Re: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 6/27/19 5:09 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:
What I've usually heard is don't have your domain registrar also be your 
site host.  Like GoDaddy.


‽

Apparently some people have had problems with the host not letting 
them move the name registration when switching hosting providers. 
Or vice versa.


Ah.  Vendor lock in.

I'm guessing that people buy packages that are only valid as a complete 
package.  So when you try to break the package, everything in the 
package vaporizes.  Much like triple play TV / Internet Phone from the 
Cable / Phone company.


I don't have any experience with that. I've either self hosted or, 
like now, have co-located hardware.


:-)



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Re: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 6/27/2019 12:56 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:

On 6/27/19 2:38 AM, U'll Be King of the Stars via cctalk wrote:

I have heard the that you shouldn't have your register be the same company as 
your DNS provider, and I intend to revise this proposition. If the argument 
still holds then I would keep gandi.net as my registrar look for a different 
DNS service.


I've not heard that myself.

But I can see how people might say that in an effort to distribute eggs across 
more baskets.




What I've usually heard is don't have your domain registrar also be your site 
host.  Like GoDaddy.  Apparently some people have had problems with the host 
not letting them move the name registration when switching hosting providers.  
Or vice versa. I don't have any experience with that. I've either self hosted 
or, like now, have co-located hardware.

--
John H. Reinhardt



Re: Identifying some boards

2019-06-27 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
These look like they're from 486 era file server hardware.


On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 11:16 AM Kyle Owen via cctalk 
wrote:

> I picked up these boards many weeks ago, but haven't photographed them
> until recently. Some of them are pretty disgusting, but some of the others
> look alright.
>
> Anyone have any idea what these came out of? Some are labeled Gould, others
> are labeled Encore.
>
> http://imgur.com/a/d9iK9qb
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kyle
>


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
Look at  http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=39958

Marc

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:30 AM Mark J. Blair via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> > On Jun 27, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Back when I got to school and I was hanging around the computer room on
> > campus (back when it was THE room on campus with computers), I saw this
> > half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for. The
> > on-staff operator took a mag tape off the rack, opened it up and set the
> > end of the tape on the table. She then took the fob and placed it on the
> > end of the tape and all the iron filings that were suspended in the
> liquid
> > inside the fob aligned to the magnetic fields of the tape.
>
> I don't recall seeing one of those in either of the computer rooms I
> worked in as a student back in the late 1980s. I would love to get my hands
> on one (or make one?) now.
>
> --
> Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
> http://www.nf6x.net/
>
>


Re: DNS and Registrar

2019-06-27 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 6/27/19 12:53 PM, jim stephens wrote:

They don't have to be combined.


Agreed.

I've been running DNS servers for about 20 years.  I /always/ prefer to 
run my own DNS servers if I can.


I have never run across a situation where I was unable to do so for 
/technical/ reasons.  I have had clients that /chose/ to /not/ host 
their own DNS for a /business/ reason.


I have a friend running his and my DNS on a server at his house with two 
DSL feeds for good measure, one is primary DNS for our domains, second 
one is published as the secondary.


*nod*

I'd worry about DSL circuits and stability for DNS.  But it will 
probably work > 98% of the time.  If you're comfortable with it, more 
power to you.


I would likely do something more like I'm doing now, run the master name 
server (MNAME field in the SOA record) on the DSL and have somebody else 
with a more robust connection (DSL had issues where I'm from) do a slave 
zone transfer and be the listed Name Servers (NS records) that the world 
talks to.


I actually do that now with my VPS being the MNAME server and my VPS 
provider doing slave zone transfers off of me.


Note how the registrar is not part of that mix.  ;-)

The biggest thing to watch for is the lax rules for transfering 
domains.  There was a problem with that, but most registrars allow locks 
now that impede the movement of domains w/o a bit of work.


That sounds like you're talking about moving domains between registrars, 
which is decidedly different than and independent of where DNS is hosted.


Admittedly the registrar has to point (delegate) to the DNS hosting 
provider.  But it's fairly easy to move domains between registrars 
without even logging into a portal at the DNS host.


Used to take a couple of emails to highjack a domain, as there wasn't 
even a notification to verify that the transfer process email was 
requested by the owner.


Ya.  Registrars have had some deficiencies over the years.  I think they 
are getting better.


