Re: Soldering DB connectors

2020-11-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/11/20 2:19 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
> I've not had issues just soldering the wires on. I'll admit I do use leaded 
> solder.
> Dwight

Also, tinning each wire lead before soldering to the connector helps.
Truth be told, I prefer crimp pins.

--Chuck


Re: Soldering DB connectors

2020-11-11 Thread dwight via cctalk
I've not had issues just soldering the wires on. I'll admit I do use leaded 
solder.
Dwight


From: cctalk  on behalf of Fred Cisin via cctalk 

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 1:02 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
Subject: Re: Soldering DB connectors

On Tue, 10 Nov 2020, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> Nice tip, but I thought that most folks knew about the
> matching-connector thing!  I guess unwritten knowledge gets lost over
> the years.

. . . such as turning a bolt backwards a little to find the start of
thread?
. . . or attaching some plastics with cyano-acrylate AND running a
soldering iron over the glued joint
. . . using a large vise as a crude substitute for a press, using sockets
as drifts for pressing round objects, . . .
(all of which I have seen in the last few years as "fresh tips")


Half a century ago, a soldering work station included a lot of mating
connectors and a padded vise.  Has the use of a vise been forgotten, also?
SOME learned the hard way that using connecctors of current hardware to
hold ones being soldered carried some risk.

If you compare "Woodwright's Shop" with "New Yankee Workshop",
even significance of grain is being gradually eroded and ignored.


Written knowledge doesn't get preserved, either.  "The internet is written
in sand".
"Standard procedure" in library stack culling is to remove any book thata
hadn't been checked out in a set period of time.  A decade ago, when I was
re-assigned as one of the college's librarians, I implemented an added
step of those books being on a set of shelves to facilitate looking them
over and over-riding as needed.  (K and Knuth were slated for discard!)


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred


Re: Soldering DB connectors

2020-11-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Tue, 10 Nov 2020, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

Nice tip, but I thought that most folks knew about the
matching-connector thing!  I guess unwritten knowledge gets lost over
the years.


. . . such as turning a bolt backwards a little to find the start of 
thread?
. . . or attaching some plastics with cyano-acrylate AND running a 
soldering iron over the glued joint
. . . using a large vise as a crude substitute for a press, using sockets 
as drifts for pressing round objects, . . . 
(all of which I have seen in the last few years as "fresh tips")



Half a century ago, a soldering work station included a lot of mating 
connectors and a padded vise.  Has the use of a vise been forgotten, also?
SOME learned the hard way that using connecctors of current hardware to 
hold ones being soldered carried some risk.


If you compare "Woodwright's Shop" with "New Yankee Workshop", 
even significance of grain is being gradually eroded and ignored.



Written knowledge doesn't get preserved, either.  "The internet is written 
in sand".
"Standard procedure" in library stack culling is to remove any book thata 
hadn't been checked out in a set period of time.  A decade ago, when I was 
re-assigned as one of the college's librarians, I implemented an added 
step of those books being on a set of shelves to facilitate looking them 
over and over-riding as needed.  (K and Knuth were slated for discard!)



--
Grumpy Ol' Fred


Re: Soldering DB connectors

2020-11-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/10/20 9:25 PM, Mike Stein via cctech wrote:
> Same here. Also works for soldering header pins etc.; stick a matching
> connector on the other side of the board and they stay flush and
> perpendicular.

Nice tip, but I thought that most folks knew about the
matching-connector thing!  I guess unwritten knowledge gets lost over
the years.

--Chuck


Re: Soldering DB connectors

2020-11-11 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Same here. Also works for soldering header pins etc.; stick a matching
connector on the other side of the board and they stay flush and
perpendicular.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:43 PM Ethan Dicks via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 1:47 PM Richard Milward via cctalk
>  wrote:
> > Something that's always worked for me: when soldering a male DB
> > connector (DB9, DB25, whatever -- or really any male/pin style
> > connector), plug it into a mating female connector first. That will hold
> > the pins securely in place and prevent them from sagging in the plastic
> > of the body if your soldering iron is too hot or you hold it on too long.
>
> Yep.  Been doing it that way for a lot of years.  Good tip!
>
> -ethan
>


Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 19:27, Angel M Alganza via cctalk
 wrote:

> Most of them, yes.  Then there is K-9 mail for Android,
> which almost makes me to not miss Mutt, when using the phone.

Which is what I proposed in the first reply, complete with links.

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Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Ali via cctalk
On November 11, 2020 8:42:09 AM PST, Todd Goodman via cctalk 
 wrote:
>On 11/11/2020 11:23 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote:
>>> If you want to write/reply to old-style plain-text email from a
>>> fondleslab, then use K9Mail. It is the only mobile client I know of
>>> that can handle bottom-posting, trimming quotes etc.
>>
>> Well K9 is getting a number of recs here so I will take a second look
>at it. I looked at it initially but then saw it hadn't been updated
>since 2018. However, looks like there is active working going on and a
>new version is slated for release sure (BETAs are available for
>evaluation).
>>
>> -Ali
>
>FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing with a 
>large number of folders and emails in folders.
>
>I switched to Blue mail and it's worked well
>
>Todd

Ok. So as far as top posting goes it is a bit confusing. When you reply, and 
are composing your message, the original message is shown below the reply area. 
However, when the reply is sent the original message is on top of the reply.

In any case this is not the behavior I wanted. I would like to see the message 
quoted on top and then be able to inline edit the quoted text to reply to 
specific portion of the email. Is there an option to set this? 

I will try Blue Mail next. Thanks.

-Ali
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


Re: Microvax 3100 VMS 7.3 password reset.

2020-11-11 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk



> On Nov 11, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Lee via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Where are you living you can find such nice kit please ?

