Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 5:09 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
 wrote:

> > From: Ethan Dicks
> > Is it by any chance EK-KD11K-TM-001?
>
> > That part number is for a print-set
>
> Uhh, no. Looking at the fiche version, EP-KD11K-TM-001, it has lots and lots
> of text blocks (which I can't read without a fiche reader, of course).

Ah... I've seen Tech Manuals printed as 2-up on C-sized paper,
sometimes with interstitial 11"x17" drawings that would have been
fold-outs in 8.5"x11" format.

> We do seem to have the print sets:
>
>   MP00166   11/60 System (chassis, power contoller, etc)
>   MP00409   KD11-K CPU
>   MP00500   WCS (M7870)
>   MP00429   FP11-E

Cool (MPx should be Maintenance Prints)

> but I'm not desperate enough to learn the -11/60 by looking at them!

Totally fair.

> > I'm following the discussion because I have the two BA11 cabinets for
> > an 11/60, the PSUs, and the front panel (I'm missing the rack).
>
> And by 'the rack', I'm guessing that includes the backplane? Looking through
> the prints, I think I didn't see details on it (alas).

No... "the rack" is just the outer box with rails (not an H960 -
whatever the designation is for the odd 11/60 cabinet).  The
backplanes are in the BA11s.

I seem to have both MOS and core memory and, I am fairly sure, an
RK611, along with the CPU.  I need to take a module inventory.

-ethan


Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
my recollection of the JO KD11-K is dusty. It was under development at
the same time my group was working on the DMC/KMC11 products.
The similarity of the /60 and the DMC/KMC was the fact that they were
both based on Harvard architecture implementations.
.
A Harvard arch implementation of the PDP11 ISP is an interesting challenge.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 5:09 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> > From: Bill Degnan
>
> > The 11/60 handbook doesn't have that kind of designation. It's EB06498
>
> Yeah, that's the processor handbook, which is the paperback-sized thing which
> is mostly a programmer's reference; I've got that, its the 8-1/2x11 sized
> things I'm after.
>
>
> > From: Ethan Dicks
>
> > Is it by any chance EK-KD11K-TM-001?
>
> > That part number is for a print-set
>
> Uhh, no. Looking at the fiche version, EP-KD11K-TM-001, it has lots and lots
> of text blocks (which I can't read without a fiche reader, of course).
>
> We do seem to have the print sets:
>
>   MP00166   11/60 System (chassis, power contoller, etc)
>   MP00409   KD11-K CPU
>   MP00500   WCS (M7870)
>   MP00429   FP11-E
>
> but I'm not desperate enough to learn the -11/60 by looking at them!
>
> > I'm following the discussion because I have the two BA11 cabinets for
> > an 11/60, the PSUs, and the front panel (I'm missing the rack).
>
> And by 'the rack', I'm guessing that includes the backplane? Looking through
> the prints, I think I didn't see details on it (alas).
>
> Noel


Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Bill Degnan

> The 11/60 handbook doesn't have that kind of designation. It's EB06498

Yeah, that's the processor handbook, which is the paperback-sized thing which
is mostly a programmer's reference; I've got that, its the 8-1/2x11 sized
things I'm after.


> From: Ethan Dicks

> Is it by any chance EK-KD11K-TM-001?

> That part number is for a print-set

Uhh, no. Looking at the fiche version, EP-KD11K-TM-001, it has lots and lots
of text blocks (which I can't read without a fiche reader, of course).

We do seem to have the print sets:

  MP00166   11/60 System (chassis, power contoller, etc)
  MP00409   KD11-K CPU
  MP00500   WCS (M7870)
  MP00429   FP11-E

but I'm not desperate enough to learn the -11/60 by looking at them!

> I'm following the discussion because I have the two BA11 cabinets for
> an 11/60, the PSUs, and the front panel (I'm missing the rack).
 
And by 'the rack', I'm guessing that includes the backplane? Looking through
the prints, I think I didn't see details on it (alas).