You are strongly encouraged to use a third party "professional" DNS 
service, but it only really need to be up reliably.


~whistling~ … ~quiet~ … I'm sorry, did you say something?  No.  Never 
mind.  I'll go back to what I was doing.  …  ~whistling~


I mean that as a joke.  I let a LOT of what companies that are trying to 
sell to me go in one ear, sanity check it, and then go out the other ear.


I'm of the opinion that a static IP is the biggest requirement for 
/most/ DNS service.  I.e. somewhere to have the registrar delegate the 
DNS to.


Beyond that, I'm happy to delegate sub-domains to people on dynamic IPs 
if they want them.


It's possible to put DNS a LOT of places that don't qualify as "Best 
Practice".  Most of them will work most of the time.


We have the dual providers for the node my friend runs, as we know from 
the phone companies and providers that though the DNS is over the same 
12 pair wire into his house (another trick), the CO actually has the 
DNS switches on different racks and UPS's.  Which isn't a bad precaution.


That's probably okay for most things.  But it's still subject to Backhoe 
Bob and the fade that he can induce.


That's why I have my master that I can do anything and everything I want 
to, and outsource to slave secondaries.  Linode, my VPS provider, has 
five different DNS servers that (I belie) are geographically diverse. 
It will be quite a bit harder to take out all five of their DNS servers. 
 Plus, I don't have to pay for connectivity in five different 
locations.  ;-)


I'm curious, you said DSL.  But that could be anything from 1.5 Mbps 
ADSL to SDSL to VDSL.  Each of which have different capabilities and 
SLAs.  Other than the backhoe fade taking out both connections at the 
same time, higher quality DSL with SLAs is probably okay to do.


I think the official recommendation for big (think root level) DNS 
servers is to have each server in a different network, where network is 
defined as /24 (or larger), preferably under different ASNs.


But that's not a /requirement/, especially for smaller DNS operators.


thanks


You're welcome.



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Re: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 6/27/19 2:38 AM, U'll Be King of the Stars via cctalk wrote:
I have heard the that you shouldn't have your register be the same 
company as your DNS provider, and I intend to revise this proposition. 
If the argument still holds then I would keep gandi.net as my registrar 
look for a different DNS service.


I've not heard that myself.

But I can see how people might say that in an effort to distribute eggs 
across more baskets.




--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/27/19 10:03 AM, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
> At 11:32 AM 6/27/2019, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>> If you google "magnetic tape viewer" they have pictures of what I think the 
>> earlier poster described.
> 
> I see quite a few on eBay and Amazon.  Looks like you just need to 
> pick a Japanese one?  What's the distinguishing characteristic of a
> better one?  It'll see mag tape marks like the liquid does?  
> Or I would assume the liquid is much more high resolution.

I've not had any luck using the gold-colored Japanese film on magtape.
Magnetic stripes yes, but not tapes.

--Chuck



Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 11:32 AM 6/27/2019, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>If you google "magnetic tape viewer" they have pictures of what I think the 
>earlier poster described.

I see quite a few on eBay and Amazon.  Looks like you just need to 
pick a Japanese one?  What's the distinguishing characteristic of a
better one?  It'll see mag tape marks like the liquid does?  
Or I would assume the liquid is much more high resolution.

- John



Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 06/27/2019 10:30 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:

I don't recall seeing one of those in either of the computer rooms I worked in 
as a student back in the late 1980s. I would love to get my hands on one (or 
make one?) now.


One brand of a liquid you put on the tape is MagnaSee.
If you google "magnetic tape viewer" they have pictures of 
what I think the earlier poster described.


Jon


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 06/27/2019 10:21 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:


Back when I got to school and I was hanging around the computer room on
campus (back when it was THE room on campus with computers), I saw this
half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for. The
on-staff operator took a mag tape off the rack, opened it up and set the
end of the tape on the table. She then took the fob and placed it on the
end of the tape and all the iron filings that were suspended in the liquid
inside the fob aligned to the magnetic fields of the tape. They used it to
tell the difference between 800, 1600 and 6250 bps tapes so they could
handle the tapes correctly
800 BPI tapes had no recording over the BOT marker.  1600, 
3200 and 6250 tapes had different tracks with a burst of 
ones and zeroes across the marker, that uniquely identified 
the density.
It had to be a really SIMPLE scheme as the drive itself (not 
the formatter) needed to detect this and set various 
circuits correctly, like read preamp gain and slicer threshold.


