBM junk



>
> Best viewed on a PC with decent speed connection.
>
> Sample stuff: 360 Mod 20 panel, mod 30 panel, mod 65 panel, s/3 panel. Disk
> pack and HDA up the ying yang.3850 data carts, 2321 data cell, 7340
> Hypertape cartridge, a Russian equivalent, desktop chachki (tchotchke), 360
> mod 70 desktop model used in 1964 World's Fair,  etc, etc.
>
>
um.  Yah that must have taken all of .4 seconds to find someone who would
have wanted it all.

Re: IBM junk

[Donald via cctalk]

Well, not really.  

 

CHM only wants my punched card collection (4000+ cards) which they are
getting when I croak.  Did not want the other stuff.

Livingcomputers only interested in miniatures.

I will swear I sent a note to Al Kossow about manuals. No reply.

 

Re: IBM junk

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 6:34 PM Donald via cctalk 
wrote:

> Collected stuff for over 10 years.  Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400.  It
> had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.
>
> 115 boxes of manuals and documents.
> 26 boxes of coffee mugs
> 73 703 boxes of stuff.
> 106 loose big items.
>
> Filled the floor space of a 26' truck.
>
> It can be viewed at http://www.ibmjunkman.com/junk/
>
> Best viewed on a PC with decent speed connection.
>
> Sample stuff: 360 Mod 20 panel, mod 30 panel, mod 65 panel, s/3 panel. Disk
> pack and HDA up the ying yang.3850 data carts, 2321 data cell, 7340
> Hypertape cartridge, a Russian equivalent, desktop chachki (tchotchke), 360
> mod 70 desktop model used in 1964 World's Fair,  etc, etc.
>
>
um.  Yah that must have taken all of .4 seconds to find someone who would
have wanted it all.

IBM junk

[Donald via cctalk]

Collected stuff for over 10 years.  Moving from 2300 sq. ft. to 1400.  It
had to go. Praise the computer gods I found someone that wanted it all.

115 boxes of manuals and documents.
26 boxes of coffee mugs
73 703 boxes of stuff.
106 loose big items.

Filled the floor space of a 26' truck.

It can be viewed at http://www.ibmjunkman.com/junk/

Best viewed on a PC with decent speed connection.

Sample stuff: 360 Mod 20 panel, mod 30 panel, mod 65 panel, s/3 panel. Disk
pack and HDA up the ying yang.3850 data carts, 2321 data cell, 7340
Hypertape cartridge, a Russian equivalent, desktop chachki (tchotchke), 360
mod 70 desktop model used in 1964 World's Fair,  etc, etc.

Re: DEC Mouse replacement

[Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk]

On Fri, 2018-05-04 08:13:05 +0100, mark--- via cctalk  
wrote:
> The Linux Kernel has support for DEC VSXXX mouse (as well as LK keyboards), 
> the opposite of what you are interested in.
> So the conversion from DEC protocol is well documented.
> It would be fairly straightforward with a microcontroller to implement the 
> reverse.
> 
> See: https://code.woboq.org/linux/linux/drivers/input/mouse/vsxxxaa.c.html

Adding another reply: I wouldn't recommend to use the driver source
code as a starting point, but rather fetch DEC's specs about the two
mice (VSXXX-AA and VSXXX-GA) and their tablet (VSXXX-AB), which are
all described in the "VCB02 Video Subsystem Technical Manual",
available here:

https://www.vt100.net/manx/details?pn=EK-104AA-TM-001;id=21;cp=1

MfG, JBG

-- 

Re: DEC Mouse replacement

[Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk]

On Fri, 2018-05-04 08:13:05 +0100, mark--- via cctalk  
wrote:
> The Linux Kernel has support for DEC VSXXX mouse (as well as LK keyboards), 
> the opposite of what you are interested in.
> So the conversion from DEC protocol is well documented.
> It would be fairly straightforward with a microcontroller to implement the 
> reverse.
> 
> See: https://code.woboq.org/linux/linux/drivers/input/mouse/vsxxxaa.c.html

I think that it should be quite straight-forward to use an Arduino to
mimic a VSXXX-AA mouse. Some time ago, somebody even contacted me with
exactly this in mind, and I remember he found public code already
available to implement exactly what you're looking for.