Noel


Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:04 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 3:10 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
>  wrote:
> > > Yes, it almost certainly is (without seeing it, I can't be 100%, but it
> > > sounds like it is). Is it by any chance EK-KD11K-TM-001?
>
> That part number is for a print-set, specifically the Technical Manual
> for the KD11K processor, revision 1.
>
> > The 11/60 handbook doesn't have that kind of designation.   It's EB06498
>
> That is a paperback.
>
>
Correct.  It's like all the other DEC handbooks from that era, printed on
that lovely grade triple-Z paper that falls apart if you look at it wrong.
This one's held together better than most.  Happy to send it to Noel if
it's actually of use.

- Josh




> I'm following the discussion because I have the two BA11 cabinets for
> an 11/60, the PSUs, and the front panel (I'm missing the rack).  There
> is scant info out there and I'm interested in anything that turns up.
>
> -ethan
>


Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 3:10 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
 wrote:
> > Yes, it almost certainly is (without seeing it, I can't be 100%, but it
> > sounds like it is). Is it by any chance EK-KD11K-TM-001?

That part number is for a print-set, specifically the Technical Manual
for the KD11K processor, revision 1.

> The 11/60 handbook doesn't have that kind of designation.   It's EB06498

That is a paperback.

I'm following the discussion because I have the two BA11 cabinets for
an 11/60, the PSUs, and the front panel (I'm missing the rack).  There
is scant info out there and I'm interested in anything that turns up.

-ethan


Re: Another DEC UNIBUS signal adapter: UniProbe

2019-02-27 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
Did you happen to take a look at my UA11?  It’s different in that it goes into 
an SPC slot.

TTFN - Guy

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 11:07 PM, Jörg Hoppe via cctech  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> most people dealing seriously with older PDP-11s have found means to monitor 
> the UNIBUS traffic.
> My latest approach is www.retrocmp.com/tools/uniprobe
> UniProbe is a M9302 terminator, a LED display, a probe for logic analyzer.
> It can be mounted in Standard or Modified UNIBUS sockets.
> 
> I'm ordering a batch of PCBs in a few days and will show this and other stuff 
> (UniBone, BlinkenBone) at VCFPNW in Seattle.
> https://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-pacific-northwest/
> 
> best regards,
> Joerg
> 



Rainbow 100 PSU capacitor list

2019-02-27 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk



Hi,

I think that I need to re-cap the power supply in a Rainbow 100. Does 
anyone here know if anyone has put together a list of capacitors used in 
the power supply that I can use to order parts?


alan



Re: Another DEC UNIBUS signal adapter: UniProbe

2019-02-27 Thread Jörg Hoppe via cctalk



Hi,



Did you happen to take a look at my UA11?  It’s different in that it goes into 
an SPC slot.
Yes, I was pointed to it after UniProbe was out. Good I saw it not 
earlier, would have killed my project ;-)


best regards,
Joerg



TTFN - Guy


On Feb 26, 2019, at 11:07 PM, Jörg Hoppe via cctech  
wrote:

Hi,

most people dealing seriously with older PDP-11s have found means to monitor 
the UNIBUS traffic.
My latest approach is www.retrocmp.com/tools/uniprobe
UniProbe is a M9302 terminator, a LED display, a probe for logic analyzer.
It can be mounted in Standard or Modified UNIBUS sockets.

I'm ordering a batch of PCBs in a few days and will show this and other stuff 
(UniBone, BlinkenBone) at VCFPNW in Seattle.
https://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-pacific-northwest/

best regards,
Joerg






Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Lee Courtney via cctalk
Ho Noel,

2485 "11/60" text items in the CHM Collection here:
https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/search/?s=11%2F60=text