Jon


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
In days old olde - -   we  used  to  use  liquid stuff like this  when  
splicing   video  tape  too...    It  would  shoe  the head  scan lines  Ed#
In a message dated 6/27/2019 9:09:50 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

I still use KyRead (older 70s era versions were Magnasee and Visomag),
which are applied directly to the magnetic medium.  Basically a mixture
of micron-sized pyrolytic iron powder and an inert, rapidly-evaporating
carrier.  Shake the bottle up and drop some on the medium.  As the
carrier evaporates the magnetic features become visible.

What hit the vendors of such stuff was the Montreal protocol ban on
CFCs, such as Freon TF.  Kyros adapted initially by using an HCFC, but
as those were sunsetted, went to some sort of ether.  You can still get
the stuff.  Be prepared to be shocked on shipping charges.

I've suggested to an overseas friend that a mixture of methanol and
pyrolytic iron powder might work without damaging the medium.  He
reports that it works, but the methanol does take a bit of time to
evaporate.

The viewing films aren't terribly useful for magnetic tapes, but do show
the features of a credit-card magnetic stripe (lower bit density).  But
get the Japanese film, not the common green stuff, as it's not very
sensitive.

Mostly what I use the Kyread for here is separating 7- from 9-track
tapes and verifying that a tape had been degaussed.

Here, for example is what a 7-track tape looks like using a simple
webcam to take the photo:

https://i.imgur.com/wKuTXZH.jpg

--Chuck


On 6/27/19 8:46 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 9:42 AM Al Kossow via cctalk 
> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 6/27/19 8:21 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
>>> I saw this
>>> half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for.
>>
>> http://qicreader.blogspot.com/p/track-visualization.html
>>
>> shows a couple of them
>>
> 
> Yea, the plastiform magnetic viewer was the thing that I saw. Nice article,
> including pictures of the bits on a credit card...
> 
> Warner
> 


-- 
--Chuck

Sent from my digital computer



RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Sophie Haskins via cctalk
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Jon Elson via cctalk
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:56 AM
> To: Charles Dickman ; gene...@ezwind.net;
> Discussion@ 
> Subject: Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> 
> On 06/26/2019 08:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
> > Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for
> > my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
> >
> > -chuck
> >
> I use Network Solutions, they are a bit expensive, though.
> Godaddy also provides that service.  Don't go with the cheapest, they could go
> out of business anytime.  My secondary DNS provider did just that, a month
> after I paid up for 2 years.
> 
> Jon

Though they may score no better than Oracle on some folks "companies to avoid" 
list, I use Google as my registrar https://domains.google.com and they do free 
dynamic DNS for domains you run with them supporting a handful of client 
protocols (https://support.google.com/domains/answer/6147083) - I use dyndns2 
coming from my EdgeRouter Lite, so don't need a program running on a desktop 
and it has been quite nice.

Sophie


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I still use KyRead (older 70s era versions were Magnasee and Visomag),
which are applied directly to the magnetic medium.  Basically a mixture
of micron-sized pyrolytic iron powder and an inert, rapidly-evaporating
carrier.   Shake the bottle up and drop some on the medium.  As the
carrier evaporates the magnetic features become visible.

What hit the vendors of such stuff was the Montreal protocol ban on
CFCs, such as Freon TF.  Kyros adapted initially by using an HCFC, but
as those were sunsetted, went to some sort of ether.  You can still get
the stuff.  Be prepared to be shocked on shipping charges.

I've suggested to an overseas friend that a mixture of methanol and
pyrolytic iron powder might work without damaging the medium.  He
reports that it works, but the methanol does take a bit of time to
evaporate.

The viewing films aren't terribly useful for magnetic tapes, but do show
the features of a credit-card magnetic stripe (lower bit density).  But
get the Japanese film, not the common green stuff, as it's not very
sensitive.

Mostly what I use the Kyread for here is separating 7- from 9-track
tapes and verifying that a tape had been degaussed.

