Re: HP scope mailing list

2018-08-18 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Ah, excellent, groups.io is so much better.
Marc

> On Aug 17, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-08-17 12:40 AM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote:
>> +1 on the hp_agilent Yahoo group
> 
> 
> Which at this very moment is MOVING to groups.io:
> 
>  https://groups.io/g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment
> 
> Also highly recommended is the TekScopes list if you own/repair any Tek
> gear:
> 
>  https://groups.io/g/TekScopes/topics
> 
> --Toby
> 
> 
>> Marc
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2018, at 10:22 PM, Paul Birkel via cctalk 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try: hp_agilent_equipm...@yahoogroups.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Charles 
>>> Dickman via cctalk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 8:56 PM
>>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>>> Subject: HP scope mailing list
>>> 
>>> Is there an HP scope and instrument mailing list?
>>> 
>>> I have an HP 181A storage scope that I would like to get working again.
>>> 
>>> -chuck
>>> 
>> 
> 


Re: Fairly Extensive Singer/Friden "System Ten" Computer System for Rescue

2018-08-18 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk

On 08/18/2018 01:24 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:

I did finally make contact with the system owner.  The case isn't
quite as urgent as originally depicted - we have a couple months to
work on the rescue.  I'm in touch with a museum that has the resources
to transport and care for it.  Hoping this ends in a triumphant rescue
gallery for all to see.


Excellent - good news, and thank you :-)

Jules


Re: QED 933 (11/93 clone) and mystery SCSI board

2018-08-18 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Paul Anderson via cctalk
 wrote:
> I just found a QED 933. I've had Memtec boards before, but I don't remember
> anything about this one.
>

A few people bought QED-993 boards from eBay in the last few years.
For example 200688358479 or
200600166676. They are set up to use the standard 11/93 console panel,
although only 4 async ports are implemented, not 8.

While they may be faster than a real J11 CPU based board, they have
compatibility issues. The main issue is complete lack of floating
point support. I was unable to get either 2.11BSD or RSTS/E 10.1 to
run on a QED-993. Trying to build the 2.11BSD kernel without using
floating point instructions didn't help.

Maybe it is fast for running RT-11. I lost interest and never bothered
giving that a try.


Re: Fairly Extensive Singer/Friden "System Ten" Computer System for Rescue

2018-08-18 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:32 AM Jules Richardson via cctalk
 wrote:
> Any update on this - has anyone picked up the system, or are there plans to
> do so? Folks over at TNMoC are keen to know that it's been saved and is off
> to a good home (sadly it's a bit unwieldy to arrange for it to be shipped
> back to the UK!)

I did finally make contact with the system owner.  The case isn't
quite as urgent as originally depicted - we have a couple months to
work on the rescue.  I'm in touch with a museum that has the resources
to transport and care for it.  Hoping this ends in a triumphant rescue
gallery for all to see.

-j


Re: Interesting blog post on Zuse

2018-08-18 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-08-18 5:30 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Liam Proven via
>> cctalk
>> Sent: 18 August 2018 09:15
>> To: Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
>> Subject: Interesting blog post on Zuse
>>
>> Konrad Zuse, Alan Turing, and the World’s First Computer Startup POSTED
>> ON OCTOBER 18, 2013 · POSTED IN STARTUPS
>> 
>>
>>
>> http://www.nathanzeldes.com/blog/2013/10/konrad-zuse-alan-turing-
>> worlds-first-computer-startup/
>>
> 
> It’s a common thing. Folks want Turing to be involved in all computers, but 
> in fact even the ACE which he designed wasn't completed until he left the 
> National Physical Laboratory
> ... but the design was still significantly faster than other computers of the 
> time, and by the time he died he was working on the mathematics of biology 
> and morphogenesis using, using not designing computers, and complaining he 
> couldn't get enough time on the Manchester Mk1. He was really interested in 
> computers as learning and intelligent devices. He insisted the Manchester Mk1 
> could generate random numbers. I wonder what he would have made of the self 
> driving car


Given his reputed intelligence I'd expect him to ask, "*what* self
driving car?"

> 
> Dave
> 
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my smartphone. Please pardon brevity & typos.
> 
> 



Re: Fairly Extensive Singer/Friden "System Ten" Computer System for Rescue

2018-08-18 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk

On 08/08/2018 09:13 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:

Through my Old Calculator Museum website, I have been contacted by a
gentleman that has a fairly substantial Singer/Friden
System 10 that is located in a building that the business wants to clear
out.


All,

Any update on this - has anyone picked up the system, or are there plans to 
do so? Folks over at TNMoC are keen to know that it's been saved and is off 
to a good home (sadly it's a bit unwieldy to arrange for it to be shipped 
back to the UK!)


cheers,

Jules


RE: Interesting blog post on Zuse

2018-08-18 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Liam Proven via
> cctalk
> Sent: 18 August 2018 09:15
> To: Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
> Subject: Interesting blog post on Zuse
> 
> Konrad Zuse, Alan Turing, and the World’s First Computer Startup POSTED
> ON OCTOBER 18, 2013 · POSTED IN STARTUPS
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.nathanzeldes.com/blog/2013/10/konrad-zuse-alan-turing-
> worlds-first-computer-startup/
> 

It’s a common thing. Folks want Turing to be involved in all computers, but in 
fact even the ACE which he designed wasn't completed until he left the National 
Physical Laboratory
... but the design was still significantly faster than other computers of the 
time, and by the time he died he was working on the mathematics of biology and 
morphogenesis using, using not designing computers, and complaining he couldn't 
get enough time on the Manchester Mk1. He was really interested in computers as 
learning and intelligent devices. He insisted the Manchester Mk1 could generate 
random numbers. I wonder what he would have made of the self driving car

Dave

> 
> 
> --
> Sent from my smartphone. Please pardon brevity & typos.



RE: QED 933 (11/93 clone) and mystery SCSI board

2018-08-18 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
They re not quite the same as the DEC one. If you get into the on board 
firmware you will see


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Paul Anderson via cctalk
Sent: 18 August 2018 06:14
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; cct...@vax-11.org
Subject: QED 933 (11/93 clone) and mystery SCSI board

I just found a QED 933. I've had Memtec boards before, but I don't remember
anything about this one.

The other board is a SI-QS 10006050-6005-B(Systems Industry?) quad
height .

Does anyone have any info or interest in these?

Thanks, Paul



Interesting blog post on Zuse

2018-08-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Konrad Zuse, Alan Turing, and the World’s First Computer Startup
POSTED ON OCTOBER 18, 2013 · POSTED IN STARTUPS



http://www.nathanzeldes.com/blog/2013/10/konrad-zuse-alan-turing-worlds-first-computer-startup/



-- 
Sent from my smartphone. Please pardon brevity & typos.