HTH - Lee C.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:38 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi, does anyone have any PDP-11/60 manuals? I went to do articles on the
> -11/60 and its CPU (KD11-K), but there isn't much online.
>
> Bitsavers has EK-KD11K-TD-PRE, but it only covers the maintenance features,
> not the whole CPU; there is a tech manual - KD11K-TM-001 (I have it in
> fiche,
> but my fiche reader has a burned out bulb which I have not yet been able to
> replace, so it doesn't do me much good). There is a user manual for the
> FP11-E, which has a certain amount of useful details, but it refers to the
> technical manual, which is not there. And there's EK-11060-SV-01, which
> covers
> the cabinet and power supply.
>
> So if anyone has the general -11/60 manual, or the KD11-K tech manual,
> those
> would be super useful. The FP11-E tech manual would be nice to have, but
> isn't
> as important as the others.
>
> Thanks (I hope!)!
>
>Noel
>


-- 
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+1-650-704-3934 cell


Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
>
>
>
>
> Yes, it almost certainly is (without seeing it, I can't be 100%, but it
> sounds
> like it is). Is it by any chance EK-KD11K-TM-001?
>
> Thanks!
>
>  Noel
>

The 11/60 handbook doesn't have that kind of designation.   It's EB06498


Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Josh Dersch

> I recently picked up a copy of the PDP-11/60 Processor Handbook, not
> sure if that's useful for your research

Yes, it almost certainly is (without seeing it, I can't be 100%, but it sounds
like it is). Is it by any chance EK-KD11K-TM-001?

Thanks!

 Noel


Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:38 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi, does anyone have any PDP-11/60 manuals? I went to do articles on the
> -11/60 and its CPU (KD11-K), but there isn't much online.
>
> Bitsavers has EK-KD11K-TD-PRE, but it only covers the maintenance features,
> not the whole CPU; there is a tech manual - KD11K-TM-001 (I have it in
> fiche,
> but my fiche reader has a burned out bulb which I have not yet been able to
> replace, so it doesn't do me much good). There is a user manual for the
> FP11-E, which has a certain amount of useful details, but it refers to the
> technical manual, which is not there. And there's EK-11060-SV-01, which
> covers
> the cabinet and power supply.
>
> So if anyone has the general -11/60 manual, or the KD11-K tech manual,
> those
> would be super useful. The FP11-E tech manual would be nice to have, but
> isn't
> as important as the others.
>
> Thanks (I hope!)!
>
>Noel
>

I recently picked up a copy of the PDP-11/60 Processor Handbook, not sure
if that's useful for your research, but if it is let me know...

- Josh


PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-27 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
Hi, does anyone have any PDP-11/60 manuals? I went to do articles on the
-11/60 and its CPU (KD11-K), but there isn't much online.

Bitsavers has EK-KD11K-TD-PRE, but it only covers the maintenance features,
not the whole CPU; there is a tech manual - KD11K-TM-001 (I have it in fiche,
but my fiche reader has a burned out bulb which I have not yet been able to
replace, so it doesn't do me much good). There is a user manual for the
FP11-E, which has a certain amount of useful details, but it refers to the
technical manual, which is not there. And there's EK-11060-SV-01, which covers
the cabinet and power supply.

So if anyone has the general -11/60 manual, or the KD11-K tech manual, those
would be super useful. The FP11-E tech manual would be nice to have, but isn't
as important as the others.

Thanks (I hope!)!

   Noel


Re: DECserver 700 PSU fix, H7881-AA

2019-02-27 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
Hi folks,

Thanks for the links, I should’ve said I work for a DEC/HPE reseller so I can 
get replacements through work but I thought there might be some folk here 
who’ve fixed one before and might have some tips.