Here, for example is what a 7-track tape looks like using a simple
webcam to take the photo:

https://i.imgur.com/wKuTXZH.jpg

--Chuck


On 6/27/19 8:46 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 9:42 AM Al Kossow via cctalk 
> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 6/27/19 8:21 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
>>> I saw this
>>> half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for.
>>
>> http://qicreader.blogspot.com/p/track-visualization.html
>>
>> shows a couple of them
>>
> 
> Yea, the plastiform magnetic viewer was the thing that I saw. Nice article,
> including pictures of the bits on a credit card...
> 
> Warner
> 


-- 
--Chuck

Sent from my digital computer


Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 06/26/2019 08:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:

Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for my
vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.

-chuck

I use Network Solutions, they are a bit expensive, though.  
Godaddy also provides that service.  Don't go with the 
cheapest, they could go out of business anytime.  My 
secondary DNS provider did just that, a month after I paid 
up for 2 years.


Jon


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 9:42 AM Al Kossow via cctalk 
wrote:

>
>
> On 6/27/19 8:21 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> > I saw this
> > half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for.
>
> http://qicreader.blogspot.com/p/track-visualization.html
>
> shows a couple of them
>

Yea, the plastiform magnetic viewer was the thing that I saw. Nice article,
including pictures of the bits on a credit card...

Warner


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 6/27/19 8:21 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> I saw this
> half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for.

http://qicreader.blogspot.com/p/track-visualization.html

shows a couple of them




Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
It is true. Inter-block gaps are huge and easy to spot/splice.
That is why writing short tape blocks wastes so much tape.

On 6/27/19 8:21 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:

> I've also heard people tell stories of using this fob to find the end of
> the marks and records on mag tape to splice together tapes that had become
> broken and ruined (so they'd cut the damaged records out at record
> boundaries to recover at least some of the data on ANSI formatted tapes). I
> don't know if this was a tall tale designed to impress over a beer, or the
> sad confessions of someone that had gone through a lot of pain and needed
> to share...
> 
> Warner
> 



Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk



> On Jun 27, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Back when I got to school and I was hanging around the computer room on
> campus (back when it was THE room on campus with computers), I saw this
> half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for. The
> on-staff operator took a mag tape off the rack, opened it up and set the
> end of the tape on the table. She then took the fob and placed it on the
> end of the tape and all the iron filings that were suspended in the liquid
> inside the fob aligned to the magnetic fields of the tape.

I don't recall seeing one of those in either of the computer rooms I worked in 
as a student back in the late 1980s. I would love to get my hands on one (or 
make one?) now.

-- 
Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
http://www.nf6x.net/



Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:42 AM Kevin McQuiggin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> In the early days of cyber crime (it was called “computer crime” back in
> the 1980s), fraudsters would purchase an aerosol spray with tiny metal
> particles in it (I forget what the specific valid use case was, but it was
> legitimate), and apply the spray to the mag stripe on the back of credit
> cards, then visually read out the bits with a magnifier.  1s and 0s
> oriented the tiny metal bits orthogonally, and this could be observed.
> Then they would program card blanks with the recovered mag stripe data.
>
> Mag stripe readers were expensive and hard to acquire in those days, so
> this was the chosen method of recovering track data from credit cards.
>

Back when I got to school and I was hanging around the computer room on
campus (back when it was THE room on campus with computers), I saw this
half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for. The
on-staff operator took a mag tape off the rack, opened it up and set the
end of the tape on the table. She then took the fob and placed it on the
end of the tape and all the iron filings that were suspended in the liquid
inside the fob aligned to the magnetic fields of the tape. They used it to
tell the difference between 800, 1600 and 6250 bps tapes so they could
handle the tapes correctly (can't recall if there were two tape drives, or
if there were manual switches). I asked how she knew the difference, and
she said that after you do enough of them, you can tell by a glance. When
she started, her boss had given her a bunch of segments of tape of known
density to look at. After playing with it for a few minutes, and sometimes
referring back to them, she got the hang of it, which sounds a bit like
part of the story posted earlier in this thread.

I've also heard people tell stories of using this fob to find the end of
the marks and records on mag tape to splice together tapes that had become
broken and ruined (so they'd cut the damaged records out at record
boundaries to recover at least some of the data on ANSI formatted tapes). I
don't know if this was a tall tale designed to impress over a beer, or the
sad confessions of someone that had gone through a lot of pain and needed
to share...