 *searching*

https://bitbucket.org/tinyscsi/decmouse/src/fc73c57dce5926ac1ab9f0958ba82cf1e8cbe88e/DECMouse.ino?at=master=file-view-default

Maybe this'll (at least) help you implementing something with an
Arduino, or even solve your issue completely.

  Reading the source, the PS/2 mouse is attached to two GPIO pins in
that sketch (#5 for data, #6 for clock), and the VAXstation will be
connected to Arduino's serial port. (Keep in mind that you'll want do
have a level shifter in between, some MAX232 variant.)

MfG, JBG

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Re: More tapes - This time all Tektronix 405x series

[Monty McGraw via cctalk]

Randy,

I had the same issue.  I have an older NI GPIB to serial adapter, and since
the Tektronix protocol was so customized - I couldn't get it to recover the
data either.

Right now I'm experimenting with a different PC serial program - which is
designed to transfer data from embedded systems like Arduino.

I would like to capture the data including the control characters without
having to convert them.

This effort is helping me get a deeper understanding of what is going on,
so I can get my GPIB flash drive designed properly.

Monty

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Randy Dawson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi Pete,
>
>
> Send them to  Monty - my 4051 is crippled with no serial port.  I
> currently have no way to get data in and out of this, except via Micheal's
> RAMSTORE modules.
>
>
> Monty, I also looked at emulating the tape drive, or the floppy disk over
> GPIB, that would be great, have the PC with a NI USB dongle.
>
> I could not figure out how to make the National Instruments dongle act
> like a slave, its normally the master.
>
>
> Randy
>
>
> 
> From: cctalk  on behalf of Pete Lancashire
> via cctalk 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:06 AM
> To: mmcgra...@gmail.com; General
> Subject: Re: More tapes - This time all Tektronix 405x series
>
> a few months ago i had about 20 4051/4052 tapes. if i still do i can send
> them to you
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:53 AM Monty McGraw via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > I was successfull at capturing all the files from a 4051 Graphics T1 tape
> > last weekend.
> >
> > Here is the link to a couple of photos of the process:
> >
> > Capturing Tektronix 4051 Graphics T1 tape files to laptop
> > 
> >
> > First I replaced the disintegrated drive belt with one from a NOS 3M
> DC6250
> > cartridge.
> >
> > I used my 4051 to PC serial transfer program on my recently repaired and
> > upgraded 4054A.
> >
> > I set the comm speed of the 4054 serial interface to the maximum 9600
> baud,
> > but as it is 7-bit, my program changes all 32 Tektronix control
> characters
> > to "~X~" where X is the ASCII character corresponding to that control
> > character.
> >
> > This way I don't lose any of the Tektronix 405x text formatting in the
> > transfer.
> >
> > I was using ExtraPutty on the laptop to capture the program text strings,
> > then copied the statements into Notepad++ and saved each file.
> >
> > I am also working on a Tektronix 4051/52/54 compatible GPIB MicroSD flash
> > drive that will emulate the Tektronix 4924 tape drive - for all of us
> with
> > these computers to use - since both the tapes and drives are very
> > problematic after all these years.
> >
> > This flash drive contains an Arduino with my code - based on the GPIB
> > flowcharts and info in a 4051 and 4052 GPIB manual.
> >
> > You will be able to use the existing 405x program statements with @Y for
> > the drive GPIB address - since I don't know how to write a ROMPACK for
> any
> > of the series :)
> >
> > I plan to organize the different captured tapes in directories on the
> flash
> > - and that may mean using a non-4924 GPIB secondary address for that
> > command.  It also likely means I need to change any tape commands in each
> > program to use the flash drive GPIB address.
> >
> > That's why I wanted to capture one of the Tektronix tapes with a menu -
> is
> > to ensure I could get those files to work on my flash drive design.
> >
> > Monty McGraw
> >
> >
>

Re: New Listings for Sellam's VWoCW - June 20, 2018

[Carlo Pisani via cctalk]

>It took me to a page that immediately made me feel
> my computer was imminently about to receive some nefarious code.  I

have you ever heard about GPDR?
the page simply informs you about that