Cheers again

Adrian


> On 27 Feb 2019, at 18:06, Electronics Plus via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> https://shop.mitservices.com/product/digital-dec-server-700-psu-h7881-aa/
> in stock in the UK.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Gregory
> Beat via cctalk
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 12:48 PM
> To: binarydinosa...@gmail.com; cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: DECserver 700 PSU fix, H7881-AA
> 
> Adrian -
> 
> ASTEC is now owned by Emerson Power (UK address below).
> Emerson Power Catalog (find the 57 watt models):
> https://www.mouser.com/catalog/supplier/library/pdf/Emersonpower_catalog.pdf
> 
> PowerClinic in Dallas/Fort Worth area 
> services a large number of Switch-Mode power supplies.
> http://portal.powerclinicinc.com/web/services
> Power Clinic Inc.
> 3732 Arapaho Rd
> Addison, TX 75001
> USA
> ==
> H7881-AA (Refurbished), $177.00 USD
> https://www.tamayatech.com/parts.php?g=H7881AA
> 
> H7881-AA Power Supply, 57 watt , $450.00 USD
> https://www.ipsystemsinc.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=630
> 
> ASTEC - Europe (UK)
> Waterfront Business Park
> Merry Hill, Dudley
> West Midlands, DY5 1LX
> United Kingdom
> Telephone: +44 (0) 1384 842 211 
> Facsimile: +44 (0) 1384 843 355
> ==
> From: Adrian Graham
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> Subject: DECserver 700 PSU fix, H7881-AA
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> My trusty DECserver has bitten the dust in a silent and non-violent way
> with the fuse still intact so has anyone got tips on troubleshooting? I
> know it's the PSU because I 'borrowed' another PSU from work and the unit
> is running again. It's an ASTEC unit under the hood, and in my experience
> of fixing the older types like the AC8151 (Memotech, TRS80 II/III, Osborne
> etc) the chief culprits on an utterly dead PSU are the input caps and/or
> the small 220uF or 330uF startup cap in the feedback circuit.
> 
> I haven't checked bitsavers etc for a schematic yet, does such a thing
> exist? 
> Hopefully the ASTEC board has a model number on it.
> 
> Cheers
> -- 
> adrian/witchy
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> collection?
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RE: DECserver 700 PSU fix, H7881-AA

2019-02-27 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
https://shop.mitservices.com/product/digital-dec-server-700-psu-h7881-aa/
 in stock in the UK.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Gregory
Beat via cctalk
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 12:48 PM
To: binarydinosa...@gmail.com; cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: DECserver 700 PSU fix, H7881-AA

Adrian -

ASTEC is now owned by Emerson Power (UK address below).
Emerson Power Catalog (find the 57 watt models):
https://www.mouser.com/catalog/supplier/library/pdf/Emersonpower_catalog.pdf

PowerClinic in Dallas/Fort Worth area 
services a large number of Switch-Mode power supplies.
http://portal.powerclinicinc.com/web/services
Power Clinic Inc.
3732 Arapaho Rd
Addison, TX 75001
USA
==
H7881-AA (Refurbished), $177.00 USD
https://www.tamayatech.com/parts.php?g=H7881AA

H7881-AA Power Supply, 57 watt , $450.00 USD
https://www.ipsystemsinc.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=630

ASTEC - Europe (UK)
Waterfront Business Park
Merry Hill, Dudley
West Midlands, DY5 1LX
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 (0) 1384 842 211 
Facsimile: +44 (0) 1384 843 355
==
From: Adrian Graham
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Subject: DECserver 700 PSU fix, H7881-AA

Hi folks,

My trusty DECserver has bitten the dust in a silent and non-violent way
with the fuse still intact so has anyone got tips on troubleshooting? I
know it's the PSU because I 'borrowed' another PSU from work and the unit
is running again. It's an ASTEC unit under the hood, and in my experience
of fixing the older types like the AC8151 (Memotech, TRS80 II/III, Osborne
etc) the chief culprits on an utterly dead PSU are the input caps and/or
the small 220uF or 330uF startup cap in the feedback circuit.

I haven't checked bitsavers etc for a schematic yet, does such a thing
exist? 
Hopefully the ASTEC board has a model number on it.

Cheers
-- 
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
t: @binarydinosaurs
f: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk


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Re: Mystery old computer & terminals on eBay UK

2019-02-27 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
Go me :)  I've not laid eyes on one of those since I hefted them out of the
main computer suite in TnMOC's H-Block back in the noughties so we could
clean the room before the arrival of the ICL 2966. I hope they're still
around.