Warner


Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, da...@kdbarto.org wrote:
From what I can determine the paid service will continue, it is the free 
service that is being stopped. Kinda sad really. I used to (until this


The free service from dyndns.org had been stopped several years ago 
(somewhere between 2012 and 2014). I know that because I was forced to 
look for a free alternative.


Christian


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Noel Chiappa wrote:

   > From: Liam Proven

   > This is *epic*.

Indeed. I was blown away by the complexity of his technique for reading
the digits.

I can't believe there wasn't a much easier technique, though, e.g. using a
logic analyzer and a small program to read through the ROS!


That's what I have suggested him, but he wanted to test his algorithm on 
this project, and all I can say is wow :-)
The "ordinary" way of reading the Executable ROS contents is to put the 
machine into single-step mode and press RESTART. This effectively enables 
access to the ROS contents via the address and data bus on the backplane. 
You then force the upper address bits from outside (it's an open-collector 
bus), i.e. in increments of 1024 bytes, and sample the 1024 byte block 
from the data bus along with the lowest 10 address bits. The caveat is 
that the display controller will be enabled and permanently accesses the first 
1024 bytes of the memory for the screen display.
I had read the contents of my 5110 Executable ROS modules just like Tom, 
but I used normal image post-processing and OCR - all that many years ago 
and therefore with a lot of manual work involved ;-) But that was 
successful at the end and lead to a functional 5110 emulator.


Christian




Perhaps the challenge of doing it his way entertained him, though, like
George Mallory's famous line about climbing Everest.

Noel




Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
Mag stripe readers were expensive and hard to acquire in those days, so 
this was the chosen method of recovering track data from credit cards.


Readers were cheap. Writers were expensive and hard to get.

- Ethan





Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread David via cctalk


> On Jun 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, Ali via cctalk  wrote:
> 
>> There has not been a free option for seveal years.  I switched to the
>> paid version.
>> 
>> But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being
>> digested.  (I have seen this process happen over and over again with
>> acquisitions.  The final stage, of selling off whatever is left
>> afterwards, is "excretion".)
> 
> 
> True that. However, the email I got seems to indicate the service will be
> ongoing for a while and speaking from a personal standpoint I paid for a 3
> year renewal just a few months back. So unless they are planning on offering
> refunds I expect my service to continue for a few more years. By then the
> landscape will have changed again. 
> 
> One issue with the other providers is the lack of integration - at least for
> me. On most of the gear I use the DynDns service is a in HW option. So I
> don't have to run clients on my clients to update IPs.
> 
> -Ali
> 

From what I can determine the paid service will continue, it is the free service
that is being stopped. Kinda sad really. I used to (until this happened) 
recommend
dyn as a good service to use. Nice to see the recommendations for others popping
up here.

Time to do a little research.

I’m paid for the next 5 years with Dyn. At that time I’ll have to re-evaluate 
my options.

David



Big news, re: mobile computing history

2019-06-27 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk

Hello!

I have a major announcement. :)

It's time for version 2.0 of my book, "Abacus to smartphone: The 
evolution of mobile and portable computers," which I published on dead 
trees four years ago.


This time, it's going to be a (free!) interactive website: the era of 
printed books is behind us.


Please help me raise funds to make this happen. Funders will get 
exclusive access for the first month that the website is live 
(approximately the whole of August 2019).


All of the details (such what's new/different) are here: 
https://fundrazr.com/b1WZ91?ref=ab_74VRia ... please check it out.


Thanks!!

-Evan



Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread dwight via cctalk
I love the walk through things. I'd clearly have found a wired, digital, method 
of doing it ( printer port or such ).
I had a similar problem. I was recovering 4004 code printed out with what 
looked like a ASR33 print. I did it manually. On looking at the data, I suspect 
the platen had ruts as the pdf image had faded columns. Most of the letter text 
was for labels or comments. These were easy to patch things like P and F or E 
and B. The harder one was C and 0.  The program mostly used decimal but when 
specifying 4004 registers data, it used for the SRC instructions or nibble 
data, they were in HEX. C and 0 were used quite often. I was able to find what 
I believe were all the errors by emulating the 4004 code and finding errors in 
the operation. I recall finding the last error that was in the display output 
routine ( related to placement of the decimal point ). I'd put "00" where the 
original code was "CC". 99+% of the "CC" in the rest of the code were really 
"00". Most mixed were either "0C" or "C0" so it seemed justified to be "00". It 
was the only location that "CC" existed in the entire code.
Even the best OCR could not have done as well as a human that understood what 
the intent was. Understanding the redundancy in the code is a valuable 
attribute that a human has that would be difficult for a learning program to 
pick up. I've used similar thinking to fix cassette tape data that had 
dropouts. It was BASIC code, although tokenized. The redundancy of the good 
parts of the data made filling in the missing parts easier.
Dwight


