Re: Early Univac Commercial

2019-09-20 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk



On 2019-09-20 12:52 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

On 9/20/19 8:16 AM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:

Isn't there also one that's a "help wanted" for programming positions?
I seem to recall that they didn't say anything about professional training
or experience, just things like "do you have a logical, ordered way of
thinking?"

I don't recall, but IBM had a "computer aptitude test" that it
administered to just about anyone involved in sales or the technical
end, regardless of education.   I recall taking such a test, though I
turned down IBM's job offer.

--Chuck

Before I was hired as a CE I took a few test for understanding of 
digital logic as also mechanics as there was still lots of 
electro-mechanical equipment around 40 years ago.  Later when I 
transferred to a job in a development lab I took a test called the DPAT 
which was all aimed at testing logical thinking skills.  I was never 
told how I scored on any of these tests, but I was hired and I did get 
accepted for the training program that lead up to a job in the 
development lab.


Paul.




Re: PBXes at home

2019-09-20 Thread Steven M Jones via cctalk

On 09/19/2019 19:27, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:


A number of years ago I picked up a Lucent Merlin Legend system. ...


Around 2000 I picked up an expanded Nortel Compact ICS (CICS) with voice 
mail unit - might be the last thing I bought from a NetNews post. That 
was 8 analog CO lines and 24 extensions as received, with a tub of 
cables, phones, buttons, die-cut un-printed inserts, a few manuals, etc.


Overkill for a four bedroom house with attached office, but it gave me 
all the features I wanted as a remote worker. I had the music on hold 
wired up, but stopped using it after one occasion where I put a staff 
meeting conference call on hold... When I finally acquired an ISDN line 
card years later I was very excited, but then I moved cross country 
before I put it into service. Maybe I should have tried to order ISDN at 
the new place but it was late 2005, and my DSL Internet service included 
an analog loop with free calling nationwide...


Still using the CICS, having upgraded some handsets (M7310 -> T7316e) 
and the system software.


--S.


MicroVAX 3100 ROMs

2019-09-20 Thread Adam Thornton via cctalk
My MicroVAX 3100 gets stuck in boot with the leftmost 4 LEDs on, which
indicates it's executed some instructions from ROM.

That in turn may indicate that the ROMs are corrupt.

From
http://gentiane.org/~miod/machineroom/machines/digital/vax/3100-30/bare_mobo.jpg
it looks as if the ROMs are a pair of M27C1024s.

Mouser doesn't have those, but they do carry AT27C1024 in two different
speeds.  Those look like they should work.  It looks like my ROM burner
will support that, with an additional, not horrifically expensive, adapter.

The machine is probably a ka42b CPU (I can check when I get home).  That in
turn suggests that the file simh/VAX/ka42b.bin (which is 256K, which is
nice, since that is two megabits) is probably the image I need.

So my major remaining question is: how are those chips laid out?  Since
they're 16 bits wide, I assume that what I really have is a 64kword memory
image...but is one the bottom 32kwords and one the top?  Or is one the left
16 bits of 64kwords, and the other the right 16 bits?  In short, how do I
slice the image from simh to put it into the replacement ROMs?

Adam


Re: analog computer - texas

2019-09-20 Thread John Herron via cctalk
Not bad. Ended up going for $215. I couldn't tell condition from pics but
hopefully someone enjoys and shows it off some time.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 4:04 AM Mark Linimon via cctech 
wrote:

> I'm local.  OTOH I have $ problems right now so I can't promise
> to go over there, pick up stuff, and pack and ship it for free.
>
> I do have a bid in on the biological sample cases.
>
> (OK, it's a joke, but I do have one in on a rack)
>
> mcl
>


Re: PBXes at home

2019-09-20 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk

5ESS?  Hmmm, you must have a pretty BIG home, no?


Not really, and most of the space is filled with arcade and pinball 
machines :-) But it is my understanding that a 5ESS could be widdled down 
to two racks. And it's not like I would keep it forever. Apparently the 
management platform that used to be a 3B2 runs on a Solaris machine in 
emulation now. So something like a Sun Netra T1 can take the place of the 
large computer. Only need enough line circuits to run say 32 or 64 analog 
loops and maybe some ISDN/T1?


I've had a tour of a 5ESS and it was QUITE big, like 50K square feet at 
least, not counting the battery room and the cross connect frames, or the 
Solar turbine generator.


True, but don't need rows of racks of modules that drive the subscriber 
loops.



Jon



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: Ethan O'Toole




Re: PBXes at home

2019-09-20 Thread Michael Thompson via cctalk
>
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 22:27:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Ethan O'Toole 
> Subject: PBXes at home
>
> A number of years ago I picked up a Lucent Merlin Legend system.
>
>   --
> : Ethan O'Toole
>

I have a little Merlin 410 PBX at home, with the Conference and Music on
Hold plug-in modules.