-- 
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Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
t: @binarydinosaursf: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk


On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 11:41, Liam Proven via cctalk 
wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 12:24, Jonathan Katz  wrote:
> >
> > Some google shows BCL=Business Computers Limited (potentially)
>
> Foolishly I didn't read the comments first.
>
> It's one of these:
>
> http://www.ps8computing.co.uk/bcl.html
>
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Re: Mystery old computer & terminals on eBay UK

2019-02-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 12:24, Jonathan Katz  wrote:
>
> Some google shows BCL=Business Computers Limited (potentially)

Foolishly I didn't read the comments first.

It's one of these:

http://www.ps8computing.co.uk/bcl.html

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Re: Mystery old computer & terminals on eBay UK

2019-02-27 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
I thought that was a variant of the BCL Mollie, aka Molecular 18 but google
disagrees with me. TnMOC have 2 of them so I'll ask the volunteers.

-- 
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collection?
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 11:13, Liam Proven via cctalk 
wrote:

> I don't recognise this, but I'm no expert.
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113665872765
>
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Re: Mystery old computer & terminals on eBay UK

2019-02-27 Thread Jonathan Katz via cctalk
Some google shows BCL=Business Computers Limited (potentially)

Or maybe one of these:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:mBGDWqY-bzkJ:www.tnmoc.org/special-projects/lost-systems/bcl-molecular-computer+=4=en=clnk=uk

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:13 AM Liam Proven via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I don't recognise this, but I'm no expert.
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113665872765
>
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Re: Mystery old computer & terminals on eBay UK

2019-02-27 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 6:13 AM Liam Proven via cctalk 
wrote:

> I don't recognise this, but I'm no expert.
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113665872765
>
> --
>

Could be a 9 track tape or storage drive/cart storage unit?  Or some sort
of peripheral?
Bill

>


Mystery old computer & terminals on eBay UK

2019-02-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I don't recognise this, but I'm no expert.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113665872765

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Re: HP 85 tapes

2019-02-27 Thread Martin Hepperle via cctalk
Christian,

the TAPDUP binary and associated utility programs in BASIC was used to
create EPROMs with programs and data for the 9915 Series-80 box.

It can be used to read the directory record and then to read tokenized
PROGrams as data on a file-record base - not at low record level.
The package also contains programs to massage the PROG data into BASIC DATA
statements for creating EPROM burner files.

You could use it to read the tape directory and individual PROG files but
right now I am not aware of a program which would write this data back to a
tape.
You would open the directory, look up a file and then OPEN IMAGE it. Next
you would READ RECORD IMAGE$ the program record by record.

In the end you have not gained much compared to the simple COPY statement.
Except for the copy of the directory with attributes and security flags.

Alternative:
There are also READSECTOR binary programs for reading raw 256 byte
records/sectors from disks. They also work on the tape ":T" but seem to
start their record count after the directory records. On disks, record 0 is
the first real sector.

So, to get the complete binary content one could use 
C$=CATALOG$  from TAPDUP to read the directory record
READSECTOR N,R$,D from to read the subsequent raw "data" records.

Here are my notes on some of the functions in this binary program:

The TAPDUP Binary (Notes by M. Hepperle)
This binary contains functions to read tapes (HP-85, 9915) at low level. It
does not handle disks.
The program was part of the "Tape Duplication and EPROM Programming Pack"
(09915-10010).
As the original software was not available the binary was re-assembled from
an assembler source file.
This source file was obviously created by disassembling the original binary.
It was found at M. Craggs web site:
http://www.biblewitness.org/technical/HP_Series-80/HP-85/ASSM .
Martin Craggs home-made disassembler produced many unnecessary DRP and ARP
statements, which could be cleaned up to improve readbility.

Functions in the TAPDUP binary:

C$=CATALOG$
Return the directory record of the tape in form of a 512 byte buffer (2
records).
C$ must be DIMed to at least 512.
 
