Re: OT: Newsreader for Windows
Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Apr 1, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 4/1/21 12:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote: Did USENET news readers exist for IBM Mainframes? I don't know. Spending time reading Usenet (sometimes of questionable value) on a system that frequently charged for access seems counterproductive to me. Considering my original USENET access was at $6 per hour, I’m not entirely sure I agree. :-) Then again that’s also why we used to be able to download and upload messages for offline reading. Zane My USENET reading in the late 80's and early 90's was crucial to my development as a numerical scientist, way before there were other venues. At the time, one would "download" packages from NETLIB by sending an email with the right commands to the NETLIB mail server and would receive an email with pure-ascii-encoded files... additionally to the comp.sources* hyerarchy... and I recall that many of the people in this list posted back then. carlos.
Re: OT: Newsreader for Windows
> On Apr 1, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 4/1/21 12:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote: >> Did USENET news readers exist for IBM Mainframes? > > I don't know. > > Spending time reading Usenet (sometimes of questionable value) on a system > that frequently charged for access seems counterproductive to me. Considering my original USENET access was at $6 per hour, I’m not entirely sure I agree. :-) Then again that’s also why we used to be able to download and upload messages for offline reading. Zane
Re: OT: Newsreader for Windows
On 4/1/21 12:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote: Did USENET news readers exist for IBM Mainframes? I don't know. Spending time reading Usenet (sometimes of questionable value) on a system that frequently charged for access seems counterproductive to me. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
RE: Newsreader for Windows
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt via > cctalk > Sent: 01 April 2021 18:36 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: OT: Newsreader for Windows > > I am hesitant to post this because I don't want to start a massive debate, but > what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows? > I use Thunderbird. It seems pretty competent once you have configured the tool bars. There is OE Classic which I havn't tried. https://www.oeclassic.com/ but it seems like it might be usable... > I don't want to use Google Groups because it wants me to sign in to Google. > I am generally reluctant to use a browser based reader because it will want to > track me. So I am after an installable client. > Worse than that, its not a great news reader. It doesn't carry some news groups because they have been spammed, usually via google groups. > > Thanks > > Rob Dave W
Re: OT: Newsreader for Windows
> On Apr 1, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > - Gravity (S.G. is updating it at GRC; https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm) > - Thunderbird (I use this on Linux) > - Xnews (I think?) Sadly “Xnews" for Windows hasn’t been updated in 15 years, it was pretty good when I was using it for a short while. It’s old enough now that it’s ontopic for this list, if you use the lists original definition of “classic”, which was more than 10 years old. I like “Unison” on the Mac side, but it’s another one that hasn’t seen an update in years. On UNIX, I’ve been using “tin" for nearly 30 years. At this point, I wouldn’t recommend trying to read USENET on OpenVMS, there are a couple readers, but they’re even older than “Xnews”. I’m not sure what’s currently available for AmigaOS, TOS, RiscOS, or Haiku (BeOS). Did USENET news readers exist for IBM Mainframes? Zane
Re: OT: Newsreader for Windows
On 4/1/21 11:36 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows? I run Linux, so I don't have first hand experience with news readers on Windows. But I do know that people use the following: - Gravity (S.G. is updating it at GRC; https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm) - Thunderbird (I use this on Linux) - Xnews (I think?) I know that there are a lot more GUI options on Windows than there are on Linux. There is probably also the option of using the TUI news readers in / via Windows Services for Linux (?is that the proper name for /today/?). -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: Any Interpress fans out there?
> From: Al Kossow > Dover was not an Interpress printer Yeah, it used Press format. BTW, here: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/unix/s2/press.c is the program from our V6 Unix machine to produce PRESS format files for the MIT Dover. (.v was the format for the Varian printer, a poor man's XGP, but which had finer resolution; our copy of troff had been hacked to produce .v format output.) Noel
Re: OT: Newsreader for Windows
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I am hesitant to post this because I don't want to start a massive debate, but what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows? Rob, you might want to give Xananews a shot. https://github.com/graemeg/xananews g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
RE: Newsreader for Windows
> > I don't want to use Google Groups because it wants me to sign in to > Google. > I am generally reluctant to use a browser based reader because it will > want > to track me. So I am after an installable client. Back in the day I used Forte Agent. It is still in development. -Ali
OT: Newsreader for Windows
I am hesitant to post this because I don't want to start a massive debate, but what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows? I don't want to use Google Groups because it wants me to sign in to Google. I am generally reluctant to use a browser based reader because it will want to track me. So I am after an installable client. Thanks Rob
Re: IBM cpu tear down
Welp, there went an hour of billable time... =D -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 12:56 AM D. Resor via cctalk wrote: > I thought I had seen this before... > > EEVblog teardown of a ES9000 processor. > > https://youtu.be/xQ3oJlt4GrI > > Don Resor > N6KAW > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Kevin Lee via > cctalk > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 9:15 PM > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: IBM cpu tear down > > https://www.righto.com/2021/03/logic-chip-teardown-from-vintage-ibm.html > > Enjoy. > >
RE: Any Interpress fans out there?
I did not say it was The Dover was a SLOT (Scanned Laser Output Terminal) using the EARS protocol (Ethernet, Alto, Research character generator, Scanned laser output terminal). The Dover Laser Printer however was used with the Xerox Alto. Was the 9700 the first Xerox Interpress Laser printer, I don't know. Don Resor -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Al Kossow via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:53 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Any Interpress fans out there? On 3/31/21 10:37 PM, John Q Clueless via cctalk wrote: > Here is the Dover Dover was not an Interpress printer