From: cctalk  on behalf of Liam Proven via 
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Subject: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

This is *epic*.

https://github.com/stepleton/5100NonExecutableROSDecode/blob/master/WRITEUP.md

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Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/27/19 7:30 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Liam Proven
> 
> > This is *epic*.
> 
> Indeed. I was blown away by the complexity of his technique for reading
> the digits.
> 
> I can't believe there wasn't a much easier technique, though, e.g. using a
> logic analyzer and a small program to read through the ROS!
> 
> Perhaps the challenge of doing it his way entertained him, though, like
> George Mallory's famous line about climbing Everest.

Even if one didn't want to get into the innards of the 5100 too deeply,
one could avoid the ambiguity of reading the screen photographically by
intercepting the sweep and video signals.

Lots of ways to skin this cat.

--Chuck


Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Kevin McQuiggin via cctalk
In the early days of cyber crime (it was called “computer crime” back in the 
1980s), fraudsters would purchase an aerosol spray with tiny metal particles in 
it (I forget what the specific valid use case was, but it was legitimate), and 
apply the spray to the mag stripe on the back of credit cards, then visually 
read out the bits with a magnifier.  1s and 0s oriented the tiny metal bits 
orthogonally, and this could be observed.  Then they would program card blanks 
with the recovered mag stripe data.  

Mag stripe readers were expensive and hard to acquire in those days, so this 
was the chosen method of recovering track data from credit cards.

I was a police detective investigating “Stone Age”, i.e. pre-Internet cyber 
crime in that era, and saw this for myself by actually spraying a card and then 
reading out its data.  

Very creative criminals!  

Kevin




> On Jun 27, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> From: Liam Proven
> 
>> This is *epic*.
> 
> Indeed. I was blown away by the complexity of his technique for reading
> the digits.
> 
> I can't believe there wasn't a much easier technique, though, e.g. using a
> logic analyzer and a small program to read through the ROS!
> 
> Perhaps the challenge of doing it his way entertained him, though, like
> George Mallory's famous line about climbing Everest.
> 
>   Noel



Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Liam Proven

> This is *epic*.

Indeed. I was blown away by the complexity of his technique for reading
the digits.

I can't believe there wasn't a much easier technique, though, e.g. using a
logic analyzer and a small program to read through the ROS!

Perhaps the challenge of doing it his way entertained him, though, like
George Mallory's famous line about climbing Everest.

Noel


RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Ali via cctalk
> There has not been a free option for seveal years.  I switched to the
> paid version.
> 
> But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being
> digested.  (I have seen this process happen over and over again with
> acquisitions.  The final stage, of selling off whatever is left
> afterwards, is "excretion".)


True that. However, the email I got seems to indicate the service will be
ongoing for a while and speaking from a personal standpoint I paid for a 3
year renewal just a few months back. So unless they are planning on offering
refunds I expect my service to continue for a few more years. By then the
landscape will have changed again. 

One issue with the other providers is the lack of integration - at least for
me. On most of the gear I use the DynDns service is a in HW option. So I
don't have to run clients on my clients to update IPs.

-Ali



Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:54:58PM -0700, Ali via cctalk wrote:
> As I understand it DynDNS is still being offered as a service. Is it
> because there is no longer a free option?

There has not been a free option for seveal years.  I switched to the
paid version.

But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being
digested.  (I have seen this process happen over and over again with
acquisitions.  The final stage, of selling off whatever is left
afterwards, is "excretion".)

mcl


Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This is *epic*.

https://github.com/stepleton/5100NonExecutableROSDecode/blob/master/WRITEUP.md

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Re: R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread U'll Be King of the Stars via cctalk
I have my DNS records hosted at gandi.net, who are also my registrar.  I
have been using for the last 10-15 years with no problems.