OPEN IMAGE F$
Find the file F$ and open it for reading.
ERRN=67: file not found

T=READTYPE
Return the file type of the currently opened image
(the file image must be opened by a preceding call to OPEN IMAGE)
34 = PROG

N$=READNAME$
Return the file name of the currently opened image
(the file image must be opened by a preceding call to OPEN IMAGE)

R$=READ RECORD IMAGE$
Read the next record of the currently opened file.
The record has a length of 256 bytes.
Reading can be continued by another READ RECORD IMAGE$ until ERRN=71
indicates a read behind the end of the file.
See lines 440 ff in IMAGE program for a typical reading loop. 
(the file image must be opened by a preceding call to OPEN IMAGE)
ERRN=71: end of file reached.

CREATE IMAGE S$,I,J,K
3 numeric parameters

WRITE IMAGE R$
Write record to (where?) "Error 244: No file open"

WRITE CATALOG C$
Writes the catalogue back to disk.
C$ must contain a valid catalog structure, otherwise your tape will be
unreadable afterwards.

READLOGLEN
Read the logical record length, which is 256.

Another useful function in the Program Development ROM
C$=CHECKSUM$(S$)
Return the IBM SDLC CRC checksum of the given string (the length of the
checksum is two bytes).


Example: dumping the tape catalog
Each catalog entry is 12 bytes


10 DIM C$[512]
20 C$=CATALOG$
30 K=1
40 FOR I=1 TO 504 STEP 12
50 FOR J=1 TO 12
60 PRINT C$[K,K];
70 K=K+1
80 NEXT J
90 PRINT
100 NEXT I
110 PRINT
120 END


Tape documentation lifted from Everett Kaser's Series-80 Emulator (I hope
Everett won't sue me for this blatant copyright infringement):


TAPE LAYOUT
---
The HP-85 tape cartridges contained at most 43 files.
File 0 was always the TAPE DIRECTORY, and was always
4 records long.  Files 1-42 were the user-created files.
The tape itself had 2 TRACKS, 0 and 1.

There were TWO COPIES of the TAPE DIRECTORY, one in
records 0 and 1 of file 0, and a second in records 2 and 3
of file 0.  Record 2 was an exact duplicate of record 0,
and record 3 was an exact duplicate of record 1.  Only
one record of the directory could be read into memory at
a time, so the system had to keep track of whether the
first 1/2 or the second 1/2 of the directory was in memory
(or neither).

Each DIRECTORY RECORD consisted of 21 12-byte directory
entries, which equals 252 bytes.  The final 4 bytes of
each record as follows:
  252   directory segment flag (0 or 1).
  253   FILE# of file that wraps from the end of TRACK 0 to
the beginning of TRACK 1.
  254   (2 bytes) RECORD# of first record of the split file
  255   that's on TRACK 1.

Each DIRECTORY ENTRY consists of 12 bytes, allocated thusly:
  BYTES DESCRIPTION
  - -
  0-5   ASCII FILE NAME, blank filled
  6 EXTENDED File Type
  

Another DEC UNIBUS signal adapter: UniProbe

2019-02-27 Thread Jörg Hoppe via cctalk

Hi,

most people dealing seriously with older PDP-11s have found means to 
monitor the UNIBUS traffic.

My latest approach is www.retrocmp.com/tools/uniprobe
UniProbe is a M9302 terminator, a LED display, a probe for logic analyzer.
It can be mounted in Standard or Modified UNIBUS sockets.

I'm ordering a batch of PCBs in a few days and will show this and other 
stuff (UniBone, BlinkenBone) at VCFPNW in Seattle.

https://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-pacific-northwest/

best regards,
Joerg



Re: HP 85 tapes

2019-02-27 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019, Paul Berger wrote:
Well a quick google and I found this 
http://vintagecomputers.site90.net/hp85/hp9915_eprom.htm it would seem that 
this was one of the tools used to build images of programs to burn into 
EPROMs for  9915 which is a version of the 85 designed to be used as an 
embedded controller.


I don't think this is the same program. The TAPDUP I'm looking at has 13 
tokens/commands, none of which is mentioned in any of the 9915 docs.


Christian