Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?

2019-11-02 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
heck just the empty  rack  with  drawer is  worth that - -Yes Guy I know about 
the anguish of half sets of rack  rails - we have that in Arizona also!   Ed#   
SMECC
In a message dated 11/2/2019 2:40:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

Well, it's sold. I hope someone here hought it, and will post some better pics 
and details.

If it had been near to me I'd have bought it instantly. A rack, a Tektronix XY 
display,
a rack drawer, blanking panels, some neat mysterious instruments, two 8" floppy 
drives,
and a probable PDP-something all for $45?
Bet the various items are on slide rails too. How rare is it to get both parts 
of
workable slide rails? Here in Oz, virtually unheard of. Separating slide halves 
and losing
one half seems to be a near universal syndrome with people who part out test 
equipment. 

Guy (Australia)


At 01:37 PM 2/11/2019 -0400, you wrote:
>Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches 
>that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.
>
>On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>> On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:
>>> Has anyone seen this?  It looks like an 18-bit machine.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
>> At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.  The CPU at the
>> bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
>> I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a 
>> custom logo.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>


Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?

2019-11-02 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
Well, it's sold. I hope someone here hought it, and will post some better pics 
and details.

If it had been near to me I'd have bought it instantly. A rack, a Tektronix XY 
display,
a rack drawer, blanking panels, some neat mysterious instruments, two 8" floppy 
drives,
and a probable PDP-something all for $45?
Bet the various items are on slide rails too. How rare is it to get both parts 
of
workable slide rails? Here in Oz, virtually unheard of. Separating slide halves 
and losing
one half seems to be a near universal syndrome with people who part out test 
equipment. 

Guy (Australia)


At 01:37 PM 2/11/2019 -0400, you wrote:
>Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches 
>that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.
>
>On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>> On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:
>>> Has anyone seen this?  It looks like an 18-bit machine.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
>> At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.  The CPU at the 
>> bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
>> I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a 
>> custom logo.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>


Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?

2019-11-02 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches 
that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.


On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:

On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:

Has anyone seen this?  It looks like an 18-bit machine.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.  The CPU at the 
bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a 
custom logo.


Jon



RE: getting your data from yahoo

2019-11-02 Thread Ali via cctalk


> I also asked for and got one of these files.  Mine took something like
> 30
> hours, and gave me a 584 MB .zip file.  I tried it using a Windows 10
> machine, and it consists of directories, each with the name of a group
> I'm
> subscribed to.  Opening each directory, there are one or more .zip
> files
> in it; for example, files.zip, links.zip, and messages.zip are in one
> I'm
> looking at now.  files.zip contains the files without further
> complication, with their directory structure from Yahoo maintained.
> links.zip contains .url files.  messages.zip contains files of the
> format
> 1959542.mbox.1, 1959542.mbox.2, 1959542.mbox.3, etc.  These
> seem to be 10 MB (uncompressed) chunks of the concatenated messages, in
> plaintext format as email messages.  I haven't tried feeding them to
> something like Pine, but it would appear to be compatible.  Email
> addresses appear to be intact, with the exception of one group I looked
> at
> with messages back into 1999 (perhaps they started on egroups or
> something).  The one thing that does not appear to be there is photos,
> unless they were stored as "files."
> 
> Overall, it's exactly what I would have hoped to get, with the
> exception
> of the photos.


I had the same experience, although mine was much smaller (only one group,
not very active and not with many files). Overall very painless. 

-All



Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?

2019-11-02 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:

Has anyone seen this?  It looks like an 18-bit machine.

  


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.  The 
CPU at the bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 
clone) with a custom logo.


Jon



RE: getting your data from yahoo

2019-11-02 Thread Richard Schauer via cctalk

On Sat, 2 Nov 2019, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote:

What tool do I use to look at the contents of this verschlagener file?


I also asked for and got one of these files.  Mine took something like 30 
hours, and gave me a 584 MB .zip file.  I tried it using a Windows 10 
machine, and it consists of directories, each with the name of a group I'm 
subscribed to.  Opening each directory, there are one or more .zip files 
in it; for example, files.zip, links.zip, and messages.zip are in one I'm 
looking at now.  files.zip contains the files without further 
complication, with their directory structure from Yahoo maintained. 
links.zip contains .url files.  messages.zip contains files of the format 
1959542.mbox.1, 1959542.mbox.2, 1959542.mbox.3, etc.  These 
seem to be 10 MB (uncompressed) chunks of the concatenated messages, in 
plaintext format as email messages.  I haven't tried feeding them to 
something like Pine, but it would appear to be compatible.  Email 
addresses appear to be intact, with the exception of one group I looked at 
with messages back into 1999 (perhaps they started on egroups or 
something).  The one thing that does not appear to be there is photos, 
unless they were stored as "files."


Overall, it's exactly what I would have hoped to get, with the exception 
of the photos.


Richard Schauer


RE: getting your data from yahoo

2019-11-02 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
OK, Yahoo took more than 24 hours, but finally handed me a link to download my 
e-mail.

It's a 462MB .archive file.  zcat tells me that it's multipart, and only 
unloads the first part (which contains about 10 messages as .eml files).

What tool do I use to look at the contents of this verschlagener file?

Thanks,
Rich


Rich Alderson
Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Computers: Museum + Labs
2245 1st Ave S
Seattle, WA 98134


http://www.LivingComputers.org/




Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?

2019-11-02 Thread cctalk--- via cctalk
Has anyone seen this?  It looks like an 18-bit machine.

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/

 

--Bill

 

 

 



Re: Best email to reach a human at the centre for computing history (computinghistory.org.uk)

2019-11-02 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
I also responded off line. They did scan a doc for me in the recent past.
Marc

> On Nov 2, 2019, at 9:04 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> I will answer Al offline
> 
> Dave
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Al Kossow via
>> cctalk
>> Sent: 01 November 2019 22:36
>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
>> Subject: Best email to reach a human at the centre for computing history
>> (computinghistory.org.uk)
>> 
>> I've tried several times to email them, and never received a reply.
>> Could someone send me an email adr for a human who might be able to
>> answer if they could scan something which is in their catalog but isn't 
>> available
>> on line there?
> 
>