I have heard the that you shouldn't have your register be the same
company as your DNS provider, and I intend to revise this proposition.
If the argument still holds then I would keep gandi.net as my registrar
look for a different DNS service.

I tried a lot of third-party DNS services for about five years before
settling on gandi.net.  Some were very expensive and some were not.
There was no difference in the quality of service and quality of support
between the expensive and inexpensive ones, but I never had any luck
with the free ones.

Andrew

On 27/06/2019 09:19, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk wrote:
> I use no-ip, the free version. And it's not particularly pushing the paid
> option aside just suggesting it on renewal.
> There's an email I don't even remember every how many months, requiring 2
> clicks to keep the free subscription active, and that's all
> 
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Mark Linimon
> via cctalk
> Inviato: giovedì 27 giugno 2019 03:49
> A: Charles Dickman; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Oggetto: Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> 
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:36:30PM -0400, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
>> Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for my
>> vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.
> 
> I was just investigating free alternatives myself earlier today.  (I
> have not yet come up with a conclusion.)
> 
> I currently use the free he.net ivp6 tunnel so I may already be set up
> for their free DNS service, but I don't know yet.  (I can recommend the
> tunnel.)
> 
> Most of the articles on the web mention:
> 
>   Dynu, afraid.org, Duck DNS, and No-IP
> 
> among a few others.  The latter sounds like they are really pushing
> their paid model, though.  (OTOH each of the above has paid tiers for
> all but the most basic users.)
> 
> If you are using pfSense like I am, they already support:
> 
>   https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/dynamic-dns.html
> 
> I would be happy to hear of actual experiences with any of these.
> 
> mcl
> 

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Re: RSTS collection in the UK

2019-06-27 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk

On 27/06/2019 07:53, Dave Wade wrote:

Pete,

  Am I right in thinking Jim has no scanning facilities, and access is still 
one weekend in two.


Pretty much.

--
Pete
Pete Turnbull


R: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
I use no-ip, the free version. And it's not particularly pushing the paid
option aside just suggesting it on renewal.
There's an email I don't even remember every how many months, requiring 2
clicks to keep the free subscription active, and that's all

-Messaggio originale-
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Mark Linimon
via cctalk
Inviato: giovedì 27 giugno 2019 03:49
A: Charles Dickman; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:36:30PM -0400, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:
> Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for my
> vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider.

I was just investigating free alternatives myself earlier today.  (I
have not yet come up with a conclusion.)

I currently use the free he.net ivp6 tunnel so I may already be set up
for their free DNS service, but I don't know yet.  (I can recommend the
tunnel.)

Most of the articles on the web mention:

  Dynu, afraid.org, Duck DNS, and No-IP

among a few others.  The latter sounds like they are really pushing
their paid model, though.  (OTOH each of the above has paid tiers for
all but the most basic users.)

If you are using pfSense like I am, they already support:

  https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/dynamic-dns.html

I would be happy to hear of actual experiences with any of these.

mcl



RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS

2019-06-27 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Ali via cctalk
> Sent: 27 June 2019 06:55
> To: 'Grant Taylor' ; 'General Discussion:
> On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' 
> Subject: RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> 
> > > Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service
> > > for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement
> > provider.
> 
> What is the exact issue here? As I understand it DynDNS is still being offered
> as a service. Is it because there is no longer a free option?
> 
> -Ali


 I bought a domain from Mythic Beasts. The domain is I think around £6 a year 
but includes free dynamic DNS

https://www.mythic-beasts.com/domains

Dave



RE: RSTS collection in the UK

2019-06-27 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Pete Turnbull via
> cctalk
> Sent: 27 June 2019 00:01
> To: Al Kossow via cctalk 
> Subject: Re: RSTS collection in the UK
> 
> On 26/06/2019 22:52, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > On 6/26/19 1:00 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
> >> Could we forward to the UK DecTech list?
> >
> > Let's see if Pete Turnbull is able to make contact
> 
> I have, but I've not yet made any arrangement to collect it all.  It could be
> postponed until late July as the donor will be away, so there's time to 
> arrange
> something if anyone can.
> 

Pete,

 Am I right in thinking Jim has no scanning facilities, and access is still one 
weekend in two.  

Dave

> --
> Pete
> Pete Turnbull