-- 
Michael Thompson


Re: Early Univac Commercial

2019-09-20 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
Yea, I recall having to take that test.  I almost didn’t because my degree is 
EE but then
they realized I was applying for SW positions.  Go figure!  ;-)

Worked there for 17+ years.

TTFN - Guy

> On Sep 20, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On 9/20/19 8:16 AM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:
>> Isn't there also one that's a "help wanted" for programming positions?
>> I seem to recall that they didn't say anything about professional training
>> or experience, just things like "do you have a logical, ordered way of
>> thinking?"
> 
> I don't recall, but IBM had a "computer aptitude test" that it
> administered to just about anyone involved in sales or the technical
> end, regardless of education.   I recall taking such a test, though I
> turned down IBM's job offer.
> 
> --Chuck
> 



Re: PBXes at home

2019-09-20 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
Switches like that usually are pretty scalable.

Purdue's SL-100 / DMS-100 that handled about 40,000 lines at its peak was
similarly sized, and spread across 4 facilities on campus. However, for
only a small number of lines, you could get away with maybe just a dozen
cabinets worth of stuff.

I guess that the fiber remote IPE cabinets would be good for hooking your
neighbors up. :)

Patrick Finnegan

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 12:12 Jon Elson via cctalk 
wrote:

>
> > On 9/19/19 7:27 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
> >> Where does one find a working 5ESS for home?
> >>
> >>
> 5ESS?  Hmmm, you must have a pretty BIG home, no?
> I've had a tour of a 5ESS and it was QUITE big, like 50K
> square feet at least, not counting the battery room and the
> cross connect frames, or the Solar turbine generator.
>
> Jon
>
>


Re: PBXes at home

2019-09-20 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk




On 9/19/19 7:27 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:

Where does one find a working 5ESS for home?



5ESS?  Hmmm, you must have a pretty BIG home, no?
I've had a tour of a 5ESS and it was QUITE big, like 50K 
square feet at least, not counting the battery room and the 
cross connect frames, or the Solar turbine generator.


Jon


Re: Early Univac Commercial

2019-09-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/20/19 8:16 AM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:
> Isn't there also one that's a "help wanted" for programming positions?
> I seem to recall that they didn't say anything about professional training
> or experience, just things like "do you have a logical, ordered way of
> thinking?"

I don't recall, but IBM had a "computer aptitude test" that it
administered to just about anyone involved in sales or the technical
end, regardless of education.   I recall taking such a test, though I
turned down IBM's job offer.

--Chuck



Re: analog computer - texas

2019-09-20 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
I'm local.  OTOH I have $ problems right now so I can't promise
to go over there, pick up stuff, and pack and ship it for free.

I do have a bid in on the biological sample cases.

(OK, it's a joke, but I do have one in on a rack)

mcl


RE: Early Univac Commercial

2019-09-20 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Isn't there also one that's a "help wanted" for programming positions?
I seem to recall that they didn't say anything about professional training
or experience, just things like "do you have a logical, ordered way of
thinking?"

Bill S.

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis 
via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:10 PM
To: Marvin Johnston via cctalk
Subject: Re: Early Univac Commercial

There are several Univac commercials in the archive.org video library.

I like the one that talks about he Univac "memory tank", which, it
really was.

The curious thing was that Remington Rand ran commercials not only for
UNIVAC computers, but also for shavers and typewriters.

--Chuck


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Re: KiCad pcb file

2019-09-20 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Paul,

Sure! Always good to have more contacts in industry.

Thanks,
Jonathan

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:57 PM Paul Anderson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I know someone out west who makes boards for DEC systems. If you want ,
> I'll look for his contact info this weekend.
>
> Paul
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 4:09 PM systems_glitch via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > We have to clean it up but we've got the pattern for a quad height
> > prototype board. I can share the outline and edge connectors once it's
> 100%
> > verified.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:54 PM David Bridgham via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 9/17/19 15:00, Ed Groenenberg via cctalk wrote:
> > > > Hello.
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for a PCB layout file / template of a 2 slot Unibus card,
> > > > which I want to use in KiCad.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone help me with this?
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's a KiCad template for a double-height QBUS card.  I haven't
> > > verified it or cleaned it up but it ought to make a good starting point
> > > and deleting the QBUS bits will be easy.  Eventually I'll need to do a
> > > quad-height Unibus card too.
> > >
> > > http://pdp10.froghouse.org/qsic/qbus-template.tar.gz
> > >
> > > If you're building your own DEC boards, this is the best dimensional
> > > diagram I've come across; I pulled it out of a uVAX manual.  The one
> bug
> > > I've found in it is the "1.00±.010" in the corner where the edge
> fingers
> > > start.  I think it's supposed to be "0.100±.010" but I'd double-check
> > > that against other diagrams or measure a real board.
> > >
> > > http://pdp10.froghouse.org/qsic/qbus-dimensions.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>