No kidding, I’m doing my best not to add to my Classic Computer collection, and 
I’d add a system like that in a heart-beat (I’ve actually thought seriously 
about getting one like that).

> Indeed. Backing that up is definitely a good idea.

I’m reminded of a MicroVAX III that I got 20+ years ago, I booted it, found it 
was running VAX/VMS 4.4.  Powered down, hooked up a TK50 drive to back it up, 
and the drive wouldn’t come back up (RD53).

Zane





RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Ali via cctalk
> 
> FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing with a
> large number of folders and emails in folders.
> 
> I switched to Blue mail and it's worked well


Funny you say this; I just finished setting up K9 for my CCtalk email as a test 
case. Your message was the first one to arrive I hit reply all and the program 
crashed on me. A second attempt allows me to reply but it is quoting the 
original mail below my reply even though I have the option set for the quote to 
be on top.

So far not impressed but I am using the latest BETA so I am going to switch to 
the last stable release from 2018 and see if it works any better.

-Ali



Re: Microvax 3100 VMS 7.3 password reset.

2020-11-11 Thread Kevin Lee via cctalk
Where are you living you can find such nice kit please ?

On Nov 11, 2020 4:06 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk  
wrote:
On 11/11/2020 14:17, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote:
> And as HP are no longer issuing hobbyist licences you might want to export 
> the licence data base
>

Indeed. Backing that up is definitely a good idea.


Also worth noting that this is a uVAX 3100-96, which is a nice catch.
Over 30 VUPs (compared to 2.4 VUPs for the original uVAX 3100).

No issues (afaik) with OpenVMS booting off disks greater than 1GB and it
will take up to 128MB of memory.

Nice and clean too (as is the VT520).


Antonio


--
Antonio Carlini
anto...@acarlini.com



Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Todd Goodman via cctalk

On 11/11/2020 11:23 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote:

If you want to write/reply to old-style plain-text email from a
fondleslab, then use K9Mail. It is the only mobile client I know of
that can handle bottom-posting, trimming quotes etc.


Well K9 is getting a number of recs here so I will take a second look at it. I 
looked at it initially but then saw it hadn't been updated since 2018. However, 
looks like there is active working going on and a new version is slated for 
release sure (BETAs are available for evaluation).

-Ali


FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing with a 
large number of folders and emails in folders.


I switched to Blue mail and it's worked well

Todd



RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Ali via cctalk


> If you want to write/reply to old-style plain-text email from a
> fondleslab, then use K9Mail. It is the only mobile client I know of
> that can handle bottom-posting, trimming quotes etc.


Well K9 is getting a number of recs here so I will take a second look at it. I 
looked at it initially but then saw it hadn't been updated since 2018. However, 
looks like there is active working going on and a new version is slated for 
release sure (BETAs are available for evaluation).

-Ali



Re: Microvax 3100 VMS 7.3 password reset.

2020-11-11 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk

On 11/11/2020 14:17, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote:

And as HP are no longer issuing hobbyist licences you might want to export the 
licence data base



Indeed. Backing that up is definitely a good idea.


Also worth noting that this is a uVAX 3100-96, which is a nice catch. 
Over 30 VUPs (compared to 2.4 VUPs for the original uVAX 3100).


No issues (afaik) with OpenVMS booting off disks greater than 1GB and it 
will take up to 128MB of memory.


Nice and clean too (as is the VT520).


Antonio


--
Antonio Carlini
anto...@acarlini.com



RE: Microvax 3100 VMS 7.3 password reset.

2020-11-11 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
And as HP are no longer issuing hobbyist licences you might want to export the 
licence data base

Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Nigel Johnson
> via cctalk
> Sent: 11 November 2020 14:15
> To: devin davison via cctalk 
> Subject: Re: Microvax 3100 VMS 7.3 password reset.
> 
> Try this:
> 
> http://h30266.www3.hpe.com/odl/vax/opsys/vmsos73/vmsos73/6017/6017
> pro_009.html#emerg_startup_uaf
> 
> 
> Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the
> origin of the open-source concept!
> Skype:  TILBURY2591 nw.john...@ieee.org
> 
> 
> 
> On 2020-11-11 9:11 a.m., devin davison via cctalk wrote:
> > I picked up a microvax 3100 this past weekend from a office that was
> > shutting down.
> >
> > I was able to start the system up, it boots up to a login prompt for
> > VMS VAX 7.3.
> >
> > I do not have any login info for this machine, is there a procedure i
> > can follow to reset a password to an account?
> >
> >
> >
> > Image of system :
> >
> > https://i.postimg.cc/43bG0nSx/2020-090018.jpg



Re: Microvax 3100 VMS 7.3 password reset.

2020-11-11 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Try this:

http://h30266.www3.hpe.com/odl/vax/opsys/vmsos73/vmsos73/6017/6017pro_009.html#emerg_startup_uaf


Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
Skype:  TILBURY2591 nw.john...@ieee.org



On 2020-11-11 9:11 a.m., devin davison via cctalk wrote:
> I picked up a microvax 3100 this past weekend from a office that was
> shutting down.
>
> I was able to start the system up, it boots up to a login prompt for VMS
> VAX 7.3.
>
> I do not have any login info for this machine, is there a procedure i can
> follow to reset a password to an account?
>
>
>
> Image of system :
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/43bG0nSx/2020-090018.jpg


Microvax 3100 VMS 7.3 password reset.

2020-11-11 Thread devin davison via cctalk
I picked up a microvax 3100 this past weekend from a office that was
shutting down.

I was able to start the system up, it boots up to a login prompt for VMS
VAX 7.3.

I do not have any login info for this machine, is there a procedure i can
follow to reset a password to an account?



Image of system :

https://i.postimg.cc/43bG0nSx/2020-090018.jpg